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We Found That More Than 170 U.S. Citizens Have Been Held by Immigration Agents. They’ve Been Kicked, Dragged and Detained for Days.​

  • Americans Detained: The government doesn’t track how many citizens are held by immigration agents. We found more than 170 cases this year where citizens were detained at raids and protests.
  • Held Incommunicado: More than 20 citizens have reported being held for over a day without being able to call their loved ones or a lawyer. In some cases their families couldn’t find them.
  • Cases Wilted: Agents have arrested about 130 Americans, including a dozen elected officials, for allegedly interfering with or assaulting officers, yet those cases were often dropped.
When the Supreme Court recently allowed immigration agents in the Los Angeles area to take race into consideration during sweeps, Justice Brett Kavanaugh said that citizens shouldn’t be concerned.

“If the officers learn that the individual they stopped is a U.S. citizen or otherwise lawfully in the United States,” Kavanaugh wrote, “they promptly let the individual go.”

But that is far from the reality many citizens have experienced. Americans have been dragged, tackled, beaten, tased and shot by immigration agents. They’ve had their necks kneeled on. They’ve been held outside in the rain while in their underwear. At least three citizens were pregnant when agents detained them. One of those women had already had the door of her home blown off while Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem watched.

About two dozen Americans have said they were held for more than a day without being able to phone lawyers or loved ones.

More:

More Than 170 U.S. Citizens Have Been Held by Immigration Agents. They’ve Been Kicked, Dragged and Detained for Days.

The government does not track how often immigration agents grab citizens. So ProPublica did. Our tally — almost certainly incomplete — includes people who were held for days without a lawyer. And nearly 20 children, two of whom have cancer.
www.propublica.org
 


Meh. I don't seem to recall that much whining and crying when the FBI broke down Roger Stone's door and made his wife and children stand in the rain in their pajamas so that CNN would get good ratings that evening. I'm pretty sure they are all US citizens too.

Compare that with how Bolton is being treated.
 
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Fired Justice Department lawyer blows the whistle on what he describes as abuses of power at the DOJ​

Oct 19, 2025 #news #politics
Former Justice Department lawyer Erez Reuveni speaks out about the disregard of due process and for the rule of law that he says he witnessed in his final weeks at the Department of Justice.

13:11
 

LIVE: Trump’s ICE Caught DELETING EVIDENCE in BOMBSHELL COURT DOCS?!​

Streamed live 14 hours ago
This week on the breakdown, Allison shares court documents showing the government may be deleting evidence, plus updates on Trump’s weaponization of justice, and more restraining orders against the feds.

29:11
 
The Atlantic

ICE’s ‘Athletically Allergic’ Recruits​

President Donald Trump’s plan to double the size of the ICE workforce has met a foe more powerful than any activist group. It is decimating new recruits at the agency’s training academy in Georgia. It is the ICE personal-fitness test.

More than a third have failed so far, four officials told me, impeding the agency’s plan to hire, train, and deploy 10,000 deportation officers by January. To pass, recruits must do 15 push-ups and 32 sit-ups, and run 1.5 miles in 14 minutes.

“It’s pathetic,” one career ICE official told me, adding that before now, a typical class of 40 recruits had only a couple of candidates fail, because the screening process was more rigorous.

The academy’s standards have already been eased to boost recruitment, he said, and the new parameters “should be the minimum for any officer.” He and others, none of whom were authorized to speak with reporters, told me that agency veterans are concerned about the quality of the new recruits being fast-tracked onto the street to meet Trump’s hiring goals.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-s-athletically-allergic-recruits/ar-AA1OQuzS?ocid=socialshare
 
searcher said:
More than a third have failed so far, four officials told me, impeding the agency’s plan to hire, train, and deploy 10,000 deportation officers by January. To pass, recruits must do 15 push-ups and 32 sit-ups, and run 1.5 miles in 14 minutes.
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I have never been an athlete. But when I was young, the push-ups and sit-ups were not a big deal. One and a half miles in 14 minutes is six miles an hour. That is faster than my four mile an hour walking speed. But I am older. Maybe I could sprint a bit and meet their 6 mph rule. Maybe not.

So maybe I would not qualify under their physical minimum rules. But why is this important or necessary for new agents? Is pursuit up to 1.4 miles part of the job? Or are push-ups or sit-ups needed to handle and process illegal immigrants?
 
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So maybe I would not qualify under their physical minimum rules. But why is this important or necessary for new agents? Is pursuit up to 1.4 miles part of the job? Or are push-ups or sit-ups needed to handle and process illegal immigrants?
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I don't know much about ICE but they are a law enforcement agency. And every law enforcement agency I know about all have certain physical fitness requirements, especially for new recruits.

Examples:

Philadelphia (click on the links)

Physical Fitness Test & Requirements

INSTRUCTIONS AVAILABLE IN BELOW LINKS

The physical fitness test confirms that prospective police recruits are performing physically (based on their age and gender) at the 30th percentile. The test includes the 300-meter run, pushups (within 1 minute), sit-ups (within 1 minute) and the 1.5-mile run. Read the latest physical fitness requirements as mandated by the Municipal Police Officers' Education and Training Commission and instructions on how to prepare for pushups. The Department has also prepared some basic guidelines on how to prepare for the physical fitness requirements.

