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Joe King said:
He totally deserved that. He was way too close and had been told to get back, but chose to lean in closer.
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Just some food for thought. As usual, take this, and any thing I post fwiw and dodd.

 
searcher said:
Just some food for thought. As usual, take this, and any thing I post fwiw and dodd.

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You know, there's an answer for all this.

That's for the States and locals to work with ICE and serve the warrants for them.
.....but they don't wanna do that, so into the neighborhoods ICE goes.
 
Joe King said:
That's for the States and locals to work with ICE and serve the warrants for them.
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From what I'm hearing, and as a lot of my posts show, ICE isn't serving warrants. In most of the cases I've viewed they are randomly attacking people for no reason, showing up in different places and parading around waving guns at people. Not cool at all. And the masks aren't helping either.

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There are different kinds of warrants. They had an arrest warrant, AND they knew the guy was in the house. That gives them the Right to enter. If they did not know that he was in there, they could not have entered.

They didn't bust in, the door was opened from inside.

Notice that the lady tried hiding him by telling them only little kids were in the house. They should have arrested her, too.
 
@searcher , my point was that they have prevented this had they been working with ICE all along, instead of doing his sanctuary city bull crap.
 
Joe King said:
@searcher , my point was that they have prevented this had they been working with ICE all along, instead of doing his sanctuary city bull crap.
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Gotta give you credit. You

- are a true believer and
- are loyal to your cause
- seem to investigate things thoroughly
- seem like someone who could be counted on in a pinch

 
searcher said:
Gotta give you credit. You

- are a true believer and
- are loyal to your cause
- seem to investigate things thoroughly
- seem like someone who could be counted on in a pinch

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THX, but my "cause" is simply to look at the situation rationally logically and in a manner consistent with how the laws and/or courts would see it.

Ie: the way everyone should be looking at it.

Anyone looking at this tragedy in Minnesota and trying to say that the officer involved was not justified in his actions, is simply not looking at the evidence in an objective manner.

The left and most of the media are trying to do the same thing in this case as they did in the Rittenhouse case.

Ie: portray it in a manner inconsistent to the actual facts of the matter, and do so purely due to political beliefs.
 
60 Minutes

Minneapolis' police chief fears possible "moment where it all explodes" as ICE operation continues​

Jan 18, 2026
Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara says he worries about escalating tensions amid ICE enforcement. But top ICE official Marcos Charles says his officers act "lawfully and with professionalism."

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If he fears a moment where it all explodes, it'll be his own fault if it does for having allowed people there to over react to ICE's 100% legal operations.


It's the people doing so-called "protesting" who are threatening to "explode", not ICE.
 

US citizen says ICE removed him from his home in his underwear without a warrant​

Jan 20, 2026 #minnesota #ice #news
Federal immigration agents have detained a U.S. citizen in Minnesota at gunpoint without a warrant. That's according to ChongLy “Scott” Thao, who says agents forced open his door, entered with guns drawn and led him outside in his underwear in freezing conditions.

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US citizen says ICE removed him from his Minnesota home in his underwear after warrantless search

Federal immigration agents have detained a U.S. citizen in Minnesota at gunpoint without a warrant. That's according to ChongLy “Scott” Thao, who says agents forced open his door, entered with guns drawn and led him outside in his underwear in freezing conditions.
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So what's the back story on this?

Or do you actually believe that ICE is just going up to random doors and busting them down just to see who is inside?


Why is this turmoil not happening in Texas? Or any other states, it seems?

Texas and Florida are the top two deportation states, yet not an ICE raid in sight.
Certainly nothing like the circus we see in Minneapolis due to re yards fighting it.

Why is that?

Last year ('24) Biden's ICE snatched up over 6500 illegal aliens in Minneapolis.

Where was the outrage then?

All ICE is doing, is going after illegal aliens who have been arrested for having committed crimes and other immigrants who committed crimes in their home nations, but then lied about it in order to get into our nation.

Or do you think we should let criminals (the previously convicted kind, not just the accused) to move to America?

Shouldn't we, at a minimum, restrict residency access to those without felony criminal convictions?

We're talking stuff like SA, robbery, murder, etc etc, not traffic tickets.
 
Joe King said:
Why is this turmoil not happening in Texas? Or any other states, it seems?
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This is a question I can't answer. I can assume it may be because T doesn't like some of the things Walz said about him while running for vice prez and wants exact vengeance upon Walz. But that's just an assumption.

Joe King said:
All ICE is doing, is going after illegal aliens who have been arrested for having committed crimes and other immigrants who committed crimes in their home nations, but then lied about it in order to get into our nation.
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The person in your quote was an American citizen, an old man in his underwear. If the ICE people were there for a legitimate reason why drag him out into the freezing cold in only his underwear and a pair of crocs, drive him around only to release him later (after they took his human dignity from him)?

If they were there for a legitimate reason why not knock on the door, explain why they were there and then let the man and / or his family produce the document they needed to verify what ever they needed to verify?

What they actually did was morally and legally wrong. It was an exercise in absolute power over a defenseless human being. Not right at all.
 
searcher said:
This is a question I can't answer. I can assume it may be because T doesn't like some of the things Walz said about him while running for vice prez and wants exact vengeance upon Walz. But that's just an assumption.
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I can assume most of these good news posts are because people don’t like what the president said about them. They are being contrary and obstinate.


Remember the witch hunt after January 6? Held without charges for years. People in Homer, AK forced out of home, ransacked snd then let free again. All because they “looked like” someone they were after. That wasn’t right either.
 
