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Texas Governor Orders Arrest of Democrats Who Left State​

(Bloomberg) -- Texas Governor Greg Abbott ordered the arrest of Democratic lawmakers who left the state to block a controversial vote on new congressional maps.

“Texas House Democrats abandoned their duty to Texans,” Abbott said in a statement Monday. “I ordered the Texas Department of Public Safety to locate, arrest and return to the House chamber any member who has abandoned their duty to Texans.”

The governor’s move followed a vote by the remaining lawmakers in the Texas House of Representatives to authorize arrest warrants, which don’t carry any criminal charges and can’t be enforced across state lines. Republican lawmakers proposed a redistricting plan last week that Democrats describe as a gerrymander designed to give more seats in the US Congress to the GOP.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...s-who-left-state/ar-AA1JTllq?ocid=socialshare
 
Salivate Metal

In this one Sal talks to Lior Gantz about a bunch of different subjects. It's interesting and a bit on the political side. Nothing to see, can listen in one tab, play around the forum in a different tab. It's basically an opinion piece so take it fwiw and dyodd.



The Future of Silver & Gold In An Unstable World! Will The Fed Survive Trump?​

Aug 3, 2025
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Martin Armstrong EXPOSES the Hidden Cycles – Part 2 (Watch Before It’s Gone)​

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Follow the money! ALWAYS follow the money!


BECAUSE TRUMP WON:

Colbert is FIRED.

Howard Stern is FIRED.

Joy Reid is FIRED.

Jim Acosta is gone.

Neil Cavuto is gone.

Lester Holt is gone.

Chuck Todd is gone.

Chris Wallace is gone.

PBS is defunded.

NPR is defunded.

USAID is gone.

WHITE PEOPLE are back in commercials.

Morbidly obese black women are appearing less frequently in commercials.

Disney removed a teenage trans girl from their show, “Win or Lose.”

Black Captain America TANKED.

ABC had to give Trump $17 million for lying about him.

AP had to cut back 8% of its workforce.

Univision had to layoff several hundred workers.

CNN ratings are in a week-to-week death spiral.

So are MSNBC's.

Wolf Blitzer and Jake Tapper were denied raises.

Rachel Madcow had to take a pay cut.

Justin Trudeau resigned.

AND THE GULF OF MEXICO IS NOW THE GULF OF AMERICA!

What’s your favorite TRUMP-DESTROYED thing on this list?
 
Nothing to see, can listen in one tab, play around the forum in a different tab.

Economic Hardship, Palantir, And Drones Over New Jersey​


Aug 6, 2025 Doug Casey's Take
In this episode, Doug and Matt discuss the Federal Reserve's proposal to revalue the U.S. gold reserves and the implications of such a move. They delve into Trump's recent firing of the Department of Labor head and the current state of the U.S. economy, focusing on the housing market and the mounting student loan debt crisis. The conversation shifts to the decline of the Boy Scouts and the changing dynamics of youth activities. They also discuss the release of their upcoming book, which offers alternatives to traditional college education. The episode concludes with discussions about immigration issues and the alarming advancements in surveillance technology.
Time stamp / chapters located below the vid on youtube.

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Homeland Security removes age limits for ICE recruits to boost hiring for Trump deportations​

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Department of Homeland Security said Wednesday that it is removing age limits for new hires at the agency responsible for immigration enforcement, as it aims to expand hiring after a massive infusion of cash from Congress.

The department said in a news release that it would waive age limits for new applicants so “even more patriots will qualify to join ICE," the agency responsible for finding, arresting, detaining and removing people who are in the U.S. illegally.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/h...ump-deportations/ar-AA1K1HwW?ocid=socialshare

 
 

Here’s how day labor works in Southern California.

There’s a guy, likely named ‘Juan,’ who is a citizen or a permanent resident. Juan has 8-10 different companies that he ‘runs’ in gardening, farming, home repair, construction, clean outs, etc.