New York City

NYPD Recruitment

nypdrecruit.com

PA State Police (pdf)


I don't think any of this is discriminatory. They just want cadets to be physically fit imo.
 
Well that's good.


It should be banned everywhere, because what he said is in fact true. They violate women's Rights.

Ventura argued that a woman “forced to wear a burqa” ceases to be “free and independent” and instead “becomes an object.” He accused the left of hypocrisy for defending women’s rights while “accepting a culture that oppresses them.”
 
Thought experiment: What if a major religion allows slavery and furthermore allows killing slaves for any reason.
Should this religion be allowed to exist? Or should it be extinguished?

If any religion is so foul, is it right to extinguish it? Do the adherents of the foul religion have rights to continue their atrocities?
 
In America, no it would not be allowed because involuntary servitude is illegal.


Also, you can't make a new religion that does this, as the government would not recognize it as a religion.
 

ICE Detains Blind Protester, Drops Him on His Head While He Sat Quietly Outside Facility — “They Picked Up the Weakest Person…”​

Amid continuous news of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)brutality, a disturbing video from Portland has sparked outrage nationwide. The video shows ICE agents violently arresting a blind protester during a peaceful demonstration against President Donald Trump’s immigration crackdown.

The footage quickly went viral, showing agents dropping the man on his head before dragging him away as onlookers shouted in horror.

The man in the video has been identified as Quinn Haberl. He is a visually impaired activist and only 4 feet 6 inches tall. He was wearing a bright neon vest and sitting quietly near a marked blue line outside a Portland ICE facility.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...e-weakest-person/ar-AA1P2Omn?ocid=socialshare
 

ICE Caught Storing Explosive and Chemical Weapons Amid Fears of Trump-Ordered Strike​

The federal buying spree is impossible to miss, and the questions it raises are even harder to ignore. Since January 20, 2025, ICE has spent roughly $71.5 million on small arms, ordnance, and related gear, a spike of about 700 percent compared with the same stretch in 2024, according to an analysis of federal procurement logs by Popular Information. The haul includes armor, rifles, ammunition, and entries labeled as chemical agents, along with line items tagged to “guided missile warheads and explosive components,” language that sent critics into full alarm.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...p-ordered-strike/ar-AA1P3XXB?ocid=socialshare
 
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They were also saying that when the problem was exponentially smaller.

We've had Decades of just letting more and more in. Now we have tens of millions of them here. They ALL need to get out.

All they do is drive up demand, and therefor prices, of housing, food and everything else.
 
Boy imagine the country we'd have if everyone just rolled up their windows and locked their doors when stopped by Police ?

Wouldn't that just be swell ? If that was the case then why not go around shooting at ICE agents, kidnapping woman and children, performing all kinds of heinous crimes, and then just locking your doors when/if stopped ? Were close to it right now. They stopped allowing car chases to go on for many serious crimes like car theft, burglary, even aggravated battery or warrants for gun crimes. It got to the point where I wouldn't even chase or call in for permission because I didn't want young kids down the way in a different squad chasing without permission.

The way the Democrats see it is they can hide crime in the make believe comstat so why risk a bad headline of a car crash from a police chase. After all its just another gangster doing gangster shit, just like now its illegals breaking Federal Law by being here illegally. These assclowns are even holding up the Fed payroll because they want to give free health care to illegals, and welfare, when we suckers called "citizens" have to wake up and go to work to pay for it.

I feel bad for our kids because THEY will wake up one day and see just how wrong they were. They will see how they are now working for phony money which has little real value and the American dream will be out of reach for all but the very rich. The loud mouths like Deniro standing on the street corner, half senile, telling them all what fools they are for not voting the way he tells them to and all the other monied influencers who sold America down the toilet while egging on all the foot soldiers from Mommies basement to shoot anyone who disagrees with them.

Or the worst. The Hysterical KAREN's screeching while the camera's are on. The white females frothing at the mouth and giving "crazy" new meaning. And so the govt. will keep printing dollars until we reach the point of no return, which we probably have reached already.
 
I like food


Overton@overton_newsNewsmax host @RobFinnertyUSA just said what no one in mainstream media will admit about SNAP.

He tore the mask off the entire food stamps program...and what he revealed will infuriate taxpayers.

It’s far worse than anyone realized.

“There are 42 million people in this country that need food stamps on a weekly basis.”

“And we’re saying ‘people’ deliberately instead of Americans because most of the people that are on food stamps aren’t even from this country.”

“45% of Afghanistan immigrants are on food stamps.”

“42% of Somali immigrants, 34% of every immigrant from Iraq, 23% of Haitians.”

“59% of ALL illegal aliens are collecting food stamps, meaning that most of the people getting food stamps from the U.S. Government and the U.S. Taxpayer are not even Americans.”

“Think about that.”

“And we didn’t know about any of this before the government shutdown started.”

“But thanks to Democrats, we can confirm tonight that millions of Joe Biden, illegal aliens, people who crossed the border when Joe was president, are now collecting food stamps from a program funded by hardworking American taxpayers.”
 
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