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If there was no real supply shortage in silver the price activity would not be climbing as it is currently. Many have called.for a pause around $67-$69. Wait for a dip to enter or add.

I need the miners to catch up. As soon as earnings start reporting for Q4 watch the explosion. I am up 50 points in my last purchase less than 10 days ago and that is not enough compared to total 2025 performance. GDXU is adding $10 to the base every week just before a shakeout dip and then a run.

Long GDXU, SILJ & PLG.
 
Ok, I don't trust that company all that much. We've all been around Silver and Mining quite a long time. Who here thinks $7 million is come anywhere close to starting / restarting up a mine?
If these are " mothballed " mines ? $7 million will probably cover the 1'st ( maybe 2'nd ) week of a 2 month restart program :$.02:
 

EMERGENCY: CFTC Meeting Thursday 9AM — They're Banning Silver Buying (You Have 72 Hours)​

December 16th, 2025, 6:43 PM EST. A notice appeared on the CFTC website that should terrify every silver holder: "Emergency Commission Meeting - December 19th, 9:00 AM - Closed Session. Topic: Market Stabilization Measures for Precious Metals Complex."

Translation: They're going to ban or restrict silver buying. You have 72 hours.

This is the 1980 Hunt Brothers playbook repeating word-for-word. In 1980, when the Hunts cornered the silver market and banks faced insolvency, the CFTC instituted "liquidation-only trading" - you could only SELL, not BUY. Silver crashed from $50 to $10 in six weeks.

They're about to do it again. Thursday morning, 9 AM. This time to save JP Morgan.

In this video I break down:
The CFTC notice: "Temporary trading restrictions, position limit modifications, enhanced margin requirements"
What each phrase means: Liquidation-only mode, forced selling, 100% margins
1980 Hunt Brothers case study: COMEX "Silver Rule 7" banned buying, crashed silver 80%
Why now: December 20th options expiration (40,000 contracts, 200M oz exposure)
The coordination: CFTC meeting 48 hours BEFORE options expire = save the banks
Six measures they'll announce: Liquidation-only, 100% margins, position limits, EFP suspension, trading halts, propaganda
Legal basis: Commodity Exchange Act Section 8(a)(9) emergency powers (no approval needed)
Thursday hour-by-hour: 9 AM meeting → 11 AM announcement → 11:30 AM crash begins
The great decoupling: COMEX crashes to $52, but London at $66, Shanghai at $72, physical at $80
Why COMEX becomes irrelevant: Miners won't deliver at $52 when Shanghai pays $72
Historical precedent: Every government intervention fails (1971 gold, 1933 confiscation, 2008 short ban)
72-hour action plan: What to do this weekend before restrictions hit
This is educational analysis only. I'm not a financial advisor. Always DYOR.

Why this matters RIGHT NOW:
CFTC meeting: Thursday December 19th, 9:00 AM Eastern (72 hours from now)
Closed session = no public, no media, decision already made
"Market stabilization" = government speak for "save the banks"
Options expiration: Friday December 20th, 4 PM (24 hours after CFTC announcement)
Timing is NOT coincidence: Crash silver Thursday → Options worthless Friday
1980 precedent: Same language, same playbook, same outcome (80% crash)
Hunt Brothers held 200M oz → CFTC banned buying → Bankruptcy
2025: Options represent 200M oz → CFTC banning buying → JP Morgan saved

What they'll likely announce Thursday 11 AM:
Liquidation-only mode for large speculators (can only sell, not buy)
Margin requirements raised from $10K to $50K per contract (100% margin)
Position limits reduced from 6,000 to 1,500 contracts (forced liquidation)
EFP (exchange for physical) suspended (trapped in paper, can't get metal)
Emergency halt powers granted to CME (can shut down trading anytime)
Media campaign: "Protecting retail investors from speculation bubble"

The great decoupling that happens next:
COMEX crashes because only selling allowed
London, Shanghai, physical markets continue trading
Price divergence: COMEX $52, Shanghai $72, Physical $80
Miners stop delivering to COMEX (why sell at $52 when China pays $72?)
COMEX inventory drains to zero, exchange becomes irrelevant

Your 72-hour window (December 16-19):
Saturday-Sunday: Buy physical silver from local dealers before inventory gone Monday morning: Last online orders before restrictions announced Tuesday: Premiums likely double, dealers may suspend sales Wednesday: Prepare for Thursday announcement Thursday 9 AM: CFTC meeting begins Thursday 11 AM: Restrictions announced, crash begins Friday 4 PM: Options expire worthless (banks saved)

This is not speculation. The CFTC notice is public. The meeting is scheduled. The 1980 precedent is documented history.

