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Old 05-19-2013, 05:19 PM   #1
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Doodoo Massive silver crash to 20.2 (May 2011 redux)

Silver got smashed over 2 dollars at the opening and touched 20.2. Trading at 21 and change now.

That's a freaking 10 percent drop within minutes...



This usually means more trouble ahead tomorrow.
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:33 PM   #2
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Buying opportunity?
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:36 PM   #3
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It could go lower tomorrow during COMEX trading, but it's already trading below production cost.
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:44 PM   #4
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Guess things have really improved for us economically folks!

Sell your PM's NOW!

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Old 05-19-2013, 05:53 PM   #5
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If anyone will sell to you at this price...

I saw an article recently on ZH that showed when silver fell 25% the avg. price of a silver eagle only fell 8%. Now that as SA said it's below production cost doubt there'll be much for sale.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:01 PM   #6
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Silver inventories are still relatively high due to weak industrial demand (ie problems of the real economy, not the fake stock market). It might take a few months for silver shortages to become an issue.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:02 PM   #7
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That's the rub. The mark-up on coins is remarkably high. Perhaps it's time to buy raw metal and mint your own coins. Not sure exactly how one mints coins but I am sure somebody has a coin minting machine for sale on eBay by now.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:20 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Unbeatable View Post:
If anyone will sell to you at this price...

I saw an article recently on ZH that showed when silver fell 25% the avg. price of a silver eagle only fell 8%. Now that as SA said it's below production cost doubt there'll be much for sale.
If you don't mind buying larger coins APMEX claims their Australian Kilo Koala Coin (say that fast 10 times) are only $1.59 over spot. Kind of hard to fit in your pocket though.
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Old 05-19-2013, 06:24 PM   #9
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21.6 now up 1.4 from the lows... completely normal.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:50 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by Aubuy View Post:
If you don't mind buying larger coins APMEX claims their Australian Kilo Koala Coin (say that fast 10 times) are only $1.59 over spot. Kind of hard to fit in your pocket though.
It's not $1.59 over spot. It says: "Any quantity only $1.59 per oz over spot!" (cut and paste from APMEX site)

So with about 32 Toz in a kilo, you're looking at a premium of over $50.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:08 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by swissaustrian View Post:
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That's a freaking 10 percent drop within minutes...
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Only 10%? Good thing silver is one of the few items that the CME group does not have any limits on.

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CME Group U.S. equity index price limits (and corresponding CME and CBOT rules) are designed to coordinate with circuit breakers provisions as applied by the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE).

The 7%, 13%, and 20% price limits are applied to the futures fixing price (and are effective from 8:30 a.m. CT – 3:00 p.m. CT. Mondays through Fridays). The 5% up-and-down limits are effective from 5:00 p.m. - 8:30 a.m. CT Sundays through Thursdays, and from 3:00 p.m. - 4:15 p.m. CT Mondays through Fridays. Additionally, the 5% futures price down limit between 3:00 p.m. - 4:15 p.m. will not be allowed to breech the 20% daily limit.

The fixing price is the volume weighted average price, VWAP, calculated during the 30 seconds of trading from 2:59:30 p.m. – 3:00:00 p.m. CT. These fixing prices are published to the CME Group website; see the link provided in Resources below.

Where to Find Price Limits

Price limits currently in effect are located in the Hi/Lo Limit columns of the delayed quotes page for each product:
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http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equi...mit-guide.html

... silver's quotes page:

http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/meta...es_globex.html
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Old 05-20-2013, 08:46 AM   #12
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Something is up. There is no other logical explanation for shit like this. Either someone is de-leveraging in advance of some bad shit, or we are being massively set up for something. With physical demand off the chart, logic continues to be defied day in and day out.

Better get it while [if] you can.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:29 AM   #13
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Only 10%? Good thing silver is one of the few items that the CME group does not have any limits on.
They claim to have halted silver 4 times yesterday:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...id-flash-crash
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:31 AM   #14
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Meanwhile gold is trading green at 1360 up from overnight lows at 1337.
Silver is touching 21.8 up from 20.2
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Originally Posted by swissaustrian View Post:
They claim to have halted silver 4 times yesterday:
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Looks like they only halted buying.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:51 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by PMBug View Post:
Looks like they only halted buying.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-0...omment-3580116
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Old 05-20-2013, 10:21 AM   #17
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Now that's funny.

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Old 05-20-2013, 11:21 AM   #18
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Man, I decided to take a nap. I'm waking up to an all-in short squeeze.
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Old 05-20-2013, 12:21 PM   #19
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Yup....and now let the short covering begin!

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Old 05-20-2013, 12:54 PM   #20
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Buying opportunity?
Yep. Bought some at $21.40.

Was ready to pull the trigger at $21.10 but heard a crash from the kitchen, and had to console a crying baby girl. Kid > cheap silver.
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