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Old 08-12-2019, 02:07 PM   #1
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Handheld ham radio law changing.

If you haven't heard the FCC is changing the laws, or maybe one could say tightening some policies towards the small handheld shortwave radios come Sept. 30th. This is mainly to target the cheap (affordable) handheld ham radios that have become very popular over the last 8 or 10 years. James Wesley Rawles even mentions this in his survival blog & advises to get a few before they're gone. Also, while you would need a license to broadcast on any of the ham or GMRS frequencies (unless an emergency), you can monitor without a license. Also due to the power they broadcast & the fact they have a detachable antenna, you technically can't broadcast on the FRS frequencies either (unless an emergency). However the likelihood of anything happening for doing so is remote at best. You can still monitor all of those frequencies legally & in case of emergencies, broadcast on any of them. Also for a GMRS license, there is no test to take, you just pay a fee, it's like $70 for 10 years iirc.
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I got one several years ago & just got a few more. They will no longer be able to advertise these radios, while they technically would still be able to sell them, they'd either have to change them all so they don't broadcast with the higher power settings on freq's that aren't supposed to broadcast that strongly and they'd have to get them tested & approved by the FCC, which would jack up the price of them. You can get some of the regular dual band 5watt models for around $25/ea & even a bit cheaper if you buy a pack of several. The tri-power (8, 5 & 1 watt) as well as the tri-band & digital models run a bit higher. Also if you are on a budget & want to get more than 1 or 2, hold off on buying any extra accessories & just get the radios as the accessories won't be affected by this, including spare batteries, antennas,etc.
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These are similar to the one I got several years ago, except mine isn't as rugged as these are supposed to be.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YMN0SCG

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FT3LJ77
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These are the pair (Tri-power) I just bought, you can get them with the smaller batteries for $7 less, but for an extra $3.50/battery to upgrade it to the bigger battery, is worth it IMO.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074Z63YFM
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I'll probably also get a tri-band. All the ones I have seen only have a max power of 5 watts, many experienced hams I've talked to say they'd rather have the extra power vs. the extra band, as with most things, couched with YMMV. ,There's a few I'm looking at, but this is one example.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VD7P3X5
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There is a great thread on another forum on how to program them. If your radio isn't one that came with the programming cable, I got this one for under $4 shipped! It has worked great.

https://www.amazon.com/SODIAL-Progra.../dp/B00SO2UUJW
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You can download a free program called "chirp" that makes programming a breeze.

https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects.../wiki/Download
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Here are a few extra pages you might find useful.

https://radiofreeq.wordpress.com/201...adio-channels/

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/

https://wiki.radioreference.com/inde..._channel_chart

https://oneguyoneblog.com/2018/02/25...g-uv-5r-chirp/
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This is a site you can buy spare parts, accessories, etc. Normally I used to say for how cheap you can get them, you'd be better off buying a new one & keeping the old one for spare parts if one broke, but as they might start becoming harder to find, it might be good to have a source for spare parts.

http://www.409shop.com/409shop_shopc...?&usercat=3693
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I don't know if I could post the link to that thread in another forum, but I guess if anyone is interested, I could PM it to them. He does a real good job of walking you through step by step of how to program it & some other tips etc. It's got most of the links I posted & some other useful stuff too. If you plan on getting one or more, you've got about 7 weeks from today. (Monday - 12 Aug. 2019)

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Old 08-13-2019, 07:38 AM   #2
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I've always been curious about ham radios, but never took the time to explore them. Thanks for posting this. It will take some reading (of your links) to unpack/digest this.
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:05 PM   #3
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Better add body armor to the list of things you might not be able to get soon.


Proposed Bill: FBI to Regulate Sale of Body Armor

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Government is good at overreacting to a crisis. If the Dayton, OH mass shooter guy hadn't been wearing body armor, that proposed bill would never have been brought forth. Restricting liberty and the ability of people to defend themselves isn't the answer though. Hopefully the bill dies on the vine.
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