Joe King said:
Shouldn't we, at a minimum, restrict residency access to those without felony criminal convictions?

We're talking stuff like SA, robbery, murder, etc etc, not traffic tickets.
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What about driving under the influence of alcohol? Like canada?
 
searcher said:
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Ok, but now can you "Searcher" out the other side of the story?

You know, so we can get a full picture of what happened?


It seems kinda sus to me that the officer did not immediately ID as to who she was.

Especially when by her own words, as soon as she did, they left her alone.

When cops are off duty and other cops unknown to them start interacting with them, the first thing they do is to ID themselves AS a fellow officer. (it's a big club, and not all members know each other)


You are quick to present one sided stuff and expect everyone to just take it at face value.

You aren't biased in all this stuff, are you?
 
What about old Janet Reno? Shipped Elian Gonzalez back to Cuba.

 
Joe King said:
You are quick to present one sided stuff and expect everyone to just take it at face value.
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Don't expect any one to take any thing I post at face value. See my signature.

Joe King said:
You aren't biased in all this stuff, are you
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I can say the same thing about you. I lean one way, you lean the other.

Bit ot but his speech in Davos today should be interesting. I'll post it in the Greenland thread.

Edit to add: Joe, you and anyone else can post pro-ICE & pro-deportation stuff. Have at it bro. You post it, I'll read it.
 
I don't support what ICE is doing because of who is in office. I'm supporting them because they are doing what is right.

If Biden had them doing what they are doing, I would have supported it then, too.

What I was getting at in my response is that everything the left is presenting ICE doing wrong, leaves out critical details of the incident.

For example, you posted propaganda earlier purporting to show evidence of ICE randomly entering homes in a a search for illegals.

Nothing could have been further from the truth.

They were pursuing a known illegal who fled into a home. At that point, they are legally allowed to pursue to apprehend a fleeing person who is already subject to arrest.

The people inside the home were knowingly harboring a fugitive, at the point the vid stated.
.....but you'd have us use that crap to demand ICE be reigned in.

It's like the Goode shooting. I'm lookin' at it from the standpoint of what actually happened and how the law actually applies in that situation.
....and if it showed that the officer did something wrong, I'd be the first to say charge him.

The side you posted on it just wants her views as a victim no matter the actual circumstances or what the law says. You seem to just present the view of the anti-Trump side irregardless of the facts of the matter.

Like you want people to make up their minds based on incomplete data.

"Look! ICE is dragging someone outta their car! Oh, the humanity!"
....while totally ignoring the fact that they injected themselves directly into their official business and then act like they were just innocent bystanders that had no idea what was going on.
 

This is where you need to chime in.

Quote my post, then post something to disprove what I'd post. That's something I could respect. Hell, I'd even admit what I'd posted was wrong and apologize for posting it.

C'mon...........hep me out Joe.
 

US appeals court pauses lower court order restraining immigration agents' use of force against Minnesota protesters​

Jan 21 (Reuters) - The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals paused a lower court's order on Wednesday that had restrained federal immigration agents' use of force against peaceful protesters.

Some protesters against U.S. President Donald Trump's surges in immigration enforcement in the Minneapolis area sued his administration in December, saying their constitutional rights were being infringed.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/u...esota-protesters/ar-AA1UGh8J?ocid=socialshare
 

Man charged in ‘largest jewelry heist in U.S. history,’ avoids trial by getting deported​

  • A suspect in the largest jewelry heist in U.S. history was deported to Ecuador, halting his prosecution for the $100 million Brinks truck theft.
  • Federal prosecutors say they were unaware of the deportation and still want to prosecute, while the defendant’s attorney asked that the case be dismissed
  • The deportation raises questions about federal agency coordination, with most stolen merchandise still unrecovered and jewelers questioning whether it could have been prevented.
A man facing federal charges in what authorities have called the largest jewelry heist in U.S. history was deported to Ecuador late last month, bringing the case against him to a crashing halt, according to recent court filings.

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So that means when the idiots get in the way and try to interfere with them, they can start crackin' skulls now.
 
searcher said:
A man facing federal charges in what authorities have called the largest jewelry heist in U.S. history was deported to Ecuador late last month, bringing the case against him to a crashing halt, according to recent court filings.
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See — every cloud has a silver lining.
<grin>
 


Almost sounds like when they arrested Roger Stone.
 
Joe King said:
So that means when the idiots get in the way and try to interfere with them, they can start crackin' skulls now.
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Well, they just shot and killed an imbecile who brought a handgun to "protest" Federal Law Enforcement while they were doing their jobs.



The guy wanted to stop Federal agents from deporting criminals residing in this country illegally. Sounds insurrectiony to me. Guess he got the Ashli Babbitt treatment. After all, Capital Police already set the precedent on that.
 

Timeline: A Moment-by-Moment Look at the Shooting of Alex Pretti​

Federal agents shot and killed a 37-year-old Minneapolis resident, Alex Jeffrey Pretti, at about 9 a.m. Central time on Saturday morning. A video shared with The New York Times by a witness and her lawyer, as well as other video footage posted on social media, documents the violent scene, where agents appear to fire at least 10 shots in a span of five seconds.

The footage seems to contradict the Department of Homeland Security’s account of the encounter, which the agency said began after an individual armed with a handgun approached the federal agents with the intent to “massacre” them.

Read the entire article here:

Timeline: How the Shooting of Alex Jeffrey Pretti Unfolded

A moment-by-moment analysis of videos from the scene shows that Mr. Pretti was already restrained when shots were fired. The footage contradicts the federal government’s account of the fatal shooting.
www.nytimes.com
 
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