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Old 11-27-2018, 03:18 PM   #1
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Fla. WTF?

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You know this is just going to be a test bed for the gun grabbers. If they can pass this in a purple-ish state, they will have the model on how to get it passed in more states, then nationally. Even if it fails, but only just, they will try hammering out one just a bit more palatable to the middle of the road voters & then give it another go.

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Florida Ban on Military-Style Firearms and Disqualifications for Firearm Possession Initiative (2020)


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"The Florida Ban on Military-Style Firearms and Disqualifications for Firearm Possession Initiative (Initiative #18-03) may appear on the ballot in Florida as an initiated constitutional amendment on November 3, 2020.[1]

The measure would ban persons residing or entering the state from possessing military-style firearms. The measure would define military-style firearms as "any gun with a magazine capacity of more than seven rounds of ammunition or any weapon capable of firing in fully automatic mode, any weapon capable of being modified in any manner to fire in a fully automatic mode or any weapon classified as a sniper rifle."[1]

The measure would also prohibit persons from possessing any firearm if the person had (a) been convicted of a felony; (b) been convicted of three or more misdemeanors; (c) his or her driver's license revoked for driving under the influence, reckless driving, or excessive speeding; (d) been subject to two or more domestic abuse emergency calls or investigations; (e) been diagnosed by a medical professional as psychologically disturbed; or (f) made any substantiated threat of violence against another person.[1]

The measure would delete the existing language of Section 8(a) of Article I of the Florida Constitution, which provides people with the constitutional right to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves.[1]
Text of measure
Ballot title

The proposed title is as follows:[1]
“ Well Regulated Militia and Firearms - Stop the Killing[2] ”
Ballot summary

The proposed ballot summary was as follows:[1]
“ This Amendment recognizes the Florida National Guard and other organized police forces as the well-regulated militia of the State and authorizes them to keep and use military style weapons. Possession of military style weapons is prohibited except for the militia. Other persons convicted of various types of crimes or investigated for abuses are also prohibited from possessing guns or firearms.[2] ”
Constitutional changes

See also: Article I, Florida Constitution

The measure would amend Section 8(a) of Article I of the Florida Constitution. The following underlined text would be added and struck-through text would be deleted:[1]


(a) The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.

The people of Florida declare that a well-regulated militia is necessary for the security of the State and further designate the National Guard of the State of Florida and organized police forces as its militia. The Militia, while on active duty, while training or in their training facilities shall possess all types of weaponry and arms required to defend the State. The weapons shall include, but not limited to fully automatic weapons, assault weapons, large magazine weapons holding more than seven rounds of ammunition and magazines with capacity over seven rounds. No other person entering or residing in the State shall possess any weapon or firearm that functions like or has the capacity of a military style weapon. Military style weapon means any gun with a magazine capacity of more than seven rounds of ammunition or any weapon capable of firing in fully automatic mode, any weapon capable of being modified in any manner to fire in a fully automatic mode or any weapon classified as a sniper rifle. Any person other than the well-regulated militia who possesses such a gun or weapon, shall within one year of the enactment of this section surrender that gun or weapon to the local police or militia at which time that gun or weapon shall be destroyed. Possessing such a gun or weapon thereafter shall be a felony with punishment by up to one year in prison.

Further, to protect the population of the state no person shall possess a firearm of any kind if: 1) they have been convicted of a felony; 2) convicted of three or more misdemeanors; 3) had their drivers license suspended or revoked for driving under the influence, careless or reckless driving, or excessive speeding; 4) has been the subject of two or more domestic abuse emergency calls or investigations; 5) they are a person whose mental condition has been affirmed as temporarily or permanently psychologically disturbed by a person with a medical degree; 6) or if they are a person who has made any substantiated threat of violence against another person.

The provisions of this section are self-implementing and are immediately in effect upon adoption.[2]

Sponsors

Stop The Killing Committee is leading the campaign in support of the initiative.[1]"


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I think we all know that if Fla. should lose any rights, it's the right to vote, cause they can never seem to figure out how to operate a ballot, let alone count them.

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Old 11-28-2018, 08:31 AM   #2
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"... any weapon capable of being modified in any manner to fire in a fully automatic mode ..."

Well, I certainly lack the requisite knowledge of how to do so, but I'm pretty sure that just about every semi-auto firearm can be modified by someone with specialized knowledge and tools to fire in a full auto mode. Even without modifying the firearm, there are add-ons like bump stocks and bump triggers that can simulate full auto firing, so I guess this legislation would effectively criminalize possession of all semi-auto firearms.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:17 AM   #3
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If anything capable of making a semi-automatic simulate fully automatic is illegal, Jerry Miculek's trigger finger will be illegal. Hell, he even makes DA revolvers simulate fully automatic fire.

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Old 11-28-2018, 04:00 PM   #4
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The gun grabs & confiscation the prog/comm/soc's preach have nothing to do with saving lives. It's about total control of everything you do.
If you have guns, they can't lead you into the boxcars.

No dem's anymore only communists.
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