When government calls "emergency meeting" for "market stabilization," they mean: "Banks are losing, we're changing rules."

If you want hourly updates through Thursday's announcement, subscribe and turn on notifications — I'll track this in real-time and document every move they make.

 

EMERGENCY: CFTC Meeting Thursday 9AM — They're Banning Silver Buying (You Have 72 Hours)​

December 16th, 2025, 6:43 PM EST. A notice appeared on the CFTC website that should terrify every silver holder: "Emergency Commission Meeting - December 19th, 9:00 AM - Closed Session. Topic: Market Stabilization Measures for Precious Metals Complex."

Translation: They're going to ban or restrict silver buying. You have 72 hours.

This is the 1980 Hunt Brothers playbook repeating word-for-word. In 1980, when the Hunts cornered the silver market and banks faced insolvency, the CFTC instituted "liquidation-only trading" - you could only SELL, not BUY. Silver crashed from $50 to $10 in six weeks.

They're about to do it again. Thursday morning, 9 AM. This time to save JP Morgan.

In this video I break down:
The CFTC notice: "Temporary trading restrictions, position limit modifications, enhanced margin requirements"
What each phrase means: Liquidation-only mode, forced selling, 100% margins
1980 Hunt Brothers case study: COMEX "Silver Rule 7" banned buying, crashed silver 80%
Why now: December 20th options expiration (40,000 contracts, 200M oz exposure)
The coordination: CFTC meeting 48 hours BEFORE options expire = save the banks
Six measures they'll announce: Liquidation-only, 100% margins, position limits, EFP suspension, trading halts, propaganda
Legal basis: Commodity Exchange Act Section 8(a)(9) emergency powers (no approval needed)
Thursday hour-by-hour: 9 AM meeting → 11 AM announcement → 11:30 AM crash begins
The great decoupling: COMEX crashes to $52, but London at $66, Shanghai at $72, physical at $80
Why COMEX becomes irrelevant: Miners won't deliver at $52 when Shanghai pays $72
Historical precedent: Every government intervention fails (1971 gold, 1933 confiscation, 2008 short ban)
72-hour action plan: What to do this weekend before restrictions hit
This is educational analysis only. I'm not a financial advisor. Always DYOR.

Why this matters RIGHT NOW:
CFTC meeting: Thursday December 19th, 9:00 AM Eastern (72 hours from now)
Closed session = no public, no media, decision already made
"Market stabilization" = government speak for "save the banks"
Options expiration: Friday December 20th, 4 PM (24 hours after CFTC announcement)
Timing is NOT coincidence: Crash silver Thursday → Options worthless Friday
1980 precedent: Same language, same playbook, same outcome (80% crash)
Hunt Brothers held 200M oz → CFTC banned buying → Bankruptcy
2025: Options represent 200M oz → CFTC banning buying → JP Morgan saved

What they'll likely announce Thursday 11 AM:
Liquidation-only mode for large speculators (can only sell, not buy)
Margin requirements raised from $10K to $50K per contract (100% margin)
Position limits reduced from 6,000 to 1,500 contracts (forced liquidation)
EFP (exchange for physical) suspended (trapped in paper, can't get metal)
Emergency halt powers granted to CME (can shut down trading anytime)
Media campaign: "Protecting retail investors from speculation bubble"

The great decoupling that happens next:
COMEX crashes because only selling allowed
London, Shanghai, physical markets continue trading
Price divergence: COMEX $52, Shanghai $72, Physical $80
Miners stop delivering to COMEX (why sell at $52 when China pays $72?)
COMEX inventory drains to zero, exchange becomes irrelevant

Your 72-hour window (December 16-19):
Saturday-Sunday: Buy physical silver from local dealers before inventory gone Monday morning: Last online orders before restrictions announced Tuesday: Premiums likely double, dealers may suspend sales Wednesday: Prepare for Thursday announcement Thursday 9 AM: CFTC meeting begins Thursday 11 AM: Restrictions announced, crash begins Friday 4 PM: Options expire worthless (banks saved)

This is not speculation. The CFTC notice is public. The meeting is scheduled. The 1980 precedent is documented history.

