PM Quantities? How much? What's your advice?

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How much AG & AU should I stack? I've been getting this question A LOT for the past 3 months. I think some may be trying to find out how much I have, which I never divulge. But I think most are honestly trying to set goals. I've been advising people, between 1000-2000oz of AG & one or two pounds of AU. But now with AG over 100 and now AU breaking over 5000, that almost sounds like an impossible goal for a lot of people. I'm thinking maybe setting a lower more realistic goal like 500oz AG, and 8oz AU.

I know it really depends on the person, where they live, how old they are, and their financial situation.

Please, this isn't meant to get you to cough up what your stack looks like. Simply put,..... What's your advice to a new or fairly new stacker?


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All I can scrape together, is in metals.

Because nothing else is safe, now.

I don't think I have enough, but that's true of any resource right now. What will NOT happen, is another rug pull that costs me $30k, not again.

And in fact, metal values have appreciated about as good as stawk indices. Can't beat that...
 
Deny, deflect, lie and claim anybody who buys PM's in an idiot.



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I agree and support you in everything you posted. But that's not what I'm asking. I have grown kids and I have friends who've been casual buyers who have gotten the bug lately.

What advice would you offer?

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% of liquid assets. In normal times a 20% location is good. In bull market times like these whatever% they feel comfortable with. I'm at 90% liquid assets in pm's or mining rn.
 
Back in 2008, when I became a ‘conspiracy theorist’ as a result of chucking out the television, there used to be a chart floating around, that tracked gold versus money issued. The visual was a good way to understand how the pog was effectively driven by printing. The graph fell out of favour because the controllers needed to convince the world that the us$ was better than gold and we saw more and more manipulation, which was always denied and mocked by mainstream.
I was always convinced that this chart would correct at some point and as banks around 2008 were looking shaky, I went ‘all in’
In 2011. Then a year or so later, had to watch gold drop 30% in a couple of weeks and take 4 years just to get back to break even ……
Now I still reckon that pog / money issued graphic is valid but looking today, pog is getting ahead and a repeat of 2012 is possible

So based on this, my advice is to go all in if you can wait possibly 10 years for things to work out, cos that graph will soon be showing a lot more money printing but pog may once again lag in response.
And if you might need to cash in quickly, to get through challenging times, then park what you can afford to take a hit on ( you cant loose it all )
No no no, this time it’s different ……. Hmm place yer bets .

I am allowing for a repeat of 2011 in the near term with the likelihood of it playing out a lot quicker ie months rather than years .
 
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I agree and support you in everything you posted. But that's not what I'm asking. I have grown kids and I have friends who've been casual buyers who have gotten the bug lately.

What advice would you offer?

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That is a tough one. Let me be perfectly clear - I am not a financial planner, even though I play one on the InterWebZ.

I HAVE lived through this before, 2008.

AND...I HAVE made the mistake of not staying liquid enough. Most recently, I sold a couple of K-rands to fund my vacation trip in September. That was fine, of course, since there was a lot of dollar-appreciation this year; but in years past, after temporary gigs wound down, I had to sell various holdings. At the same price (gold) or steep drops (silver) from what I paid.

So I basically lost money, counting the vigorish each way, on those deals. There were times I was questioning my own judgment - all this money-printing, and consumer prices aren't really rising!...which was where we were at ten years ago.

We now know it was because so much New Fiat was going overseas, sometimes on pallets, sometimes in Somalis' briefcases. Kept the money from flooding retail markets and causing prices to launch.

But now it is.

Back to the question: How much? I think the standard Prepper answer is a good one: Have enough CASH to last 2-6 months, depending on situation. Yes, cash loses buying power. Yes, money-market funds at the bank pay enough to ALMOST hold even with CPI increases. But when TSHTF, the first thing that's gonna go, is your bank.

So. Cash. I favor $50 notes. Work for three months of living expenses.

And conventional credit cards. Keep them CLEAR of balances (yeah, I sound like Dave Ramsey). In a minor event, they'll work. They'll work a lot better if you're not maxed out.

Once you have that, start buying. The price is ugly. Can anyone see it going down? The last major retrench Gold had, was when Reagan announced it was Morning-In-America. Does it look like morning, now? You see the clean cities, effective government, employment opportunities of 1984? I don't.

I would tell your new stacker to focus on Gold. Silver is a bit volatile - and its buyers are less economically stable, less likely to be long. AND silver is also an industrial metal, with one more way to shift demand, one way or another.
 
... What's your advice to a new or fairly new stacker?

Everybody's situation and goals are different, so I don't think there is a universal answer. Folks should accumulate until they feel comfortable with their stack (goals - as a % of portfolio - may vary). They should not accumulate more than they can reasonably secure (ie. if they got big stacks, they better invest in a proper secure storage schema and use common sense about OpSec).
 
I always thought your weight in silber would be a good goal. (plus the wife's weight also, if you have one)
Gold — ?
Gold is king's money and you will need to spend it like a king. (which you ain't)
So small bits like 1/10 ouncers would be my target, say about 25 ounces of them would be a good goal.
 
Gold is king's money and you will need to spend it like a king. (which you ain't)
That's an interesting idea. How do you mean? That purchases will be awkward for smaller buys, like farmers' markets?

Remember the strategy. Gold is for Afterward. Lead is for the right-now, and silver is for near-future needs.
 
Like buyin slaves and such.
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Hey, hey!

Fantasies of White Slavery...blonde former SJWs, now zombified by the Jab and collapse of their fantasy world...feeding me crushed grapes.

Unfortunately I won't be able to take it further. Old age SUX....

Seriously. I think anyone who immediately sets himself up as a king like that, is gonna wind up cannon-fodder and compost. Julius Caeser, even, had to work up the ranks...as conscript, then centurian, then general.
 
CJ, I don't mean wimmins slaves, they would be useless except to entertain my security contingent.
I would need a couple of brawny type males for bodyguards and some wimps for labor.
I ought to be able to last a couple weeks…
 
CJ, I don't mean wimmins slaves, they would be useless except to entertain my security contingent.
I would need a couple of brawny type males for bodyguards and some wimps for labor.
I ought to be able to last a couple weeks…
That gets complicated. See again my Julius Caesar comment.

We will have to re-organize, and those who lack it, are gonna have to resign their simple minds to their defeat and lesser status.

If you try to put them in harness too early, they'll chimp out...

These things take time. Just as some calamities cannot be avoided, some developments cannot be hurried.
 
its a very individualized question...my view is PMs is where i store excess wealth....... so i provide debt free, food, lodging, transportation, and other goods n services first including entertainment .....then want emergency and opportunity cash available as needed, .......the rest goes to pms ........other tax deferred savings vehicles are separate

i guess im saying take care of life first debt free ......then all the rest goes to PMs

seems young people want the get rich quick schemes so its hard to get them to think along those lines so any goal is better than no goal
 
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