Natural Gas is trading below average production cost

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Ok, this is going to be a long post:

Natural gas is cheap. It has recently made (near) 10 year lows:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/09/us-markets-nymex-natgas-idUSBRE8280TD20120309



Why?

There are three main reasons for the currently very low prices:
a. oversupply due to the mild winter which inventories at all time high
b. the shale gas revolution
c. open interest on the short side is huge due to producer hedging (see chart above). This opens up the potential of a short squeeze.

This massive oversupply is also reflected in the decisive contango of the futures curve:



However, the shale gas revolution didn't make natural gas production cheaper. In fact, usually shale gas is more expensive to produce compared to conventional gas. Even the most optimistic estimates put the break even level for producers at $ 3.25/Mcf: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/49342 The current price is $ 2.32.

Some of the big US producers have way higher production costs (numbers are for 2008, might be a little lower now due to drilling technology improvements):


Therefore many of them aren't making any profits and have consequently been cutting production:
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2012/02/13/drillers-cut-natural-gas-production-prices-drop.html

The oil/natural gas ratio is miles away from it's long-term average of ten:


The market is already reacting to this as car, bus and truck manufacturers react to high gasoline prices by focusing on natural gas fueled vehicles as alternatives:
http://beta.fool.com/kmet312/2012/03/07/natural-gas-pickups-picking-steam/2642/?source=TheMotleyFool

http://www.fool.com/investing/gener...oised-to-profit-from-natural-gas-vehicle.aspx

Japan is rapidly becoming a big buyer of natural gas for energy production, because they have decided to shut down ALL (!!) of their nuclear plants:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203824904577215030758114096.html?mod=rss_markets_main

There's also potential for arbitrage as natural gas prices in Europe and China are substantially higher than in the US making it interesting for US producers to ship their oversupplies to these regions.

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Ok, what to make of all of this:
1. These prices are unsustainable. No commodity trades below it's cost of production forever, especially if it can't be recycled. If the 2012/13 winter were to be cold, the current oversupply could shrink rapidly.
2. Are prices going to skyrocket soon? I don't know. Maybe they'll plummet even further, but this won't be sustainable in the long run. Natural Gas is incredibly volatile. One thing is for sure: Prices won't stay where the are. So if you want to trade it in the short run use options for a volatility trade which I described here: http://www.pmbug.com/forum/f3/how-trade-silver-volatility-using-options-343/
3. Oil is overpriced in relation to natural gas (see chart above). This opens up the opportunity for a long nat gas/short oil trade.
4. As you can see from the chart above, there are still a few companies who are making profits at the price levels: http://images.angelpub.com/2009/14/1931/nelder-eac-2-4-1-09.jpg
I haven't researched them yet individually, but they could offer tremendous leverage to rising prices as they enter profitability way earlier then the big producers like Chesapeake Energy.
 
swissaustrian, again you come up with a timely and interesting thread. Thanks for this contribution!

I too think there is real opportunity w/ natural gas. I KNOW that we here in the USA could pick up some low-hanging fruit re running some of our fleets on natgas.

They do it is PERU fer chrissakes... And Peru is poor. Much of the Lima small-car taxi fleet vehicles run on Peruvian natgas (I am NOT sure if it is processed somehow, probably). One of our employees HAS a car that runs on natgas. It took about two - three years to get enough gas stations in the city to meet the demand (there were LONG LINES during that transition), but they are all set now. I am told that it is more economical to use natgas as a fuel, as it is so cheap there as well.

Here in America, we could take some steps that would not require HUGE capital investments. We could mandate all city (of over a million people, say) vehicles to run on natgas. Or all trucks on the Interstate Highways as well. All taxis. Probably more "low-hanging fruit" as well.

OK... How to play it as investments, well, I would be looking at the low cost producers as per your chart, because who knows how long the prices will stay down. I do not "do" rank speculation any more (having lost money, not THAT much though) in options, etc. I just never could do it successfully, so I stay out of that casino.

