Border Security - Immigration

Welcome to the Precious Metals Bug Forums

Welcome to the PMBug forums - a watering hole for folks interested in gold, silver, precious metals, sound money, investing, market and economic news, central bank monetary policies, politics and more. You can visit the forum page to see the list of forum nodes (categories/rooms) for topics.

Why not register an account and join the discussions? When you register an account and log in, you may enjoy additional benefits including no Google ads, market data/charts, access to trade/barter with the community and much more. Registering an account is free - you have nothing to lose!

A network of NGOs, or non-governmental organizations, seems to be playing a powerful role in coordinating the large-scale invasion of illegals at the US southern border.

The new website Muckraker revealed a treasure trove of "mass migration blueprints," handed out by NGOs across South and Central America to illegals with details about their route to the US.
...
Click to expand...

"Mass Migration Blueprints" Reveal NGOs "Carefully Planned" US Migrant Invasion, Report Says | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com www.zerohedge.com

 

Doug Casey's Take [ep.#297] Destabilization of America​


***Note: Nothing to see, can listen in one tab, play around the forum in a different tab.

Dec 29, 2023

Discussing the Migrant Crisis: The Destabilization of America

In this conversation, Doug talks about the migrant crisis, its implications for America and the seemingly organized nature of movement of migrants from multiple parts of the world. Expanding on the numbers and reasons behind it, Doug reflects on the resulting social and economic issues and its potential long-term impacts on American society.

The speakers also delve into the role of NGOs and governmental bodies in migration and political scenarios, and ponder upon the future, drawing striking historical parallels. This discussion ends with an examination of international matters and an urgent call to address this pressing issue.


38:57

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
00:02 Overview of the Migrant Situation
00:34 The Reality of Border Reporting and Migrant Numbers
01:47 The Consequences of Mass Migration
02:24 The Role of Government and Property Rights in Migration
03:12 The Caravan Phenomenon and the Struggle to Control Migration
04:08 The Impact of Mass Migration on Local Communities
04:47 The Political Implications of the Migrant Crisis
05:29 The Role of NGOs and Government Agencies in Facilitating Migration
06:16 The Economic and Social Challenges of Housing and Employing Migrants
07:04 The Potential for Increased Crime and Social Unrest
09:28 The Impact of Migration on the Character and Future of America
12:30 The Role of Law and Rights in the Migration Debate
13:20 The Potential for a Migrant Workforce and the Impact on the Economy
16:43 The Global Impact of Migration and the Role of Other Countries
19:19 The Future of Migration and the Potential for Social and Political Chaos
20:20 Conclusion: The Dissolution of America and the Wave of History
 
Governor Greg Abbott today issued a statement on Texas’ constitutional right to defend and protect itself as President Joe Biden continues to attack Texas and refuse to perform his duties to secure the border.

"The Executive Branch of the United States has a constitutional duty to enforce federal laws protecting States, including immigration laws on the books right now," reads the statement. "President Biden has instructed his agencies to ignore federal statutes that mandate the detention of illegal immigrants. The failure of the Biden Administration to fulfill the duties imposed by Article IV, § 4 has triggered Article I, § 10, Clause 3, which reserves to this State the right of self-defense. For these reasons, I have already declared an invasion under Article I, § 10, Clause 3 to invoke Texas’s constitutional authority to defend and protect itself. That authority is the supreme law of the land and supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary."
Click to expand...

gov.texas.gov

Governor Abbott Issues Statement On Texas’ Constitutional Right To Self-Defense

gov.texas.gov gov.texas.gov
 

A flashing red light for Dems: Chicago resident on Biden's handling of the migrant crisis​

Jan 24, 2024
Katy Tur spoke with Chicago Resident, Cata Truss, who filed a lawsuit against Chicago over the migrant crisis. Cata expressed her current frustrations with the Democratic Party's handling of the crisis.


5:46
 
searcher said:

A flashing red light for Dems: Chicago resident on Biden's handling of the migrant crisis​

Jan 24, 2024
Katy Tur spoke with Chicago Resident, Cata Truss, who filed a lawsuit against Chicago over the migrant crisis. Cata expressed her current frustrations with the Democratic Party's handling of the crisis.