Juan will quote a client $40-100 an hour, then go to Home Depot and hire a bunch of illegals for $10-20 an hour to do the work. Juan sits in his $100k truck, eating, sleeping and hooking up tomorrow’s gig while the illegals toil in the muck.

Some would call Juan a business man. In reality, Juan is a human trafficker.
 
Why?

Because they are the WEF's pawns and cannon-fodder.

And much of the current government, including all of the Deep State, is in Davos Man's pocket.
 
Nothing to see, can listen in one tab, play around the forum in a different tab. As usual, take everything fwiw and dyodd.

American Nihilism​

Aug 9, 2025 Doug Casey's Take
In this episode, Doug discusses a range of topics including the rise of nihilism among young people, the best ways to store money for UK citizens, the feasibility of a US-EU trade deal, and the impact of billionaires and their investments. He also touches on the significance of tattoos, the challenges of modern banking systems, and the importance of nuclear power for tech giants. Furthermore, Doug shares insights on various locations for expats, the current political climate, and strategies for managing wealth and assets.

1:00:42

00:00 Introduction and First Question
00:14 Exploring Nihilism in Youth
05:16 Storing Money for UK Citizens
07:02 US-EU Trade Deal Analysis
10:15 Sovereign Banking and Local Credit
14:14 The Trend of Tattoos
19:48 Tech Giants and Nuclear Power
27:48 The Future of Politics and Government
32:21 The Dynamics of Giving and Receiving Advice
34:11 Exploring the Concept of Irania in South Africa
37:23 Comparing Uruguay and Panama for Expatriates
41:05 Warren Buffet's Market Strategy and Gold
42:13 Storing Gold and Silver as Collateral
43:49 The Nature of Governments and Voting
46:37 The Role and Movement of Billionaires
52:43 Healthcare and Safety in Uruguay
57:14 Logistics of Moving Abroad
01:00:15 Conclusion and Upcoming Plans




 

Hello "Pastor" Talarico,

You've certainly made a name for yourself; the same Pastor James Talarico who told Texans there are "at least six sexes," who frequently invokes Jesus as a political prop (once suggesting voting for Trump meant we had "forgotten Jesus"), and who is allegedly a rising star in the Democratic Party.

You also have deep ties to Powered By People, the group under investigation for aiding Democrats in fleeing Texas. They have been one of your top donors historically, plus your current Chief of Staff was one of their directors.

So forgive me if I see your “Come and take it” as pure grandstanding. Your claim that "the seat doesn't belong to ... me" may be truer than you realize, because there’s a real chance it won't belong to you much longer. Because if @KenPaxtonTX’s investigations bear fruit, the only seat you may hold could be behind bars.
 
It's true... you'll soon discover if you haven't been paying attention


It sounds STRANGE when people first hear it...

...that there is a globalist cult that runs the modern Western world...

...a cult that has had total control for a very long time...

...and this includes running most of the world's illegal and criminal trafficking networks via proxies that are created...

...proxies that are openly criminal cartels and rogue nation states...

but behind the scenes it's a group of super-wealthy oligarch families that make up the globalist cult that are dictating what happens in the world...

...carefully setting up military wars/conflicts that are sustained for years, if not decades, to protect/expand the criminal trafficking networks...

...networks that traffic in humans, drugs, weapons, human organs, children, etc...

...and so the inescapable conclusion is that until Donald J. Trump somehow forced his way into power in DC not just once, but TWICE...

...the US government was an owned local affiliate and subsidiary of this globalist cult...

...and that means in a very real sense, the world's biggest human trafficker, arms smuggler and drug smuggling cartel is and always has been...the United States government.

If you'd told someone this 25 years ago, they'd have looked at you like you were a raving lunatic.

Now?

As The Great Awakening continues apace?

