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Old 01-16-2015, 10:49 AM   #21
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yep.. they are basically telling Europe to go to hell. If they want their gas, they need to secure transit.
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Old 01-13-2016, 07:19 AM   #22
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tl;dr: November last year Russian Energy Ministry announced test-trading of a new Russian oil benchmark (futures contract traded on Russian exchanges pricing oil in rubles and no longer in US dollars).

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...price-monopoly
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:53 AM   #23
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Russian President Vladimir Putin is on the verge of realizing a decade-old dream: Russian oil priced in Russia.

The nation’s largest commodity exchange, whose chairman is Putin ally Igor Sechin, is courting international oil traders to join its emerging futures market. The goal is to increase revenue from Urals crude by disconnecting the price-setting mechanism from the world’s most-used Brent oil benchmark. Another aim is to move away from quoting petroleum in U.S. dollars.
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To attract traders, the Bank of Russia is preparing legislative amendments to grant non-Russian firms access to exchange-traded commodities and their derivatives, the financial industry regulator said in an e-mail. The bank will assist Spimex in starting futures to price oil for exports.

Russia’s largest oil companies, including Rosneft OJSC, Lukoil PJSC, and Gazprom Neft PJSC support the new futures and may become market makers, Spimex President Rybnikov said. He declined to name any trading firms outside of Russia, saying that the exchange has been in a dialogue with many market participants.
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Moscow is not alone in its push to change global oil pricing. China, which vies with the U.S. as the world’s biggest crude importer, has spent two decades trying to introduce its own oil futures contact, now expected this year. Iran and Venezuela, members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, have called for trading oil in other currencies than U.S. dollars.
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Old 05-04-2016, 03:21 AM   #24
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I struggle to keep up with where its all got to .....

Are any oil/gas producers actually selling their product in currencies other than US$ ?

and is there a non SWIFT transaction process that allows the process to NOT involve a conversion to US$ at some point ?


And if this is actually happening, why haven't they been invaded and had their gold stolen ?
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Old 05-04-2016, 07:35 AM   #25
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Originally Posted by rblong2us View Post:
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Are any oil/gas producers actually selling their product in currencies other than US$ ?
Iran for sure (thanks to US sanctions). Rickards claims in his new book that Russia (an oil exporting nation) is (or was) actually buying oil from Iran and then re-exporting it to China.

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and is there a non SWIFT transaction process that allows the process to NOT involve a conversion to US$ at some point ?
Well, they are in the process of building (at least) one. In the meantime, countries are just doing bilateral trade deals and FX swaps.

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And if this is actually happening, why haven't they been invaded and had their gold stolen ?
Most of the major players (Russia, China) have nukes.
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Old 05-05-2016, 04:29 PM   #26
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What stopped them doing bi lateral trades and FX swaps in the past ?

and why did they not invade Iran ?
Actually this still seems like a pivotal question ........

Something has changed.
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Old 05-07-2016, 04:13 PM   #27
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still in the future but getting closer, apparently

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...ops+to+zero%29
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