But, the HIGH COST producers will benefit MORE (as a multiple of the new vs. old profits) if the prices go up a lot. So maybe just buy them all (that would also lessen "company risk", eg, Enron) or at least, say, small positions in 3 - 5 of them.

just my $.02!
 
So shale gas / fracking seems to be a major development for nat gas availability.

A couple of years ago we were being told that most of these plays were having their potential overstated and that they were depleting quickly, necessitating continuous drilling and fracking, so high recovery costs and short life.

And then there were all those boats and terminals being constructed to move nat gas around the world ......

Just where is this commodity headed ?
Is it a short term solution or is there really 100 years supply available ?
 
The company I'd consider buying is Southwestern Energy Co (SWN.N):
- They have the lowest cost structure in the US (about $ 2/Mcf for finding & development & lifting)
- one the lowest debts (30% of capital) in the industry.
- They don't pay a dividend.
- These strengths are reflected in their p/e, however. It's at about 26 if you count on NG at the current prices (assuming an average price of $2.50 for 2012). Every 25 cents in higher average prices push earnings per share up by 10 cents (acceleration the further they're away from their break even).
They're the 8th largest producer in the US.
http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/overview?symbol=SWN.N
Here's an investor presentation:
http://www.swn.com/investors/LIP/latestinvestorpresentation.pdf



Short comparison to Chesapeake Energy (CHK), the largest solely NG focused producer (Chevron is no1) in the US:
- CHK's debt to capital is about 60% (double of SWN)
- They pay a small dividend (1.43% yield)
- Cost is about $ 4/Mcf (for finding & development & lifting) compared to $ 2 for SWN.
- They're making profits only due to hedging activities without disclosing how they hedge. Looks fishy to me. (SWN is disclosing how they hedge, mainly with swaps at $ 5 for 50 % of their production)
- They seem to be more crony and lobbying oriented, including a visit to the company by Obama under the "clean energy" label.
- All of this is reflected in the much lower p/e which is at about 17 assuming NG at $ 2.5 for 2012.

Conclusion:
I'll buy some SWN on a dip, because I'm expecting NG prices to reach it's long term average at $ 5 in the medium term (2+ years). At these prices SWN's p/e is about 14 (excluding increases in production and potentially lower production costs).

Seems to be a good long term play on the sector.
 
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I'll take a look at SWN. Buy maybe 200 shares, throw it into the closet and not look at it again for two years...
 
Holy cow, NG is down another 12% today. technically it's close to oversold now. I'm gonna update you guys when I'm buying the dip and SWN stocks:

 
I don't think the bull case is as strong for nat gas as something like silver or gold. That being said, we are most likely at an extreme. I'll be waiting for a good entry for a trade.
 
Here's a chart about the arbitrage opportunity for US exporters which shows that overseas prices for NG are substantially higher than in the US:
 
The stuff is kind of expensive to ship overseas - there's a shortage of LNG boats to do it. The arbitrage opportunity might therefore be an illusion. I think I heard that the reason there's so much oversupply just now is that there were a lot of drill leases that were use it or lose it - so they got going in advance of demand. We'll have to see how it plays out I suppose. They can of course just store it in the ground till demand is there.
 

Yes, there has been overinvestment in drilling. The US has still been a net importer of NG in 10-2011 however:


As far as I can see the massive inventories are also beeing caused by:
a. the very mild winter: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...0-offers-no-solace-to-natural-gas-market.html
b. Shrinking industrial demand (about 1/3 of demand) due to the weak economic activity.