You don't sound all that crazy any more...
 
yep


As I posted yesterday, this peace deal is a much bigger event than most people know.
The reason that these two countries have been at war for 35 years, is because the CIA controlled Armenia.
Their installed puppets were going to war over a very narrow corridor of land that went through Azerbaijan.
That strip of land, was the pipeline for CIA/Hezbollah heroin trafficking from Afghanistan, through Iran and then into Europe via that small corridor.

It is no coincidence, that on the exact same day that Trump announced that he is unleashing the military to go after CIA controlled drug cartels, that he also did a very public peace deal between these two countries.

Trump isn’t just going to end drug trafficking into the U.S.
He’s also ending drug trafficking into Europe.

If you want to know why Armenia was so important and why Q included Armenia with rogue nuclear states like North Korea and Iran, here’s my Substack article from quite a while ago:

 
If I can sprain my rotator cuff, patting myself on the back...

...what have I said all along about Leftists and NPC voters, and others aimed on a suicidal course? And of course others, including one with orange hair.

I believe it was Ayn Rand who said, "Check your premises." Early and often. I was anything BUT a Trump supporter early on, ten years ago. I grudgingly voted for him; and frankly, I was pleasantly surprised.

Until Operation Warp Speed. Okay...aside from the catastrophic outcome of giving Big Pharma such a blanket pass, controlled as it is by Club-of-Rome technocrats and Elites...I can understand why he made that mistake. I've expounded on it at length.

What, then, explains Trump's compleat 180 from his previous person? He's wacky for war, now. Gomer Graham is his BFF. All that's left there, is to make John Bolton head of the misnamed Defense Department.

Epstein records erased, purged from the Wayback Machine, and Trump does a poor, who, me? for the press. I didn't do it; nobody saw me do it, you can't prove I did it, it never happened.

And mean time (I put it that way intentionally, it is a mean time) we got the One Bastard Bill he was pushing endlessly. Spending cuts "someday." Money for Big Tech and the Surveillance Industrial Complex, NOW.

And a backdoor CBDC. Who was the BIG enemy of CBDCs? Banksters. With Fedcoin, the whole reason for the Dimon Bank, JPMChase, disappears. Jamie Dimon wasn't going to be tossed out without a fight.

He got cut in. PRIVATIZE CBDCs...now, PRIVATE bank digital currencies. Limited to chartered (Establishment-approved) banks, but otherwise, undistinguishable from CBDCs. Programmable, but not by plebes - by the Elites, to control the masses.

So the Deep State just partnered up with Big Finance, as they did with Big Pharma.

You still think Trump is different? The only difference is, motivation. He's either being bribed or coerced. He's not going along out of conviction, but the end result is the same.

Check your premises. And keep checking. There's a whole lotta shape-shifting going on.
 
Until Operation Warp Speed. Okay...aside from the catastrophic outcome of giving Big Pharma such a blanket pass, controlled as it is by Club-of-Rome technocrats and Elites...I can understand why he made that mistake. I've expounded on it at length.
GROK:
"Operation Warp Speed was initiated by the Trump administration, announced on May 15, 2020. President Donald Trump tasked the Department of Health and Human Services, led by Secretary Alex Azar, and the Department of Defense with spearheading the effort. Dr. Moncef Slaoui was appointed as the chief scientific adviser, and General Gustave Perna as the chief operating officer.

Operation Warp Speed was a U.S. government initiative launched in May 2020 to accelerate the development, manufacturing, and distribution of COVID-19 vaccines, therapeutics, and diagnostics. Led by the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Department of Defense (DoD), it aimed to deliver 300 million doses of a safe and effective vaccine by January 2021. The program partnered with private companies like Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson, providing billions in funding to fast-track vaccine development while maintaining safety standards. It also streamlined clinical trials, manufacturing, and distribution logistics. By December 2020, two vaccines (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) received Emergency Use Authorization, a key milestone. The initiative was praised for its speed but faced criticism for distribution challenges and transparency issues."


I know a PhD in genetics who swears the jab works as designed.

