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Old 01-09-2013, 07:20 PM   #1
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Silver Toning

Hey all -

Just bought some JM 100oz poured bars. They look much different than other stuff I have bought.

The silver appears to be "toned," with the sides and bottoms of the bar having an almost black appearance. It looks cool, but will it affect the value if I decide to resell them at some point?

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Old 01-09-2013, 08:03 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by jd1123 View Post:
Hey all -

Just bought some JM 100oz poured bars. They look much different than other stuff I have bought.

The silver appears to be "toned," with the sides and bottoms of the bar having an almost black appearance. It looks cool, but will it affect the value if I decide to resell them at some point?

Thanks.

http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/...psb5235e15.jpg


The look as if they were painted and it has chipped off. Did you purchase from a door stop company!? lol.

Me.. I would remove all uneven toning with E-Z-Est coin cleaner for the gorgeous shine. Want tone... combine petroleum jelly and sulfur, available as soil acidifier and tone it.

Bars like that are sweet! I traded all mine for 90% US coinage. Because that size is for generational investment, not transactions.

Again sweet!
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:24 PM   #3
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Yeah - I buy all sorts. These bars were offered at he same price as NTR machined bars, so I went with them for some variety. Got them from a reputable shop so I certainly hope they weren't used as doorstops. But I guess if you've got the type of money to have a silver doorstop, why the hell not?
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The silver appears to be "toned," with the sides and bottoms of the bar having an almost black appearance. It looks cool, but will it affect the value if I decide to resell them at some point?
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In general, tarnish does not affect resale (bullion) value - it can affect potential numismatic premiums. Paint on the other hand, might affect both.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:21 AM   #5
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In general, tarnish does not affect resale (bullion) value - it can affect potential numismatic premiums. Paint on the other hand, might affect both.
Dealer is telling me it is in fact paint and does not affect resale value. I don't know if I agree with him. Any way to remove the paint without ruining the bar?
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:56 PM   #6
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Dealer is telling me it is in fact paint and does not affect resale value. I don't know if I agree with him. Any way to remove the paint without ruining the bar?
My painters eyes thought it was. I would use a citrus based no voc paint remover.
Before such, toothpicks and toothbrush may separate paint from surface. Both are used with coins that are dug up. If you remove most or some melt the pieces and smell which type of paint it is. Then you could try LIFT-OFF paint remover. Sold at Homedepot and this stuff truly is magic. Does what is says without a doubt. I have back-up spray bottles off it in case it is rendered "unsafe". Or... in a pot you do not care about, boil it. Silver will not care. If wanting a fresh shine while boiling, add salt. This removes all tarnish, thus part of paints adherence capability. You could also try freezing the bar and with a wooden mallet, tapping the brittle paint off. Or a piece of wood(dowel) and hammer. Avoid sharp edges or points. Have fun, I would.

The only practice to avoid; abrasion.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:05 PM   #7
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d-Limonene will do it like '47 says. Then, take a chopstick and smash the fat end with a hammer so you have a stiff brush then soak the silver and use the "brush" to clean out the nooks.

Or, how about a heat gun? Heat won't hurt the metal but will waste the paint.
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