As far as shipping is concerned:
The shortage of LNG tankers in combination with the arbitrage opportunity has caused LNG shipping fees to double/tripple in just 1-2 years.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...hips-sees-frozen-gas-beating-oil-freight.html
LNG shipping is now the most profitable sector of the whole shipping industry: http://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-...trys-Most-Profitable-Sector-LNG-Shipping.html
This tells me that one can make a profit from shipping LNG overseas, because otherwise foreigners wouldn't pay these high fees and US companies wouldn't sell.
The very high profitability should also cause investment in new tankers and shipping terminals. Some estimates say tanker demand might double until 2020: http://emergingmoney.com/strategy-2...and-is-lifeline-for-tanker-fleet-uso-sea-ung/

One thing is for sure imho: prices won't stay below production cost forever.
 
No, prices never do stay below costs for long - probably not even long enough to build boats - those take awhile. It would be nice to see more uptake of NG, or maybe a process to "refine" it into heavier molecules, like propane, that are a lot easier to handle and transport. People in the US are getting pretty sick of pipeline projects, especially for short lived resources...I could tell stories on how I manage to get one stopped in its tracks here. It was going to be a very bad deal for us, and not actually that great for the gas guys either.
 
Wow, NG is up 8 cents on the FED's economic outlook. Such a joke.
EDIT: no it's 11 cents.
 
Hi guys,

As for converting the fleets to run on gas, instead of gasoline - it is very popular in poorer countries (people seems to be much more entrepreneurial, if the necessity dictates it). In Poland for example, the order of the day couple of years ago was LPG conversions (Liquid Petroleum Gas), which is easier to handle (doesn't require as much pressure or cryo, to liquify and been kept as liquid). So the vehicle tanks are much smaller and cheaper as well (quite popular are toroidal ones, that fit into the spare tire compartments). I think that NG is called CNG on our side of the pond, and it also has been tried on bigger vehicles (trucks, city buses - even in my hometown Gdynia there are experimental buses running on CNG)

But the thing is, the difference in price at the pump, is mainly the difference in the govt levies being paid on these different fuels! I do not know how it is in US, but I remember when polish govt sniffed the money (after well over a million vehicles were converted to run bi-fuel - gasoline and LPG - simple and relatively cheap conversion, could be literally done in any chop shop), they started gradually increasing duty on it, so right now it is not such a no-brainer anymore - depending how big is your yearly mileage, and how many years you plan to use the vehicle.

I've been reading a financial report recently, that was also praising NG in US as the next big thing.

Another trade idea - if there is oversupply in the US, and the stuff needs to be shipped around - invest in the shipping companies. Least Exxon-Valdes type of events, they seem to be in very strong position - there is a shortage of tankers, and new ones are not exactly coming online every month.
 
Another article claiming the shale gas isn't as INexpensive as many might think, supporting my findings that NG is trading below production cost. If these findings are true, we might see a wave of bankruptcies amoung US NG companies:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/26/us/26gas.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

The leaked emails can be found here: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/us/natural-gas-drilling-down-documents-4-intro.html?ref=us
 
I'm thinking nat gas is a good long play right now if it is selling for below production costs. Eventually, producers will do what they have to do to slow production to increase demand and prices, so a bunch of cheap long contracts might be the best play.
 
Rick Santelli (CNBC) yesterday was doing his reporting from Houston at some place where they were converting an F-150 to running on NatGas.

Bushi is right about NatGas being popular in poorer countries. LOTS of cars in Peru run on it, including the car of our Sales Manager.

They could do it here... Just need to man-up and build the infrastructure. Will they?
 
Actually, the infrastructure is already there, it's just a lot more sparse than the ubiquitous gas station on every corner. You can get propane in a lot of places, just not where you would normally go.
 
After falling for months, NG has finally turned arround somewhat - against a very bearish sentiment in commodity markets overall.
Chesapeake - the biggest US producer - has been subject to all kinds of scandals in the meantime. Even the big oil producers like Chevron have been suffering from the low NG prices.

Anyway, NG is already 15% higher from the time when I started this thread 10 weeks ago It had dropped another 15% first, however :flail: Chart is as of yesterday, NG surged another 2.5% today. It's now short term overbought.