I know all the stories about adverse reactions, but until 'peer reviewed' papers prove otherwise it's deemed to be a success.

That's just the way it is!

Not saying I agree with it, but that's the mountain to cross!! Until some entity does said study it is what it is!

Just think about how many people still believe the pandemic was a natural occurrence!

and then there is this:

 
I know a PhD in genetics who swears the jab works as designed.

I know all the stories about adverse reactions, but until 'peer reviewed' papers prove otherwise it's deemed to be a success.

That's just the way it is!
Do you think Trump designed those Jabs?

Or, do you think, as I do, that he got hoodwinked - as I've said at length, that he came from an era where Science was seen as magic, where Salk and Sabin and Benjamin Spock, were going to revolutionize health and family structure?

As I said....check your premises. I can and I have. Trump lacks that ability.

That he got buffaloed in that chaos, is no shame on him. The shame comes that he cannot admit it, much less legally react to the horrific crime.
 
Trump didn't design the jabs.

Looking back (aka Monday morning QB-ing) I'm not sure he understood (would any of us?) that it was a bioweapon designed to unseat his presidency.

He responded better than ANYONE could have by mounting a government operation to get ahead of whatever was going on. Telephone meetings with all the governors comes to mind. Juxtapose that response to Biden taking care of the E. Palestine disaster, or the Hurricane disaster in the Appalachians.

Remember? We ALL implicitly trusted the medical profession and their Hippocratic Oath. NEVER did we believe it would be turned into a weapon on its own. That was the mentality of the nation prior to covid. Only in hindsight do we now know that something nefarious went down.

Did Trump get 'Hoodwinked"? Did anyone else get 'Hoodwinked'? Sure, but I don't hold that against him. Remember he was Danial in the lion's den at the time with deep state actors were all around him! He stood his ground, surveyed the lay of the land and learned from the experience. Who among us would have taken the beating he did only to return 4 years later to do it all over again, BUT this time on his terms?

I didn't take the jab. Why? Probably because I'm a contrarian by nature?

It's called The Great Awakening for a reason. Just look at what we now know vs what we didn't know in 2015!

Why should he admit anything? To please whom? Shame? LOL!

I look at what he did then and compare to what he's done in 8 months despite all the pushback from the DS. He came back guns a-blazing and is kicking assets!

There are a lot more changes ahead that will blow our minds. Of course if one followed 'Q' the path ahead is clearly laid out. I'm not concerned in the least. I already know where we're heading.

Grace is what is needed.
 
^^^

We shall see.

I'm defensive about this all, because the NPCs all join in, now as the Jab is coming to be understood as a fraud...that it's all Orange-Man-Bad, simply because he was IN OFFICE when this bio-weapon (obviously worked on for over a decade) was sprung on the masses.

That's not the answer. Nor is the answer Trump's answer - to deny and deflect and ignore. He's being as stupid as the NPCs attacking him.

I didn't take the poison, either - because my spidey-senses were up. Because, right off, I knew I wasn't going to be first in line - the Swine Flu debacle taught me THAT, anyway. I saw how they artificially made it hard to get, at first - stimulating demand, using ugly aspects of human psychology. Then, opened the gates for the masses. WHILE IGNORING ugly side effects (nurse Tiffany Dover, aka Tiffany Ponte, now deceased, her grave found in her maiden name, while Dustin Dover, her husband, bought an expensive home).

Those crude manipulations made me wonder...while all the while, hearing on discussion boards about "genetic modification" and mercury and what "lipid nanoparticles" might be. And then...BLANK INSERTS IN THE JAB SHIPMENTS?

When they started offering donuts, then gift certificates, and then money...and then threatening Refusniks...that's when I knew something was up. NEVER have a population been punished for declinding a "vaccine." Not even for smallpox. And the justification, was nonsensical, anti-science. MY not getting Jabbed doesn't affect the health of those who ARE jabbed - if the Jab was truly a preventative, which it clearly was not.