5:46
Click to expand...

It's great that she, and others of her ethnicity are finally coming to her senses.

60 years too late, but better late than never.

Someone needs to show her LBJ's comment about her and her forebearers and how he'd have them voting demoncratic for the next 200 years.

Or this one of his.

These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference.

Then he gave 'em the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that mostly served to pull many blacks down the economic ladder and created a welfare mentality in their communities.
.....and it's taken 60 years for them to even begin to see it for what those 60 years have actually been.

I find it sad that it took her seeing other people receiving benefits that the government told her it couldn't afford for her and her people, to do it.
....but at least her eyes are opening and I welcome her into the fold.

So when you gonna join us, Searcher? Can you, like her begin to see where your chosen leadership is going wrong?

We'll keep a chair warm for you, buddy. ;)
 


Gov. Abbott's letter (post#46 above) may end up being the spark that starts a new States vs. Federal gov civil war.
 
pmbug said:
Gov. Abbott's letter (post#46 above) may end up being the spark that starts a new States vs. Federal gov civil war.
Click to expand...
It certainly ought to. Failure to perform his Constitutionally imposed duties is grounds to disregard him and his "orders".



Texas needs to start the process of removing the bidet from the Texas ballot, too.


Before it becomes too late, the idiot dems need to fully consider the consequences of their actions, as they are taking actions that seem as though they are ok with tearing the nation apart.

I'd like to be able to give them the benefit of the doubt that they know not what they do, but it sure seems as though they know exactly what they are doing and doing it with full intention.
 
If they ain't willing, send all the illegals to those States, then kick 'em out of the Union.
 

McConnell casts doubt on border and Ukraine aid deal as GOP fury threatens both​

The Senate minority leader's shift comes as Trump pushes Republicans to oppose the immigration pact, seeking instead to wield border chaos as a political weapon against Biden.

WASHINGTON — Inside a special closed-door Republican meeting on Wednesday, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., cast doubt on an emerging deal to tighten immigration laws, citing GOP opposition to its provisions and telling senators that linking the two measures could also sink Ukraine aid.

It represents a marked shift for the top Senate Republican, who has been pushing hard for a bipartisan deal to pass the border legislation and foreign aid bill together through the Democratic-led Senate and the Republican-led House.

“When we started this, the border united us and Ukraine divided us,” McConnell told his fellow Republicans, according to a source familiar with his remarks. “The politics on this have changed.”

The shift comes as Donald Trump, who has pushed congressional GOP members to kill the deal, marches to the Republican presidential nomination and as hard-right Senate Republicans have grown increasingly pointed in their criticism of McConnell.

More:

www.nbcnews.com

McConnell casts doubt on border and Ukraine aid deal as GOP fury threatens both

The Senate minority leader's shift comes as Trump pushes Republicans to oppose the immigration pact, seeking instead to wield border chaos as a political weapon against Biden.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
 
From Trump



 
Last edited by a moderator:
I don't know how true this is, so take it fwiw.

A convoy calling themselves 'God's army' plans to head to the Texas border to stop migrants from entering the US​

  • A convoy is heading to the southern border to stop migrants from entering the United States.
  • The group's leader described their tactics as "domestic internal defense."
  • It is not clear what the group plans to do once they reach the border.
A convoy of hundreds of people plans to head to the Texas border to stop migrants crossing into the country from Mexico.

The group, called "Take Our Border Back," is organizing on Telegram and now has more than 1,600 followers.

One of the group's organizers described them as "God's army" in a planning call, according to Vice.

More:

MSN

www.msn.com
 
Cross posting:
pmbug said:
ChatGPT was useless on the last question, but I did find the data I was seeking here:


From 1960 to 2018, the most encounters at the southern border recorded in one year was 1,643,679 in the year 2000. It was less than 400,000 in 2018.

