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This AI Slop is being put out to drive a Narrative. Others are seeing this crap for what it is - Narrative driven Garbage

Someone is putting Time/Effort/Money into this because SILVER is now in Runaway Mode & someone is trying to put the Brakes on this Runaway There is a motive behind this

Suppressing the price of Silver for so long is now erupting in CONSEQUENCES !


Structural Supply Deficits now & into the Short to Medium term : think I'll be Holding my Stack
 
Its still a reserved high. I liken it to my favorite sports team. As they say you take enough shots to the nether regions you kinda brace every time for a kick to the junk.
 
My guess is gold goes down next week creating a buying opportunity. Silver might see 70 by EOY. Just a guess.
 
AI Asian guy (AIAg) videos seem like a spam marketing campaign.

I did a quick search on YT for the new AI videos. I found 9 channels that all started publishing the AIAg videos within the last 1-2 weeks. I'm sure there are more, but that's what I found with one quick search.

2 of the 9 channels were older ones that started with AI voice over videos 2 months ago before switching to AIAg videos within the last 2 weeks.

2 other of the 9 channels were created years ago but only started posting videos within the last 2 weeks.

The other 5 channels were all created within the last 2 weeks.

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Economy Reframed (7/30/21) - 15 vids starting 2 weeks ago
Bullion Watch (12/10/25) - 7 vids starting 1 week ago
War and Mystery (12/13/25) - 15 vids starting 1 week ago
Revealed Stories (5/10/17) - 10 vids starting 2 weeks ago
Financial Revelations (5/30/25) - 131 vids starting 2 months ago - AIAg started 2 days ago
Next Level Finance (12/14/25) - 11 vids starting 1 week ago
Financial Wealth Warning (12/11/25) - 14 vids starting 1 week ago
Finance Disclosure (12/5/25) - 13 videos starting 1 week ago
Boring Currency (10/4/25) - 49 videos starting 2 months ago (similar to Financial Revelations) - AIAg started 2 weeks ago

 
Cigarlover said:
Pretty sure this one is not AI. Making a good argument with facts and charts to back it up. 200-500 AG and 8k AU.

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Who is buying is money from the EU.

Armstrong has said folks are leaving the EU before capital controls are enacted there.

War is on the horizon and historically capital moves before war starts.

The prettiest ugly girl on the corner (safest) is the US economy.
 
nickndfl said:
I sold the rest of my miners to buyback lower in the channel. DYODD.
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Been out of mine for a minute now waiting for the pullback. They came down a little and are now back to about where I sold them. Still waiting.

I have noticed the big players are catching a bid. Mid tier and jr's not so much. I also don't follow 100's of companies. Just a few on my radar. Based on what I can see from my small followings, it looks like this move is just getting started in the miners and that appears to be the sentiment but some of the influencers out there as well. Lots of money to be made going forward in the mining sector.
I'd be interested if someone starts a thread on miners. Maybe with all 3 tiers so we can all follow along and gauge where sentiment is at overall.
 

Europe is Becoming a Country Risk for International Capital – Sell Now?​

Posted Dec 22, 2025 by Martin Armstrong​

EU Country Risk-F​

This is a free report we are providing to everyone for Christmas. The movement of gold from London and Switzerland is part of a major capital flight from Europe all because of their illegal seizure of Russian Assets that include about $50 billion of private Russians and businesses including Russian investments in European shares. The threats that is China assisted Russia in the war that they too could be sanctioned. Assets are fleeing Europe and this report provides also the history of how they froze assets of even Neutral Countries like Sweden, Switzerland, and Portugal because they might be doing business with Germany.

HISTORY REPEATS BECAUSE HUMAN NATURE NEVER CHANGES​

 
Clive is on top of it...

Silver. Something just broke. Shanghai spot silver is at $73, a $3.50 premium to the western price​

Silver Prices Surge as Market Volatility ContinuesSilver markets are experiencing a significant surge. The price on COMEX jumped from $65 to $68 overnight, and the momentum didn’t stop there. In Shanghai, the spot price for silver has soared to an impressive $73, creating a notable $3.50 gap compared to the COMEX near-dated future of $69.50. This unusual market activity suggests a scramble for physical silver, with some dealers already reporting they have sold out.
 
Must mean Chinese dealers have sold out? Plenty of inventory here in the US. In fact SD is now selling 100 oz bars at spot for 3 or more. Unfortunately they are also dropping their buyback price. It was -3.25 a couple weeks ago, now -5.75
 
Looks like a platinum credit card with soon return to its position ahead of the more pedestrian gold card.
 
He isn't always right. In fact he's been wrong about silver levels for awhile now but one of these days he will be right.

 
Cigarlover said:
Must mean Chinese dealers have sold out? Plenty of inventory here in the US. In fact SD is now selling 100 oz bars at spot for 3 or more. Unfortunately they are also dropping their buyback price. It was -3.25 a couple weeks ago, now -5.75
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China quit exporting is what Clive said...
 
Don't expect normality

This Is No Normal Silver Bull Market | Michael Oliver​

Michael Oliver argues that silver has broken out of a multi-decade range and entered a “new reality,” with the potential to rise rapidly to $200 or higher within a few quarters. He bases this on momentum and relative-performance breakouts of silver versus gold and precious metals versus the S&P 500, signaling a major shift away from equities. Oliver believes gold is also in a powerful long-term move that could ultimately reach $8,000 if it repeats historical logarithmic patterns. He downplays fears of stock-market downturns hurting silver, noting that correlations are inconsistent and that monetary metals often rise independently during early equity declines. Overall, he views the current environment as the early stage of a broader fiat-currency and debt crisis that strongly favors gold and especially silver.

INTERVIEW TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
1:30 Silver update
13:32 Stock market downturn
18:41 Platinum update
21:50 Gold update
27:50 Weekly specials
 
chieftain said:
On what is Armstrong basing his claim of European collapse?
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What I've gleaned from listening is the EU has unelected rulers over Europe who don't care what the people want. They're importing immigrants and putting them on the dole. They also are priming the people for war.

Germany's energy costs have gone through the roof. VW is closing down factories - 800 jobs lost. The 'Green Party' is in control and they've dismantled nuclear power and hung their hat on solar and wind. Blowing up Nordstream has consequences. Germany is also ramping up their military.

France thinks they can beat Russia.

England is enacting censorship laws and jailing citizens for online hate speech.

Armstrong covers more of the details in his videos. Too much to list, but the gist is Europe needs war.
 
Another post from Dr. K:
 
Jeez, I knew the level of retard in Germany w.r.t energy was high and rising, but this is an order of magnitude worse.

I wonder if the Frogs are keeping their nuclear plants going or if they too have capitulated...
 
So yeah... the EU is either in a depression, or they're looking over the cliff at it....
 
Gold and silver both down a bit from yesterday's close in overnight trading in China. Gold maintains a slight discount to LBMA spot.

Silver drops from the mesosphere back to the stratosphere - maintaining a large (~$5.5/ozt) premium over LBMA spot and SFE (futures) remains slightly in backwardation to the SGE (spot). The SFE silver vault reports a large outflow as might be expected from the backwardation. The numbers are saying that China wants immediate delivery physical silver.

 
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