Is anybody buying this dip?

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Or are you guys waiting for a deeper dip?

I'm holding off until the weekend. A perceived "solution" to the cliff might result in lower prices.
 
eh, I would definitely consider buying something, if it wasn't such a futile exercise - every time I buy a bit, it ends up getting lost in some unfortunate accident, be it canoe toppled over, or burrying it somewhere in secret and dog eating my map... Sick and tired of losing all my savings that way...
 
I'm a bit over extended and tapped out right now. I only wish I could be stacking right now.
 
I feel we might still see some lower prices, before year's end - I tend to agree with swissaustrian, that this all feels like a rinse & repeat cycle from 2011/2012 (am I starting to getting hang on that gold ting, or what ). I honestly was feeling a little indecisive about buying up until now, without seeing some violent attacks (which I felt should come, and sure they did), and robust recovery afterwards (which I am sure will come, question at what levels). Now when we are staring at violent attacks, I'll just wait a little bit longer, to see that other bit (robust recovery ). I'll most probably miss the bottom, but I prefer to miss it on the (somewhat confirmed) way up, not down. Just seems to be a safer bet. And why not employ some of our in house traders' tricks, like the ones presented by swissaustrian and DCFusor, to time things well and give yourself a better chance.

December is not through yet, and it seems to me that whomever is doing these "market" machinations, would like to see the meme spreading, in various analysts' "past year reviews/new year's forecasts", that "precious metals bull market is officially finished, this passing year 2012". To date, after last slam, silver is about 2.5% up year on year, gold is about -1.5% down y/y - which does not guarantee they will stay below their Jan 1 2012 levels, given rather organic long term growth in price, and quite remarkable recovery after all the previous whams.

Next thing, even in that long-term bull market in PMs, there is some cyclicality - and it seems that every second year is stronger growth - weaker/no growth. just check the long term trends since about 2000. So, 2012 is kind of supposed to be a "weak" one.

My $.02
 
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Transferred money from savings to checking ready to buy some physical. Also have cash in some investment accounts ready to buy some paper.

Been reading some other forums, and the technical guys there seem to think there's still a bit more to drop.
 
quick thught: if it indeed is China, as rumoured, that puts the floor under gold price - just occured to me, wouldn't it be good for them - long-term hoarders - to at least temporarily remove the floor, let the gold fell waaaay down, and start accumulating there? What's your take on this, guys?

(a little bit off topic, but hey...)

another thing: I know 'twas mentioned already, that inverse correlation of USD/PMs has been broken recently, but now, it looks like it is pretty much a close NORMAL correlation?!? WTF?
 
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Yes, if it was only China. Other Eastern central banks would step in as well, though. Private buyers with huge pockets would also take advantage.
 
I finally had enough extra cabbage to roll on several tubes of ASE's, but the premiums were crazy. My LCS jacked the premium up to 5.25 per ounce, but was very kind to sell me the ones I got for only 3.85 over. With my guy, he always has to trap the delta when silver gets slammed, because he really has no choice. When he gets an allocation or when someone gomes in to sell, this is when they are available. Right now, folks are not really buying very heavily so his stock is several weeks old.

Oh well, all in good time, all in good time.
 
Why would TPTB want silver to remain #1 performer for 2012.

Make silver look bad, on PAPER, and keep paper believers away.

Endless psy-ops against PM's.
 
If you're dollar cost averaging, this looks like a decent spot for a small buy. My system for *trading* says, wait a little longer. Could be the manipulators want to show the end of the PM bull this year. I'll wait for my usual signal for trading.
 
Here's a report from two guys who know gold & silver far better than I do, and they have the cred:

http://www.gata.org/files/QBAMCOItsTime-12-2012.pdf

a good read. Bursted laughing at that one:
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They just want to close it out for the year to look like a bad investment. Nothing to see here.. move along.. right.
 
...one thing that makes me feel that PMs are still on the way up, long term:

look at the rate of price rises, vs. the price drops. The rise is somehow steady, all between the sudden drops.

If anything, it looks like a "panic" sell-offs (even if we take away the "conspiracy" bit out of it - which is hardly any conspiracy anymore, because it is being done in the open), and the steady, healthy growth in between them.

I'll take what I can out of it, and BTFD.
 
SONOFABITCH!! I should have friggin' waited. The carnage continues unabated, and of course, the CFTC is nowhere to be found. I'm glad they aren't responsible for responding to car accidents and shit.
 
thanks Superhero, great post there! I will need to research into that guy's method of tying the net shorts positions, with predictable attacks - because from what I've heard, silver net short position for say JPM has increased during 2012 from about $60bil, to about $90bil (which is ginormous, 50% increase of already enormous position). Which would all but warrant violent attacks, to cover some of these shorts.

But I would love to see his method of putting some numbers behind my "gut feelings".

Ancona, don't feel too bad - I for one am afraid, that I will call my local dealer at some stage in the very near future, only to learn, that they are completely out of stock - for as long, as this super-low push persists. Which is a real possibility.
 
I basically just agree with most of what Bushi has said.

1. They want gold to close out as low as possible at the end of the year.
So for my money Dec 31 probably the date to buy. (Too bad all my money is in PM's already.)

2. Except for the sudden 'attacks' which drop the price massively in less than an hour or two, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a graph that rises as smoothly and consistently as gold does.
 
If last year was any indication of how gold reacts after liquidation is done, I would think we start heading higher after the 27th.

I am already seeing some of the miners pop this morning. It's obvious to me that the vast majority of the selling is done for some of these names.
 
I don't personally believe they are finished yet. Expect more shenanigans going in to year end, because those massive shorts have to be counted on their books, so the lower the better.
 
I don't personally believe they are finished yet. Expect more shenanigans going in to year end, because those massive shorts have to be counted on their books, so the lower the better.

COT report is today and we should have some commercial short covering along with spec shorts putting on new positions in this report. This report will not include the past 2 days of trading but definitely will encompass a large portion of this recent sell off.
 
As mentioned in an earlier post, I've been following Some_Math_Guy on the kitco forums. Several months ago, he warned people of impending manipulation, silver prices in the sub-$30s.

His latest post:

https://www.kitcomm.com/showpost.php?p=1868667&postcount=128

 
December 26th is op/ex. It seems the targets of 1650 and 30 were reached today, so the dumpfest is over.
 
Bought some SLV and GLD for my parents (I handle part of their retirement account).

May get some (physical) for myself this weekend.
 
I think we could see < $1900 gold this year, but I visited a couple of online bullion dealers today.

I like 50 pesos and $10 Liberty on sale.
 
Spot might dip, but will premiums rise to cover?
 
Spot might dip, but will premiums rise to cover?

You just hit the nail on the head. Spot is becoming more and more disconnected from physical price that it is becoming meaningless. I am also more than a little concerned about all the fakes I've been reading about.
 
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