In FY2022 and FY2023, the totals were 2,378,994 and 2,475,669 per:

Southwest Land Border Encounters

Securing America's Borders
www.cbp.gov
Click to expand...

www.pmbug.com

ChatGPT: - Illegal immigration totals

Please list the total number of illegal immigrants known or estimated to have entered the USA since (and including) 2001 by year for every year that you have data. Please also cite your source(s).
www.pmbug.com www.pmbug.com
 

President Biden vows to 'shut down the border' if Congress passes bipartisan deal​

https://www.yahoo.com/news/president-biden-vows-shut-down-172051847.html

Bold and underlined = my emphasis

Biden is seeking a deal for a $110 billion supplemental spending package in Congress that would include border measures to bring Republicans on board to back more funding to help Ukraine defend itself against Russia.

Under the package discussed in the Senate, the Department of Homeland Security would be granted the power to shut the border down when the average daily migrant crossings at the border exceed 4,000 over a one-week period, according to CNN and other media outlets.

And if daily migrant crossings at the border surpass 5,000, the Department of Homeland Security would be required to close the border to migrants crossing illegally.

Two quick questions:
1). So why does the security of OUR border have to depend on continued funding for Ukraine?
2). Also note the wording above. Please explain to me why our border is not already closed to "migrants crossing illegally".

This is politics at its finest. Once again, we get Kabuki theater instead of real, honest solutions.

This proposal simply gives Biden an out. It's designed to enable him to say I offered a solution to "close the border," something the Republicans have been bitching about for years, and yet they didn't pass this bill. So now you can lay the blame at their feet and not mine.

It's straightforward theatrics concocted in an election year to sway opinions; that's all it is.
 
The federal government is a complete failure.
Where have the politicians been for all these years that the border has been wide open?
DHS? WTF is the role of DHS really? looks like they are facilitating the dispersion of these people all over the US. I knew this agency was a scam from the start.
Where did all these NGO's get funding from? Had to come from Government and from what I have been told when these people get across the border they are put on a plane and handed a debit card loaded with 5k on it. On top of that, healthcare services are being overwhelmed by these people. Americans get fined for no insurance, illegals get free healthcare on top of all the other freebies. Welcome to America.

Maybe chaos is the plan so Marshall law can be brought in. No idea what the big picture plan is but it doesn't look bright for Americans. Unfortunately there is no real solution to end this shit and fix what's gone on. We aren't going to vote our way out of this and I dont see ordinary Americans picking up guns to shoot all these people. I'm not even sure we have a chance to win a rigged election anymore. In 2020 we did nothing about the rigged elections. that's when 80 million should have taken to the streets but sat on our asses instead. Now we see the ramifications of that.
 
I live in a very small town of about 800. Just ran to the gas station and 3 sheriffs were there with the FD paramedics. Just an OD where they give em a shot to revive em and then they are on their way. Whats the real cost to the taxpayer to keep these drug addicts alive? Drug addicts being fueled by drugs coming over the wide open Mexican border.
I cant even begin to imagine the true costs to American taxpayers when you add up all of this crap.
 
Makes sense if you think about it. Why should the feds be allowed to just dump 100,000 people into a state and burden the state?
Already we are seeing the results of that. Changing the demographics in a state like Minnesota by dumping so many immigrants into a small location and then getting a congress critter elected in that same district.
Then we have DA's around the country not wanting to prosecute for smaller thefts which in turns leading to many stores being targeted and losing hundreds of millions or even billions nationwide. Then the feds drop off 10,'s of thousands of potential criminals and can turn any great city into a shit hole overnight.
It's nice to see states pushing back. Red states have had enough and blue states just want more money from the feds. The blue states have a point though, feds just cant drop off 100k people and say here you take care of them.
 
Sanctuary cities asked for it and now they got it. Now they are crying that they are being overwhelmed and need resources.
So, here's how that will end up playing out. They will demand money from the feds and since these cities are all blue, they will get it. Isn't socialism great? It doesn't matter where you live, you will pay for the mess in the cities that have declared sanctuary status.
 
Cigarlover said:
Makes sense if you think about it. Why should the feds be allowed to just dump 100,000 people into a state and burden the state?
Already we are seeing the results of that.
Click to expand...
Yep, we are. I came here after watching the following video and and the first thing I saw was a perfect intro for it, as it shows the results for all to see. Thanks for posting that.



