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searcher said:
Don't trust cops, prosecutors or judges. Our system of justice has been broken for a long time.
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Joe King:

So why trust the ones prosecuting and judging the Jan 6th defendants? They're Americans with the same Rights as you. If they can have evidence withheld and held for extended period without trial, so can you. Are you ok with that happening to you? If not, extend that same attitude to them, too.
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Both of you are spot on. Both of you stopped short to where you would probably agree.

It is no secret that many judges have been co-opted (just look at Arizona/Pennsylvania/Wisconsin judicial "rulings") . It is easy enough to do in our disintegrating society: They just walk up to a judge and point out that even a Supreme Court judge can be put down and buried with no fuss at all. And give them their marching orders.

So how to fix it? Litmus test of past rulings. We need reality at this point. The judges that freed the murderers. The prosecutors that either didn't prosecute, or prosecuted the victims. Reality says, this is, unfortunately but inevitably, a time of reset.

Trust prosecutors with records of doing their jobs. Simply choose them exclusively. Who could argue?

Trust judges with with records of doing their jobs. Ditto.

Arrest the prosecutors with records of politics guiding how they did their jobs. Judges also.
 
How does one 'interfere' when they already left the building?

 
Folks still hanging on to the 'Official story'... I admire your comittment...

 
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The Parliamentary Motive Behind the J6 Fedsurrection​

March 12, 2023 | Sundance |

The Ring of Truth – “I am too well accustomed to the taking of evidence not to detect the ring of truth.” 1908, Edith Wharton
Much has been made of the events of January 6, 2021, and with the latest broadcast of CCTV video from inside the Capitol Hill complex, more questions have been raised.

Within the questions: the FBI and government apparatus had advanced knowledge of the scale of the J6 mall assembly yet doing nothing? Why were the Capitol Hill police never informed of the FBI concerns? Why didn’t House Speaker Nancy Pelosi secure the Capitol Hill complex, and why did she deny the request by President Trump to call up the national guard for security support? Why did the FBI have agent provocateurs in the crowd, seemingly stimulating rage within a peaceful crowd to enter the Capitol building? There have always been these nagging questions around ‘why’?



Long time CTH reader “Regitiger” has spent a great deal of time reviewing the entire process, looking at the granular timeline and then overlaying the bigger picture of the constitutional and parliamentary process itself. What follows below is a brilliant analysis of the federal government motive to create a J6 crisis that permitted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to trigger an emergency session and avoid the 2020 election certification challenges.

Those congressional floor challenges, known and anticipated well in advance of the morning of January 6, 2021, would have formed a legal and constitutional basis for ‘standing’ in judicial challenges that would have eventually reached the Supreme Court. The certification during “emergency session” eliminated the problem for Washington DC.

Regitiger explains below, only edited by me for clarity and context:

I think most, not all, but a large number of people, are totally missing what happened; and why this happened on Jan 6th. I am going to try my best to outline the events that day, blast past the commonly held assumptions and get right down to the core corruption.

I will present this as a series of questions and answers.

♦ Q1: How do you prevent congress from delaying the certification of state electoral votes?

A: It requires a crisis. A crisis that creates an “emergency” …An “emergency” that invokes special house rules.

FACTS: Remember carefully, focus please. Just moments, literally 3 minutes before two representatives issued a vote for motions to suspend the certification, the House members were “informed” by capitol police and other “agents” that a protest was about to breach the chambers. It was at this time that key people: Pence, Pelosi, Schumer, Mcconnell can be seen being walked out and escorted from the chamber. This effectively halted the Entire Chamber Process.

♦ Q2: Why was it necessary to halt the chamber process?
A: The crisis was created to eliminate the motion challenges to halt the certification and to begin voting to look into voting irregularities and fraud

FACTS: The two motions were completely legal and constitutional under at least two constitutionally recognized procedures… procedures that would REQUIRE the house to pause the certification and then vote to determine whether the motions of suspend could move forward.

♦ Q3: What was so important to refuse this motion and the subsequent votes to suspend the electoral certification?

A: It was important to remove that process entirely and continue the fraud and certify the fraud with no detractors on record. This effectively gives no standing for a SCOTUS ruling appeal! Understand this. If those two motions, even just one had successfully been voted EVEN IF THE MOTIONS were DENIED IN VOTE, this gives those who presented them with STANDING FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL LEGAL ARGUMENT BEFORE SCOTUS.

♦ Q4: Could this have been done some other way other than creating a crisis/protest?

A: Unlikely. In order to prevent those two motions, requires that speaker of the house, minority leaders, and the president of the congress (vice president of the United States: Pence), to NOT BE PRESENT IN THE CHAMBERS.

Once the capitol police and other “law enforcements agents” informed the speaker and these three other individuals, Pelosi UNILATERALLY UNDER EMERGENCY RULES, suspended the business of the congress. This protest was necessary. The crisis was created because there is no other way to suspend the business of certification UNILATERALLY. By creating a crisis invokes emergency procedures. No other circumstances other than war or mass simultaneous explosive diarrhea can create such unilateral speaker delivered suspension of the certification.

♦ Q5: Why did the motions, once that the speaker RECONVENED congress, move forward back again to the floor for votes? Why were members disallowed to even consider putting forward ANY motions to the floor in when the chamber business was reopened?

A: The Speaker initiated the NEW sessions under special emergency rules. These rules abandon and make it clear that the ONLY purpose of the new session was to EXPEDITE the certification and dismiss all prior regular session procedural rules. This is why those two motions to table votes to consider a debate and pause to the certifications of state vote electors never happened later that evening when the house business was reconvened!

♦ Q6: Other than new rules, emergency rules, what other peculiar things occurred when the speaker reconvened?

A: Members were allowed to “vote” in proxy, remotely, not being present. You can use your imagination about what conditions were placed on ALL members during this time to prevent anyone from “getting out of line”.

Also clearly, it was at THIS NEW SESSION that VP Pence, President of Congress, would also have no ability to even consider pausing the electoral certification, because there were no motions of disagreements on the matter. So, in a technical legal claim, he is correct that he had no constitutional authority to address any issues of fraud or doubts about electoral irregularities. But this completely dismisses the FACT that congress created rules in this crisis/emergency that never allowed them to be floored!

Understand what happened in Jan 6, 2021. Don’t get hung up on Viking impostors, stolen Pelosi computers, podium heists, and complicit capitol police. Understand the process and what happened and what WAS NOT ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.

This was a coup….it was a very organized and carefully planned coup. VP Pence without a doubt as well as most members of the house were quite aware of how the certification was going to be MANAGED. It would require new rules to prevent the debate clause from occurring! New rules that ONLY AN EMERGENCY CRISIS COULD CREATE! So, they created an emergency.

•NOTED: I understand why many people have great interest in debunking the j6 event. I get that. I think it is important to dissect and examine the events of that day but please, step back and understand WHY these things happened. Examine the chain of events in congress. Why those two motions that would have at least paused the certification THAT WOULD GIVE VP PENCE THE CONSTITUTIONALLY RECOGNIZED POWER TO MOVE TO SUSPEND THE ELECTORAL CERTIFICATION AND THEN EXAMINE THE IRREGULARITIES AND CLAIMS OF FRAUD!

At the very center of this coup stands Mike Pence, the same individual who also spoiled President Trump’s first opportunities in the earlies hours of his Presidency just 4 years prior, when he created and facilitated the removal of Lt General Michael Flynn. I will not spend much time on this thread explaining why Lt Gen Flynn was so important to President Trump and why the IC was so afraid he would have advisory power to the President. That I will leave for another day, another time. But understand this clearly: MIKE PENCE WAS AND IS WORKING FOR THE MOST CORRUPT CRIMINAL TREASONOUS PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT.

•PRO TIP: If you really want to get a true understanding of this matter videos of protesters walking in the capitol is not going to address them. Actual video and timeline records of events and the specific actions taken by the speaker just moments before TWO MAJOR ELECTORAL ALTERING MOTIONS WERE ABOUT TO BE FLOORED.

This crisis was developed just in time with a precise coordination to prevent those two motions to be entered into the chamber record. The two motions do not exist. The emergency powers established in the new session made sure they never could be entered. The emergency powers could never happen without a crisis.

God Bless America!”

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The Parliamentary Motive Behind the J6 Fedsurrection - The Last Refuge

The Ring of Truth – “I am too well accustomed to the taking of evidence not to detect the ring of truth.” 1908, Edith Wharton Much has been made of the events of January 6, 2021, and with the latest broadcast of CCTV video from inside the Capitol Hill complex, more questions have been raised. […]
theconservativetreehouse.com
 

J6 Committee Treason, Bioweapon Vax Deaths Ignored, Fed Still Raising Rates​

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From the link:

Prosecutors have revealed that convicted Capitol rioter Larry Brock concocted a bloodthirsty plan to seize power on January 6th, 2021 that involved taking hostages, arresting journalists, and cutting off food and water to cities where Democratic voters lived.

MSN

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Looks like Freedom of Speech to me... only 24 months in jail, yet the Qanon Shaman gets 6?? WTF!

WASHINGTON (CBSNewsTexas.com) — A Grapevine man will spend the next two years in prison for his actions during the January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol.

Larry Brock, 55, was sentenced to 24 months in prison on a count of obstructing an official proceeding. He received a total of 18 months for five other misdemeanor charges. All sentences will be run concurrently.

Brock was convicted on Nov. 16, 2022 following a bench trial in front of U.S. District Judge John D. Bates. Bates also ordered Brock to pay $2,000 in restitution.

According to court documents, Brock – a retired Lieutenant Colonel in the U.S. Air Force – was part of the mob that illegally entered the Capitol building after breaching police barriers. He entered the building at about 2:24 p.m. through the Senate Wing doors.

[who opened the magnetic doors and waved them in?]​

Brock, along with other rioters, continued moving through the building. When he was near the Rotunda doors, he picked up a pair of plastic handcuffs and held onto them while in the building.

[this is a crime?]​

At about 2:43 p.m., Brock entered the Senate balcony before moving downstairs and entering the Senate Chamber five minutes later. He wandered around the Chamber for another eight minutes and rifled through papers on Senators' desks.

[oooh this is a crime worth 2 years?]
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Brock left the Capitol building at about 3:01 p.m., 37 minutes after entering.

Evidence submitted by the government in court showed that Brock posted messages on social media in the weeks leading up to the riot, including one on Dec. 27, 2020 in which he declared, "I prefer insurrection at this point," and another on Jan. 5 which stated, "our second American Revolution begins in less than two days."

[freedom of speech]​

Brock was arrested on Jan. 10, 2021 in Texas, just four days after the attack. He was charged with felony obstruction of an official proceeding and five misdemeanors, including entering and remaining a restricted building, disorderly and disruptive conduct in a Capitol building, entering the floor of Congress, disorderly conduct in a Capitol building, and demonstrating in a Capitol building.

In the 26 months since Jan. 6, 2021, more than 999 individuals have been arrested in nearly all 50 states for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol, more than 320 individuals charged with assaulting or impeding law enforcement. The investigation remains ongoing.

[how many FBI & Antifa have they 'arrested'?]​

Grapevine man gets 2 years in prison for January 6 Capitol attack

A Grapevine man will spend the next two years in prison for his actions during the January 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol.
www.cbsnews.com

There's an obvious stretching of the facts here IMO... fitting a 'proven false' narrative
 
searcher said:
Larry Brock concocted a bloodthirsty plan to seize power on January 6th, 2021 that involved taking hostages, arresting journalists, and cutting off food and water to cities where Democratic voters lived.
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One guy was gonna do all that on January 6th?


Goldhedge said:
who opened the magnetic doors and waved them in?]
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They'd realllllllly appreciate it if everyone would just forget that part of it. Lol


Goldhedge said:
he picked up a pair of plastic handcuffs and held onto them while in the building.

[this is a crime?]​
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He picked them up? Who put them there to begin with?

Should be an easy question, because if they have video of him picking them up, they got vid of whoever placed them there.
....but havin' plastic (kids toy?) handcuffs can't be a crime. They're sold in practical every store in the nation that has a toy section.
 
From the link:

US District Judge Reggie Walton sentenced 21-year-old Aiden Bilyard to 40 months in prison on Friday. Bilyard, who was 18 on January 6 2021, travelled to Washington DC from North Carolina along with two other friends, according to The Charlotte Observer.

Bilyard entered a plea agreement with the prosecution after he admitted in October to assaulting police with a deadly or dangerous weapon when he sprayed Capitol officers with a “pepper gel.” He faced 46 to 57 months in prison.

 
This is different than the Oath Keepers trial where some members were found guilty of seditious conspiracy.

Six affiliates of far-right militia Oath Keepers convicted in connection to Jan. 6 Capitol attack​

Four people tied to the Oath Keepers, on trial for their actions related to the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack, were found guilty Monday of the most serious charge of conspiring to obstruct the certification of Joe Biden's 2020 election win.

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but what happens when it comes out that Pelosi conspired to interfere with Congress' ability to examine the validity of the election prior to the certification of 'Joe Biden's election' by creating a crisis ala the Jan 6 insurrection (which was designed to give Pelosi the upper hand) by hiding their insurrection on November 3rd?

Oh wait, that has come out already....
 
They keep insisting it was an 'insurrection'...

Is it still an 'insurrection' when they planned and implemented it as an entrapment for Trump supporters?

or are we going to continue believing the lie they tell?
 
Goldhedge said:
Is it still an 'insurrection' when they planned and implemented it as an entrapment for Trump supporters?
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Your post above is making the rounds in Trump world as he's calling for protest about his possible indictment in NY. Seems some of his ex supporters are posting "don't go - it's a trap" messages about the protests. Some are going a bit farther and talking about him leaving those charged for Jan 6 high and dry. Wonder what will happen if he actually is indicted?
 
searcher said:
Wonder what will happen if he actually is indicted?
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It will propel him into 2024.

Americans have a sense of fairness. Most everyone knows (and sees) the effort to smear Trump 'no matter what'.

After exposing the fraud over the past year there are more people in favor of Trump than against.

The double-edged sword from indicting Trump will be the same as forcing Trump to release his tax returns by going all the way to the SCOTUS (they spent years on that and found nothing btw!).

It means EVERY tax return can be accessed!

If they indict Trump it sets a precedent.

That means EVERY president can ALSO be indicted! Think "W", "Obama" et al...? I wonder if they've 'committed' any crimes???


Now ask yourself "Who has the most to hide?" Trump who is squeaky clean, or them?

Try as they might, and they have, they still haven't 'Got him' for 'all the crimes' he's alleged to have committed.

You'd think they would have learned by now: Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!

I have liberal friends who do nothing but spout the MSM talking points. "Orange Man Bad!" "All the crimes he's committed!" You've heard them all as well. When I ask them for proof, they continue spouting MSM innuendo talking points as if those are 'proof!' They are not!

Everyone is aware that Stormy Danials admitted there was no affair! Trump always said there was no 'there' there. In the end SHE had to pay Trump lawyer's fees for taking him to court!

The statute of limitations is 2 yrs for a misdemeanor, so why this indictment? They tortured the law and made it into a felony. Why? If convicted of a felony you can't hold public office. They HAVE to HAVE a felony to stop Trump.

What you are seeing is FEAR! They have lost control of the narrative. The MSM is dying on the vine of lies they tell. 'Alt news' IS the news now. They screwed the pooch! It's Trump Quicksand!

Rumor has it that it was Cohen who paid Stormy Danials hush money for 'HIS' indiscretions with her and blamed it on Trump!
 
Goldhedge said:
Rumor has it that it was Cohen who paid Stormy Danials hush money for 'HIS' indiscretions with her and blamed it on Trump!
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LOL !! I rarely listen to Cliff. He's spot on here:

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