 
Propane is != natgas, which is methane and not easily liquified (takes lots more pressure), which is why you don't see natgas used in transport so much. It takes a much heavier tank to hold the pressure for less net energy than propane (you cannot make it a liquid at room temperature at all). It takes energy to convert methane to propane, and there's hydrogen left over if you do.
Propane is CH3-CH2-CH3, and methane is CH4. There's not a lot of market for expensive hydrogen out there at present.

I believe the reason for cheap natgas has been use it or lose it leasing policies, so wells had to be drilled or lose the lease, and getting some back is better than nothing - they're betting it will go up to cover costs at some point or they will stop selling it and force that to happen. Interesting economic dislocation - caused by gov as usual.
 
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Hi,
New to this board. I'm a trader.

I dipped in myself a couple weeks ago after reading that the big producers are no longer hedging and John Arnold retiring.

RSI says oversold now but i'll be accumulating more contracts on dips.

Charles Nenner has a buy recommendation on NG as long as no close below 2.44 if any of you follow his cycle work..

One point i haven't heard discussed anywhere is the possibility that record storage capacity utilization could actually be a positive for prices..

Natgas companies sitting on record amounts of their product, paying for storage have incentive to get these prices higher, shutting in rigs (more every week).. The fact that they've stopped hedging says alot. These aren't rash decisions by amateurs but rooms full of experienced energy analysts putting 2 and 2 together..

Get these prices higher by killing production off and cash in..

Vermont banned fracking this week. Vermont produces almost no natgas but symbolic..
 
Welcome abord JJSF. Good to have your take on things.

Do you see an embryonic nat gas equiv of OPEC developing ?

Reckon fracking is like GM crops, ie too profitable to ban, so at best will get a few new regs and some serious PR ..............
 
It's early voting time right now here in Texas and every single candidate for Railroad Commissioner (unfortunately titled position that actually oversees/regulates energy industries in Texas) is a proponent of fracking.
 
Now that got my attention JJSF.

If the majors are rushing to get export terminals built ( cant see why an import terminal should be much different though ) then there really is a surplus of hydro carbons in the US.
What sort of time scale would one of these terminals be planned for in terms of life expectancy ?

What impact does this have on peak oil thinking ?

In the US ?
And everywhere else ?
 

I'm not sure it's so much an oversupply of hydrocarbons in general but rather NG..
 
NG briefly traded over $ 3 on friday when profit taking and technical selling kicked in. Still, the uptrend which started on May 23rd is very clear. Short term there could be a few more downdays, but longterm the chart looks bullish:

 
Ok, after buying NG at $2.33 on March 12th (see op of this thread), I'm now selling at $3.77 today.

+61% in 7 1/2 months is not so bad

Chart is as of yesterday:
 
nice one, SA, congrats :clap:

...now, if one of good old boys traders around, could correct me in my thinking - I am trying to learn something with regards to technical analysis, based on these two last charts you have provided, SA:

-it seems to me, that if the 50 days MA is below 200 days MA, it means that stock is technically oversold, and might be ready for move upwards - am I right?
-even more so, if the spot price starts to move (and stay) above 50days MA
-also, the direction in which 200 MA is moving would be an indicator of long term trends, especially around the moments where it starts to slow down the move and starts to "bend" in the opposite direction.


(very curious about my thinking, if it is correct or not - my thinking is, that 200 days MA could be treated like a "baseline" price, with all the possible volatility averaged out, and 50 days MA would then be the indicator of below/above the "average" price)


...of course, understanding that production costs are higher than the current market price for gas definitely helps in picking technical bottom
 
It tends to be so, but the best indicators for "oversoldness" are the RSI (upper part of the chart) and the MACD (lower part)

More about RSI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_strength_index
on MACD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MACD

Yes, the direction of the 200dma is a pretty good long term indicator.

Yes, I missed the bottom by about 15% or so. I got a little worse after my investment. NG briefly dropped below $2 in late April
 
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