When government calls "emergency meeting" for "market stabilization," they mean: "Banks are losing, we're changing rules."

If you want hourly updates through Thursday's announcement, subscribe and turn on notifications — I'll track this in real-time and document every move they make.


AI Slop 🤮 some plausibility weaved thru with factual errors.

Comments is nearly all his own Bots patting himself on the back :lmao:

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AI Slop 🤮 some plausibility weaved thru with factual errors.
Yeah, that was already pointed out by PMBug...

Thanks for clarifying... and pointing out what's already been pointed out...

Maybe try posting something intelligent we can all learn from instead of sniping from the cheap seats?
 
For all the doubters...





2.7%? Fed target is 2%. Thats hardly a win. At roughly 40% higher than the target. To be honest, Americans need some deflation rn to offset the massive inflation of when the civid money hit. Only adding a little under 3% now isn't helping much.

In 2020 a good rib eye was 8 or 9 bucks. Now 22-25. Only adding 3% to the 22-25 number isn't going to give anyone much relief.
 
In 2020 a good rib eye was 8 or 9 bucks. Now 22-25. Only adding 3% to the 22-25 number isn't going to give anyone much relief.
Yeah, I remember waiting for ribeye to go on sale for $7 so I could have a treat once or twice a year. Then it went to $12, then $15, and now it's $20. A couple years ago, I bought one for my birthday present, and it was $12 ? and not very good. Damn. Brisket smoked for 12 hours would have been better, but even brisket is way high. Hell, any beef cut seems to start at six bucks. My most recent buy of 80/20 ground mystery beef was four and a half. When I was younger, our target price was one dollar.

My supply of silver rounds is not unlimited, but maybe I should calm my nerves by comparing seven pounds of beef per ounce then versus ten pounds today. Or I can compare what four silver quarters would buy of gasoline then and what 7/10 ounce would buy today. I think that would be 3 gallons then and 16 gallons today. It looks like gasoline is the real bargain compared to beef.

Pork used to go on sale for $1.30 for the cheap cuts and just today $2 for the boneless loin. That is not as bad as the beef prices, and actually not too bad for boneless pork. But I miss the sales on the "butt" portion with less bone and easier to cut good chops.
 
2.7%? Fed target is 2%. Thats hardly a win. At roughly 40% higher than the target. To be honest, Americans need some deflation rn to offset the massive inflation of when the civid money hit. Only adding a little under 3% now isn't helping much.

In 2020 a good rib eye was 8 or 9 bucks. Now 22-25. Only adding 3% to the 22-25 number isn't going to give anyone much relief.
2.7% is a total :poop: BULLSHIT Narrative that they are trying to sell to the Public :unsure:

Why aren't TAX increases include in the CPLie ? It's a transaction that is part of the economy.

If u look elsewhere ( Shadow Stats is 1 ) at private assessments/calculations of the true CPI, it's nowhere near the GOV 💩 CPLie 😞

The amount of :poop: SHIT that the GOV :devilish: is piling on the Public to keep this Fiat Ponzi Scheme going a bit longer, is Fucking Unbelievable :flushed:

😞 Sadly we are lacking in Legitimate Alternatives 😞

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"... panic dump any silver ETFs they might have with some outrageous and unverified claims."


interesting sleuthing out what, or who may be pushing a narrative... means they're pulling out all the stops!

Are we on the cusp of a world financial meltdown?
 
All of the average Joe's I talk with agree. AI is a total waste. Perhaps there would be some benefit to science but as we are seeing, fake accounts pasting fake info is what's going mainstream. I really have no use or need for more fake crap on the internet. If I wanted to listen to lies I could just listen to our politicians.

When invidia CEO was on Rogan he said something like 95% of info on the net would be AI generated in the next few years. Seems like a great way to kill the internet to be honest. I have no desire to parse through gazillions of videos or articles that are probably fake. Turn the internet off and go back to talking with real people.
 
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