Also, I saw where in Denver, come Feb 5th, they are going to start kicking "migrants" out of the shelters. I'm sure that'll go well. After all, it never gets too cold in Denver in February, does it?


Cigarlover said:
Sanctuary cities asked for it and now they got it. Now they are crying that they are being overwhelmed and need resources.
Click to expand...
Yep. I hope they choke on that bs. They only became so-caled sanctuary cities as a way to be against Trump's illegal immigration policies. Now it's biting them in the ass. As Tony the Tiger would say, That's great!
 
^^^^^^
I see this ain't going nowhere fast.
 
There is a whole lot of election year circus/theater happening on this issue while real costs in human misery/tragedy and tax money are accruing.
 

Lawmaker says whistleblower tipped him off to 'hidden room' holding migrants at Atlanta airport​

Migrants were discovered in a room at Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport while they reportedly awaited flights to cities nationwide, a Georgia state lawmaker revealed Friday.

State Sen. Colton Moore said a whistleblower told him migrants were being held in a discreet room in the world's busiest airport, so he sent a team of cameras to the Altanta airport to get answers.

He joined "Fox & Friends" to discuss his interaction with volunteers, which was all caught on camera, after they were adamant about him not recording their altercation.

"We got a whistleblower, who gave us a tip about this hidden room, and I had a full team there with some different cameras in different places, and said on Monday and Tuesday nights, there's just an influx of these people who come to the airport, kind of when the traffic is much lower at the airport," Moore told host Lawrence Jones, who called it "shady business."

More:

 
More greatness from Tom Holman.
"I'm a taxpayer, you work for me"

Tom Homan REFUSES to take any CRAP from hysterical dem who tries to silence him​

 

Illegals who caught bus out of NYC after attack on police may have gotten free ride from US taxpayers: sources​

Your tax dollars at work

Four men charged in Saturday's attack on two NYPD officers are believed to have fled to California on a bus, and unwitting taxpayers appear to have paid for their tickets, a law enforcement source told Fox News Digital.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/illegals-caught-bus-nyc-attack-225318120.html
 
Came across this on a different site. Looks at immigration from a different perspective.

Broken Immigration Policy Undercuts Potential US Advantage​

The United States should embrace increased movement of people as an integral and beneficial fact of the world today, lead the international community in developing a coherent, legal, and humane management plan, and leverage U.S. history as a diverse society to benefit the U.S. economy and society writ large. As a result, the US could restore its reputation, become an appealing focal point for people around the world, and gain significant soft power. Migration is a major part of the world today, and it is an area where China is a non-player. The United States has a notable potential edge in this area over China. Washington should exploit it.

Is the United States inadvertently rejecting a strategic advantage in its competition with China?

The current immigration policy debate in the U.S. centers around how to limit immigration, with positions ranging from extreme restrictions and expulsions to calls to cap the current numbers of people coming into the country. Beyond the moral implications, such policies are shortsighted and 180 degrees wrong from economic prosperity and national security perspectives.

The United States’ restrictive immigration policies undermine U.S. competitive strategy toward China because it weakens the U.S. economy and damages Washington’s global influence. Instead, the United States should significantly increase immigration as a central element of a national security strategy that maximizes America’s strength as a growing, dynamic, open, and diverse society, admired and widely engaged with the world, relative to China as a demographically stagnant, closed, and largely homogenous society. In competing with China, a more expansive and open immigration policy is a potentially major area of comparative advantage for the U.S.

Full article:

 
Joe could shut the border down tomorrow, but the dems are using the crisis as a tool to blackmail the Republicans into giving them more money. After which, they will open the border up even wider.


biden40.jpg
 
Joe could shut the border down tomorrow, but the dems are using the crisis as a tool to blackmail the Republicans into giving them more money. After which, they will open the border up even wider.


View attachment 11876
 
searcher said:
Instead, the United States should significantly increase immigration as a central element of a national security strategy
Click to expand...
F' that. Only a socialist/Globalist would want that.

Besides, we got no where to put 'em. It's not as though we have millions of houses and apartments sitting vacant just waiting for people from other countries to come live in them. We don't have enough housing for our own people. The fake asylum seekers (all of 'em, in other words) need to go back home.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom