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Old 11-08-2012, 05:51 PM   #1
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Ron Paul: Election shows U.S. 'far gone'

Rep. Ron Paul, whose maverick presidential bids shook the GOP, said in the wake of this week's elections that the country has already veered over the fiscal cliff and he sees no chance of righting ship in a country where too many people are dependent on government.

"We're so far gone. We're over the cliff," the Texas Republican told Bloomberg Television's "In the Loop" program. "We cannot get enough people in Congress in the next 5-10 years who will do wise things." The video can be seen at http://www.bloomberg.com/video/ron-p...XZL9Tvxkw.html.

Mr. Paul, who is retiring after 12 terms in the House, said voters on Tuesday rejected Mitt Romney because he had opposed the government bailout of General Motors and Chrysler.

"The people in the Midwest voted against him: 'Oh, we have to be taken care of!' So that vote was sort of like what we are laughing at in Greece," Mr. Paul said.

"People do not want anything cut," he said. "They want all the bailouts to come. They want the Fed to keep printing the money. And they don't believe that we've gone off the cliff or are close to going off the cliff. They think we can patch it over, that we can somehow come up with some magic solution. But you can't have a budgetary solution if you don't change what the role of government should be. As long as you think we have to police the world and run this welfare state, all we are going to argue about is who will get the loot."

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Old 11-08-2012, 10:05 PM   #2
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I'm a bit divided in my feelings on Dr. Paul.

He is head and shoulders above any of the current crop of politicians for sure.

In fact, the difference between Dr. Paul and all the rest is that Ron Paul is a statesman - the rest are simply politicians.

A statesman puts his country first. A politician puts his party first.

But I wonder if he would have gone a lot further if he had a bit more "fire in his belly". He at times seemed almost too gentlemanly for the game.

Having said that, I do admire the man greatly.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:48 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Jetstream View Post:
I'm a bit divided in my feelings on Dr. Paul.

He is head and shoulders above any of the current crop of politicians for sure.

In fact, the difference between Dr. Paul and all the rest is that Ron Paul is a statesman - the rest are simply politicians.

A statesman puts his country first. A politician puts his party first.

But I wonder if he would have gone a lot further if he had a bit more "fire in his belly". He at times seemed almost too gentlemanly for the game.

Having said that, I do admire the man greatly.
Hi Jetstream,

Ron Paul is a rare breed in this country. The Republicans treated him and his Delegates like crap during this Presidential run. The Republicans got their just reward, an embarrassing loss to a spend and tax socialist that trashes the Constitution, runs up trillion $$ losses, is anti-2nd Amendment and lies through his teeth...


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Old 11-09-2012, 01:00 AM   #4
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As usual, Paul is on the mark.

I've heard a lot of people describe him as not being charismatic. Maybe I get excited merely by the content of his speeches, but I've never found him to be boring. I've found him to be quite engaging at some of his rallies when he gets riled up, but that would never make the news cycle.
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The man did not want to be president. He ran because his friends pushed him to do so. It's a rare quality in a politician not to be driven by ego or a desire for power.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:05 AM   #6
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He is so right. I remember during one of the recent budget crisis, there was some old geezer in congress (republican I think) saying we absolutely could not cut funding to his country poetry foundation or something. And I thought to myself: we're doomed. We should be cutting huge programs like the department of energy and the department of education, and they can't even cut a retarded poetry foundation.
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Ron Paul has something most others in Congress do not; Morals, Values, Ethics and a deep personal love for America as a Republic. He is steadfast in his support of the Constitution and would fight to teh death any attempt to subvert it. Unfortunately for us, the Libertarian Party has been marginalized by a sycophantic liberal 'media' [such that it is media anyway] leaving them to hang in the wind to twist.

I fully believe that had Romney acknowledged Ron Paul at the convention and acknowledged his supporters, he may just have thrown his weight behind him. As it was, they refused to allow him to speak, stole his delegates and in the process, disenfranchised a qualified shitload of voters, to include me. I voted for Gary Johnson, not because I believed he could win, rather I voted for him in hopes that he would garner enough votes to allow Libertarians to be recognized as a viable group in the next election, if there is one that is.

Ron Paul is a very rare bird indeed, and unfortunately, the lamestream media has decided to label us all as wingnuts and extremists, instead of patriots.

Fuck 'em and feed 'em fish heads I say.
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Now that DOE isn't just the dept of nukes, we might find a use for them, assuming we could get them structured efficiently. We really do have energy issues to solve. And some can't/won't really be done by the monopolies we call the private energy business. They want a too-fast ROI to try anything much new. Science is one of the few things the government does that benefits anyone-everyone. Most of the rest is crap and utter waste.
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Originally Posted by PMBug View Post:
The man did not want to be president. He ran because his friends pushed him to do so(..)
And this is PRECISELY why he should have been elected - people, who don't want to "be" the president, but ones who want to "do" something important!

Unfortunately, politics is full of the first kind, not the second.
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Originally Posted by DCFusor View Post:
Now that DOE isn't just the dept of nukes, we might find a use for them, assuming we could get them structured efficiently. We really do have energy issues to solve. And some can't/won't really be done by the monopolies we call the private energy business. They want a too-fast ROI to try anything much new. Science is one of the few things the government does that benefits anyone-everyone. Most of the rest is crap and utter waste.
The stated goal of the DOE was to reduce energy costs. The opposite has happened since its inception. Ax it.
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