So...observation, consideration, critical-thinking...a change of premises. I used to own Big Pharma stonk. Fortunately I sold (at a big profit) long before this. Because I'd have a real moral quandary if I still held some.

As for Q...I don't believe it. Not a bit of it. There's no plan in action, here....maybe God's plan, but not some scheming comic-book operation.
 
I see you too have been paying attention as have I!

Here's the thing about 'Q' that to me is important.

The number 17 keeps coming up over and over in all kinds of venues. Trump gets a football jersey... #17. 17 generals standing behind him when he tells the press 'Do you know what this is?' "The calm before the storm." Trump mentions "17 times I've been to NY." (I forget the exact wording but the msg was as clear as day to Q aficionados!).

Andrew Johnson was the 17th POTUS and the first portrait hung in the Oval Office by Trump! Not to mention that AJ killed the 2nd National Bank of the US (2nd attempt of international bankers to gain control of the finances of the US.) They attempted his life but the story goes both cap n ball pistols misfired. The next portrait hung in the Oval Office was Lincoln who created a competing currency to the international banking cartel the Green-backed Dollar. It's said they had a lot of green ink available.

Extrapolating these two portraits (a shot across the bow of the international bankers) I come up with Trump is going to kill the Federal Reserve. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent was appointed as interim IRS commissioner. As you know the IRS is the thug collection arm of the FED. It was created right after the FED in 1913. There's already talk of eliminating the IRS/FED. I knew this way back when I followed the Q phenomenon. I didn't exactly 'know' it was going to happen, but there was hints that it might. FFWD to today and now stuff is making more sense which is why Q said "Future proves past". When I first heard that I scratched my head thinking "Wut??" Same sense I had when Trump told the MSM "You are fake news." Now I understand!!


