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Old 09-18-2012, 10:28 AM   #1
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Did Romney just lose the election?

I just read an article wherein Romney purportedly made a statement that Obama supporters will vote for him because they are dependent on the government and that he will not even try to bring them over to the Republican side. The story [I'll look for a link] goes on to say that Romney appeared to be bashing on the poor, blacks, people on SSI retirement and disability, et. al.

The way the article was written makes Romney look very bad, so I wonder how long before democrats climb up on their high horses and denounce him for speaking the truth?
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:52 AM   #2
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Speaking truth has been known to ruin a politician. It's not what most want to hear.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:27 PM   #4
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I heard the quote last night. It does sound bad, coming from a presidential candidate, but he spoke the truth (IMHO).
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:33 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by ancona View Post:
I just read an article wherein Romney purportedly made a statement that Obama supporters will vote for him because they are dependent on the government and that he will not even try to bring them over to the Republican side. The story [I'll look for a link] goes on to say that Romney appeared to be bashing on the poor, blacks, people on SSI retirement and disability, et. al.

The way the article was written makes Romney look very bad, so I wonder how long before democrats climb up on their high horses and denounce him for speaking the truth?
Who cares, the difference played, is the bait for the weak minded.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:02 PM   #6
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Dr. Ron Paul spoke the Truth, and it has kept him from getting the republican nod 3 times. People dont like hearing the Truth.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:56 PM   #7
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I hope Romney loses because Romney is going to be the same as Obama on the fiscal issues. At least Obama is rational on the social issues.

Would it surprise you if a Mormon president would prosecute pornography?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/susannah...t-romney-porn/
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:02 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Shelby-villian View Post:
I hope Romney loses because Romney is going to be the same as Obama on the fiscal issues. At least Obama is rational on the social issues.

Would it surprise you if a Mormon president would prosecute pornography?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/susannah...t-romney-porn/
would it surprise you if Obama/Romney declared martial law or Nuked Iran? Or reinstated Bernanke? At least Obama sounds good in front of his teleprompter. He doesn't care about social issues.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:10 PM   #9
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Does it matter? Romney and Obama are the same.

Ron Paul or bust!
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:12 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Shelby-villian View Post:
At least Obama is rational on the social issues.
For example?
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:19 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by mike View Post:
For example?
I just gave you an example in the forbes article.

"In 2007, Romney swore that if he were elected president, he would put a porn filter on every computer."

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/gop1...y102007sp.html
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Originally Posted by Shelby-villian View Post:
I just gave you an example in the forbes article.

"In 2007, Romney swore that if he were elected president, he would put a porn filter on every computer."

http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/gop1...y102007sp.html
That shows that Romney is irrational. It doesn't show that Obama is rational.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:25 PM   #13
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wow, just saw this on another forum:

Osama bin Laden didn't just win.
He obliterated us. Forever.
Freedom is dead. By our own hand.

Nope, RP isn't gonna save us either. But he'll make people feel better for a little while.
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:34 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by mike View Post:
That shows that Romney is irrational. It doesn't show that Obama is rational.
Um, ok. Example: Sen. Orrin Hatch irate over Obama's pornography policy

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...cy.html?pg=all
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I really think you guys are ignorant if you don't think a Republican Mormon president would institute a more repressive, fundamental social policy.
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Old 09-19-2012, 02:37 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Shelby-villian View Post:
I really think you guys are ignorant if you don't think a Republican Mormon president would institute a more repressive, fundamental social policy.
I'm not sure if it would be more repressive, but undoubtedly it would be repressive. Whether you get shot in the head from the right side or the left, you're still dead. That's about all the difference I see of the types of repression from the 2 guys running for president.

About Romney losing the election, I have believed for a long time that reason they pushed for him to win the GOP nomination is because TPTB want Obama in for a second term (watch for gun laws to be changed), and they knew that if Ron Paul actually ran against B.O. he (Dr. Paul) had a very good chance of winning it all. That is why all the stops were pulled in order to keep RP out of the race.

Romney lost before he ever started. He is just another stool pigeon of the same banks and vested interests that gave money to Obama
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Old 09-19-2012, 03:51 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by Shelby-villian View Post:
I really think you guys are ignorant if you don't think a Republican Mormon president would institute a more repressive, fundamental social policy.
Romney and Obama will both continue the current suspension of habeas corpus and the NDAA act which allows the murder of American citizens without trail. Both will continue the war mongering and murder of innocent civilians in undeclared wars. Both will continue to destroy all of the rights guaranteed by the constitution. Both will rob you blind with inflation and ensure that you and all future generations will be debtor slaves to the bankster buddies that fund their campaigns.

What issues of "social policy", besides porn, do you think are more important than that?
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:51 AM   #18
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...why, porn, right to abortion, gay marriages and of course DRUGS, are the SOURCE (and not the EFFECT, not at all!) of all our troubles, worldwide - can there possibly be more important issues than these?

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I found this website to be informative:
http://www.isidewith.com/

It presents you with 50 political issues and lets you pick your best solution to those issues. It then matches your choice with the politician with the closests stances. It is an eye opener for some.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:36 AM   #20
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Originally Posted by bushi View Post:
...why, porn, right to abortion, gay marriages and of course DRUGS, are the SOURCE (and not the EFFECT, not at all!) of all our troubles, worldwide - can there possibly be more important issues than these?

/Sarcasm mode off

While one can be dragged into the mess- food on the table issues are paramount to me.
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