DoChenRollingBearing
Yellow Jacket
I am almost ashamed that I do not even know certain basic facts about actual gold that is claimed to be owned by governments and central banks! I finally have access to a very knowledgeable community, and we can get all these basics straightened out NOW!
1) Our central bank, the Federal Reserve owns gold worth some $11 billion (valued at $42.22 / oz). It is on their balance sheet! You can see it week in Barron's in their "Market Laboratory" section, probably at barrons.com as well. Valued at $1600, that total value would be some $416 billion. My estimate is that the Fed owns approx. 260,000,000 oz.
-- Where is that gold? Is it ALL there in the vault in NYC?
-- Does that include gold owned by the Germans and the Dutch (should not...)?
-- Some commercial banks evidently own the Fed. So who OWNS that gold?
2) I keep seeing (or THINK I am seeing) that we have 8000 tons (tonnes?) at Ft. Knox, Denver and West Point (maybe some in San Francisco as well). I calculate that at roughly 200,000,000 oz worth some $320 billion.
-- Is that 8000 tons 90% pure (gold coin melt after 1933's confiscation)?
-- Is that gold SEPARATE from the Fed's gold (I would presume so)?
3) What about Europe? I read at FOFOA (maybe I will send these questions to him as well) that members of the Eurozone had to chip in something like 15% of each nation's gold to join (and so I believe THAT gold (the 15%) would be owned by the European Central Bank (ECB)). But, probably ALL of the national Eurozone members have THEIR OWN gold as well.
-- Where is the gold owned by the ECB? Is that "15%" really owned by the ECB?
4) What about gold at the Bank of International Settlements (the BIS, owned by many of the Western central banks)? I know they have gold there.
-- How much do they have?
-- Who owns it (I think I read that the BIS moves title ownership around when there are central banks buy & sell it)?
-- Is the gold is located in/near Basel (BIS location)?
5) Same questions with the IMF, there are some 100 - 200 tonnes that they "own" or have borrowed, much of it from the USA.
-- Where is that gold and who really "owns" it?
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Getting answers to much of the above would greatly enhance my understanding of gold, so thanks in advance for any answers!
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1) Our central bank, the Federal Reserve owns gold worth some $11 billion (valued at $42.22 / oz). It is on their balance sheet! You can see it week in Barron's in their "Market Laboratory" section, probably at barrons.com as well. Valued at $1600, that total value would be some $416 billion. My estimate is that the Fed owns approx. 260,000,000 oz.
-- Where is that gold? Is it ALL there in the vault in NYC?
-- Does that include gold owned by the Germans and the Dutch (should not...)?
-- Some commercial banks evidently own the Fed. So who OWNS that gold?
2) I keep seeing (or THINK I am seeing) that we have 8000 tons (tonnes?) at Ft. Knox, Denver and West Point (maybe some in San Francisco as well). I calculate that at roughly 200,000,000 oz worth some $320 billion.
-- Is that 8000 tons 90% pure (gold coin melt after 1933's confiscation)?
-- Is that gold SEPARATE from the Fed's gold (I would presume so)?
3) What about Europe? I read at FOFOA (maybe I will send these questions to him as well) that members of the Eurozone had to chip in something like 15% of each nation's gold to join (and so I believe THAT gold (the 15%) would be owned by the European Central Bank (ECB)). But, probably ALL of the national Eurozone members have THEIR OWN gold as well.
-- Where is the gold owned by the ECB? Is that "15%" really owned by the ECB?
4) What about gold at the Bank of International Settlements (the BIS, owned by many of the Western central banks)? I know they have gold there.
-- How much do they have?
-- Who owns it (I think I read that the BIS moves title ownership around when there are central banks buy & sell it)?
-- Is the gold is located in/near Basel (BIS location)?
5) Same questions with the IMF, there are some 100 - 200 tonnes that they "own" or have borrowed, much of it from the USA.
-- Where is that gold and who really "owns" it?
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Getting answers to much of the above would greatly enhance my understanding of gold, so thanks in advance for any answers!
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