GROK
List Instances of the Number 17 in Relation to Trump:
  1. 17th President Connection (Historical Context): Donald Trump is the 45th and 47th President of the United States (serving 2017–2021 and set to serve 2025–2029). There’s no direct link to the 17th president (Andrew Johnson), but some political analyses or social media discussions might draw parallels between Trump and past presidents, including the 17th, due to controversial tenures or impeachment (Johnson was impeached, as was Trump twice). This is a speculative connection but noted in some online discussions.
  2. January 6, 2021, Capitol Riot (17th Event Post-Election): The Capitol riot occurred on January 6, 2021, 17 days before Trump’s first term ended on January 20, 2021. While not explicitly tied to the number 17 in most reports, the timing could be referenced in analyses of his post-election actions.
  3. 17 States in Legal Actions (2020 Election): After the 2020 election, Trump and his campaign filed lawsuits in multiple states alleging voter fraud. A notable instance is a Texas-led lawsuit joined by 17 states, filed with the Supreme Court in December 2020, challenging election results in four battleground states. This case, Texas v. Pennsylvania, was dismissed, but the number 17 is directly tied to the states supporting Trump’s legal efforts.
  4. QAnon and the Number 17 (Conspiracy Theory): The number 17 is significant in QAnon circles because the letter “Q” is the 17th letter of the alphabet. Trump has been a central figure in QAnon narratives, with supporters often highlighting the number 17 in posts, events, or symbolism (e.g., 17 flags at a Trump rally or 17-second video clips). While Trump has not directly endorsed QAnon, the association persists in some online communities.
  5. 17th Floor of Trump Tower: Trump’s primary residence and business headquarters, Trump Tower in New York City, has specific floors tied to his operations. While his personal residence is on the top floors (66–68), some reports mention the 17th floor as part of the Trump Organization’s office space or related activities, though this is less prominent.
  6. 17 Golf Courses Owned by Trump: As of my knowledge cutoff, the Trump Organization owns or operates 17 golf courses worldwide, including properties like Trump National Doral and Trump Turnberry. This number is often cited in discussions of his business empire.
  7. Age 17 in Context of Family: Trump’s daughter, Tiffany Trump, was born in 1993. In 2010, when she was 17 years old, she began gaining public attention, including her debut at events tied to the Trump brand. This is a minor connection but relevant to family milestones.
  8. 17th Campaign Event or Rally (Hypothetical Count): Trump’s campaigns (2016, 2020, 2024) involved numerous rallies. While no specific source ties the 17th rally explicitly, it’s plausible that analyses of his campaign schedules (e.g., 17th rally in a cycle) could mention the number 17. This is speculative without exact data.
  9. 17 Mentions in Media or Posts (Symbolic): On platforms like X, users sometimes emphasize the number 17 in relation to Trump due to QAnon or other symbolic interpretations (e.g., 17 likes, 17 retweets, or 17-minute speeches). These are anecdotal but frequent in certain online spaces.
Summary:Here’s a tally of clear and speculative instances where the number 17 connects to Trump:
  • Confirmed Instances:
    • 17 states in the 2020 election lawsuit.
    • 17 golf courses owned by the Trump Organization.
    • QAnon’s use of 17 (symbolic, tied to “Q” as the 17th letter).
  • Speculative/Indirect Instances:
    • 17 days between January 6, 2021, and the end of his term.
    • 17th floor of Trump Tower (minor business reference).
    • Tiffany Trump at age 17 in 2010.
    • Potential references to 17th events, rallies, or symbolic mentions in media/X posts.
    • 17th president comparisons (rare, speculative).
Total Count: At least 3 confirmed instances (states, golf courses, QAnon) and up to 5 additional speculative connections, yielding 3–8 instances depending on context. The number 17 is most prominently tied to the election lawsuit and QAnon symbolism.Notes:
  • Without real-time access to X or web data, I can’t verify current mentions of 17 in recent posts or articles (e.g., specific rally counts or new symbolic uses). If you’d like, I can assume a hypothetical search and estimate further instances based on patterns (e.g., X posts often amplify QAnon’s 17 references).
  • If you have a specific context in mind (e.g., Trump’s 2024 campaign, a particular date, or numerology), please clarify, and I can refine the list.
  • The number 17’s prominence in QAnon-related discussions makes it likely to appear frequently in fringe online content, but I’ve kept this list grounded in verifiable or reasonably inferred connections.
Final Answer: The number 17 appears at least 3 times in direct relation to Trump (17 states in the 2020 lawsuit, 17 golf courses, QAnon’s 17th letter symbolism) and up to 5 more times in speculative contexts (January 6 timing, Trump Tower floor, Tiffany’s age, potential rally counts, 17th president analogies), for a total of 3–8 instances.


Then there is JFK's grave site:


Never mind that the 17th letter of the alphabet is "Q"!! There are too many 'coincidences' to be happenstance.

I think the Q saga is a military psyop at the highest level. It provides those who followed along from the gitgo an veiled insight into 'stuff' going on behind the scenes that isn't ready for prime time. The people have no clue because 80% of them are clueless. They rely on the MSM to inform them of reality when you and I know the opposite is true. Q has even suggested that they can't reveal all of it as the humanity wouldn't be able to handle it. I suspect Q is talking here about the pedophilia and Satan sacrificial human hunting parties by the elites?

There are Q 'bread crumbs' throughout the blogosphere. One just needs to grok their meaning when they appear, otherwise they are meaningless.

If you've followed the Bill Cosby trial - whom I think was the first to feel the wrath of a patient man - then there was the Hollywood fat man casting couch Harvey Winestein trial, Epstein's Island, P-Diddy and others too numerous to list. I don't think that was by accident. Same with Disney being associated with children and pedo executives.

In the end it doesn't matter if WE believe the Q saga... what matters is those who were involved in the coup and treasonous activity are also able to read 'Q' and realize the jig is up. I'm sure to them it reads like a who's who of deep state operations they were involved with?

"There's panic in DC" Q

Just wait til Trump cleans out DC!
 
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