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You're pretty much defenseless in a boat.
GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!!!
What exactly is going to attack you 5+ miles offshore? If it is the military you are worried about, you have just as much chance (zero) of defending yourself at land based location.
If a Japan type situation happens, you can not move your BOL out of the fallout path.
Basically, instead of digging in, this is more of a leave the danger zone strategy.
Someone with a bigger,faster boat & more guns than you.
If you can get 5 miles out,so can the bad guys.
Think pirates,drug runners,etc...
GOD BLESS & BRING OUR TROOPS HOME!!!
A boat would be great for a short term solution if you want to escape society. Not so great for the long term if you enjoy eating more than fish.
I guess my idea lines up with my idea of the SHTF situation being our own government running amok. I would like the option of simply leaving (good luck getting your valuables through TSA).
Example:
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/fo...ef-of-staff-use-army-for-domestic-enforcement
Despite being expressly forbidden by the Constitution, the top general in the army wants to start policing "domestic terrorists"
I guess my idea lines up with my idea of the SHTF situation being our own government running amok. I would like the option of simply leaving (good luck getting your valuables through TSA).
At least once every human should have to run for his life, to teach him that milk does not come from supermarkets, that safety does not come from policemen, that "news" is not something that happens to other people. He might learn how his ancestors lived and that he himself is no different – in the crunch his life depends on his agility, alertness, and personal resourcefulness.
–Robert Heinlein
While I understand the lust for a perfect solution no matter what - that's a pipe dream. Heinlein said it best. You'd better be your own best bet.
I believe a lot of people think that if they just somehow manage to show up in a rural area after a crisis with a buncha shiny they've got it made. They're going to find it's not for sale at any price in anything...they might just get turned back at the door.
It's even that way to a certain extent already. Takes awhile to become accepted to the point where anyone will help you buy any land out here. Basically, we love our land and don't want to sell it except to "good hands". And then it's more like, you have to wait for someone to die and make the land available at all from their heirs who've moved to cities and now just want to cash out daddies money. Could be that most of them think of daddie's farm they've not yet sold (prices are down everywhere so some are just waiting) is their own bugout...and sales of land will go down, not up.
Some guy who thinks money (of any sort) makes him superior or entitled to whatever he wants is going to get a big surprise - that only works when things are normal. Or when people feel they have a need for whatever you have to offer.
It's not like farmers don't stack themselves, FYI. They stack a lotta things.
EG, my own advice (and my money is very much where my mouth is), is bug out now if anything like that is in your plans - learn how to live more independently of the system now, it's not a trivial pursuit.
When we trade, we talk of crowded trades being dangerous - the exit ramp has a finite size (and so does the on ramp) - the same idea applies here.
A good example of acting on emotion rather than with reason. That tends to bite people more times than not.Take a look at post #18 and read the article attached. It is an account of what happens when your country (Zimbabwe in this case) goes to hell and mobs and/or the government decides to kick you off your rural land. In this case the government made everything about race and essentially drove all the white land owners.
"These friends had plenty of stockpiled weapons and ammunition; they had water, food, and ham radio contact with nearby farms. But what they didn't have was the hundreds (note this is what I was told, so I am unsure if this number is an exaggeration) of people that the mob that came for their farm had. Their guns were useless against this large mob. They couldn't just shoot indiscriminately into the crowd without drawing the ire of the military [which was tacitly supporting the farm invasions]. Shots fired to try to disperse the crowd led them to charge. The sons at the farm were seriously beaten up trying to stand their ground."
“...at least 90 per cent of formerly white-owned farms - more than 20 million acres - lie fallow since Mr Mugabe began chasing whites off their rural properties, while agricultural exports, which once earned 40 per cent of Zimbabwe's foreign exchange, have collapsed, and more than half the population needs food aid.”
I see many people talk about the idea of having a seperate property far away from cities to retreat to called a Bug Out Location (BOL). Assuming you live near water, has anyone ever thought of a sailboat as a BOL?
For similar, or even cheaper, price of a land based BOL, you could buy a sailboat capable of sailing far away from the SHTF incident.
http://www.sailboatlistings.com/
Discuss!
you truly can't eat gold or silver (although I have some)
I personally found this amusing:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/surviving-apocalypse-lifeboat
So, how to test that a tsunami doesn't just crack this thing in half? Concrete boats!
Join the Donner party!
did you just swallow it whole ?
Nothing wrong with that design DCF.
Anything that would smash open a nearly circular reinforced concrete section would almost certainly break any other similarly priced hull design.
Its very stable, sits low in the water, doesnt mind total immersion for a few minutes and is quick to self right. Everyone inside it remains dry, has enough air to breath and will not get beaten to jelly by the pods likely movements.
Ok its attempting to plan for a situation that i will not be worrying about
but theres a lot of predictions for such events, One referenced on ZH recently from Clif High, whose podcast regarding this subject and a bunch of work done by teams of remote viewers can be found here -
http://halfpasthuman.com/index.html
remote viewers work here -
http://www.farsight.org/demo/Demo2008/RV_Demo_2008_Page1.html
Hard to defend a boat. Its hard to live to far out to sea. Lots of other people will be on their boats. and only a sail boat would be worth it, than what if there is no wind. too many possibilities.
I wanna be in the country hiddin. id love one of those old Nuke buildings in the mid west.
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