Did Ron Paul Slay The Gold Bull?

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I don´t agree with the conlcusion of the following article that gold would plummet under president Paul, it would rather stabilize.

http://www.fallstreet.com/dec1511.html
 
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Yep - while I agree that a big contextual change such as RP in power would tick one of the necessary boxes and set the stage for more (such as positive real interest rates - eventually), there are several boxes left to tick before gold goes back to sleep.

The reality is, pages of new tickboxes keep turning up, and the pen is lost behind the sofa.

This is also the kind of article that makes me think '2008, rinse, repeat'.
 
That article is retarded IMO.

This forum is chock full of discussion on the real issues that are driving the precious metals markets. Investors aren't going to abandon gold in the immediate terms because a politician might possibly be elected a year away.

The article is intended to cast doubt and fear (appealing to greed) in Ron Paul supporters who are also precious metals investors. However, the author clearly doesn't understand what Ron Paul is really advocating.
 
Here's my take on Ron Paul and what could happen. I am very-pro Ron Paul.

1) If Ron Paul wins, our country will have terrible problems and the pain will be enormous.

2) If Ron Paul does NOT win, our country's problems will be MUCH WORSE and the PAIN MUCH GREATER.

I am going to "guess" that the price of gold would not change too much either just because a sensible man would be president. I agree with above comments that there are many factors moving the price of gold around.
 
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RP may start to move the country in the right direction which would be long term negative for gold. However, I think he would also push to repeal the legal tender laws and allow gold to compete as a currency. this would greatly expand its appeal. also possibly lower taxes on its sale etc. and if we went back to some form of gold standard that represented the current monetary base gold would be much higher. also likely would try to root out any price suppression schemes in gold and silver at the Fed.
 
If we went back to the gold standard, gold would stagnate at some price. And inflation would no longer exist unless gold production increased faster than the population. Most likely gold production would not keep up with population, so we would be in a permanent deflation mode, much to the chagrin of any big spending government.
 
mmerlinn - this is all true, except the rate of gold production is irrelevant. There's already enough above ground to form a practical counterbalance for the number of heads alive on the planet and their need to store up productive output as money. The unsolved variable is price - that will have to change to suit, and this part is only harmful if the gold is all in the wrong hands. This is the bit that worries me, not the lack of gold or it's production rate per se.
 
I think the whole article was meant to be a joke and not a hit piece.
I thought it might be thought provoking. No pun intended :shrug:
I´ve cut out one paragraph in the op that would have clarified the intention of the author. Maybe I shouldn´t have done this. Here it is:

Ron Paul has advocated slightly different gold standard models over the years. One is the competitive currencies model a la Hayek.
Dr Paul has also been advocating for a pure gold standard (100 % backed) without referencing competition by fiats.
I´ve also heard him talk about bi-metallism (gold + silver) which has it´s flaws because a fixed gold-silver ratio can turn into a problem when the actual ratio of physical stocks fluctuates, e.g. after of a big discovery of silver. There would have to be some correction mechanism for that.

His current position of competing currencies is meant to offer a transition program under which FRNs slowly become irrelevant because Mr Market chooses gold over FRNs and by doing that also diminishes the power of the FED.
I haven´t really thought about it in detail, but this seems to be his current idea.
 
A gold standard is something we'd switch to after we clear away these excesses. To do so right now would pretty much ensure bankruptcy of well over 70% of the general public. The economy would be exposed as the fraud that it is but it would also really hurt a public that has no savings and huge debts. Imagine having to actually pay off a home with interest in a deflationary environment..

Probably the one thing people are overlooking is that he'd probably expose the naked short selling currently occurring in mining shares.
 
Been listening to a lot of podcasts from James Rickards. He dispels a lot of common misperceptions about the gold standard and deflation etc. The reason why the gold standard was deflationary during the great depression is because they picked too low of a price. money supply had doubled over a period of time but they didnt choose a gold price high enough to compensate for that. That is why he believed if they picked something like 8k now would do the trick. all depends what u use for money supply, % backing, gold stock etc.
 
If the dollar was gold backEd.. the price per ounce would have to rise tenfold ..which could be good initially for holders of gold.
 
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