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Old 11-05-2012, 06:47 AM   #1
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Liberty complain about your phone here!

The phone company is worried about $6 I owe them. I may even have to pay a late fee.

It better be only $6!! Bah
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:57 AM   #2
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The phone company is worried about $6 I owe them. I may even have to pay a late fee.

It better be only $6!! Bah
you have a phone? :O
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Old 11-05-2012, 09:33 AM   #3
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:30 AM   #4
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Yes- I have a landline- which is needed to have DSL.


I have the cheapest plan there is- which mean no features at all and every call is billed. There is a program called lifeline that issues a credit for those low income- usually the DSL runs me $19.99- and a separate bill for the landline- with the program is $7.47. For that amount I can make 3 calls a day- I figure. I use google voice for long distance- I could use it for local calls.. but most people have caller ID and want to see a local number. A few times I did run up a bill- tho it was still under $10. Some people seem to have to make 10-12 calls a day. I make 1-3 a day.

http://www.fcc.gov/lifeline

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Old 11-05-2012, 01:05 PM   #5
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penn, you can get dsl without a phone line now. they never seem to advertise it. i had to ask for it specifically. we wanted to get rid of our landline, because we never use it. its called dry loop dsl.
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:25 PM   #6
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I may do that here, I've got a predatory monopoply phone co. My internet (fastest they offer as DSL, 400kbyte down, 125 up) is billed at $14 a month. Limited everything else brings the cost to $80+ a month before I call long distance, or worse, the next town over (far closer). When I complained about 25c/minute to call 40 miles, they insisted they were't ripping me off - just charging the max inter-lata fee allowed by law. It's cheaper to call India or Alaska for crying out loud.

I may go whine, but in a good-old-boy town, what's likely to happen if I insist on internet only for say $20 - they'll call their relatives over at the courthouse and remind them I'm not paying as much PP taxes as I might, or something like that.

These things must be done delicately. (Yes, that's the OZ reference)

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Back in the day (way back, the early 70's) I cancelled some credit cards, enough of that crap. Well, I get a bill for like $1.20 from one. So I send them $1.20. They add a dime and say I owe them a dime, plus fees - about 35c. So I write them a check for 35c. Then...it kept on and on and on - this was right when they wanted membership fees on top of their already-ridiculous fees. I finally sent them another dollar. They refused the check, then added interest and fees to the 35c, and on and on and on. I told them to go screw, wipe my credit if they want - I didn't want credit, that was the entire point.

They did, I now have a "no credit rating at all". They never did get that last 35c though. Did you guys know that no credit rating is worse than a bad one if you do need credit? Found that one out too. I had to put up 50,000 worth of land as collateral to borrow 10k @ 6%. I prepaid. They didn't like that, so nothing still on the rating.

They offered to help me. Say I borrowed 10k, using my savings account there as collateral, and just paid the 6-7% for 3 years (minimum). Then I'd have a credit rating. I asked if I couldn't just give them the $6-700 (or even 3x that) right now and have the rating. No go. It's a racket. I refuse to participate in it anymore.
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:11 PM   #7
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Op- the dry loop is not available any more. They phazed it out.
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:31 PM   #8
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Op- the dry loop is not available any more. They phazed it out.
that sucks. what provider do you have? i have centurylink down around these parts.
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Old 11-05-2012, 07:09 PM   #9
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The phone company is worried about $6 I owe them. I may even have to pay a late fee.

It better be only $6!! Bah
May I suggest you try using smoke signals?

It's free and you could do your cooking at the same time.
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:47 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by DCFusor View Post:
I may do that here, I've got a predatory monopoply phone co. My internet (fastest they offer as DSL, 400kbyte down, 125 up) is billed at $14 a month. Limited everything else brings the cost to $80+ a month before I call long distance, or worse, the next town over (far closer). When I complained about 25c/minute to call 40 miles, they insisted they were't ripping me off - just charging the max inter-lata fee allowed by law. It's cheaper to call India or Alaska for crying out loud.

I may go whine, but in a good-old-boy town, what's likely to happen if I insist on internet only for say $20 - they'll call their relatives over at the courthouse and remind them I'm not paying as much PP taxes as I might, or something like that.

These things must be done delicately. (Yes, that's the OZ reference)

To add:
Back in the day (way back, the early 70's) I cancelled some credit cards, enough of that crap. Well, I get a bill for like $1.20 from one. So I send them $1.20. They add a dime and say I owe them a dime, plus fees - about 35c. So I write them a check for 35c. Then...it kept on and on and on - this was right when they wanted membership fees on top of their already-ridiculous fees. I finally sent them another dollar. They refused the check, then added interest and fees to the 35c, and on and on and on. I told them to go screw, wipe my credit if they want - I didn't want credit, that was the entire point.

They did, I now have a "no credit rating at all". They never did get that last 35c though. Did you guys know that no credit rating is worse than a bad one if you do need credit? Found that one out too. I had to put up 50,000 worth of land as collateral to borrow 10k @ 6%. I prepaid. They didn't like that, so nothing still on the rating.

They offered to help me. Say I borrowed 10k, using my savings account there as collateral, and just paid the 6-7% for 3 years (minimum). Then I'd have a credit rating. I asked if I couldn't just give them the $6-700 (or even 3x that) right now and have the rating. No go. It's a racket. I refuse to participate in it anymore.
DCF, I have a land line for DSL, (Verizon. 19.95 a month). Bing makes a lot of international calls (Philippines, Qatar, Saudi, etc.) so we use StarTec as our carrier, 3 cents a minute, anywhere in the world. However, they consider Marble Falls, 13 miles south of here, long distance, so one month when my 16 year olds girlfriend lived there I got a 60.00 long distance bill.

Solved that problem by saying I won't pay for any more phone bills; my 28 year old promptly put them all on his cell phone plan and everyone got a phone (except me). I think it costs him something like 200. a month.
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May I suggest you try using smoke signals?

It's free and you could do your cooking at the same time.
we tried carrier pigeons but the wife kept cooking them....
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:41 AM   #12
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Op verizon-

I could get cable- but you have to take the cable too- so it is more expensive
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I could be completely happy with internet-only and something like Skype or Magic Jack. It's only offered in theory here - I know one guy who managed to get it (and a static IP on top for a couple extra bucks - which you need if you want to run your own www server). He was a more persistent PITA than I am with nothing else to lose, though.
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