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Old 10-13-2014, 05:48 PM   #1
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Deflation First, Then Inflation?


Deflation followed by inflation is a theme I have read and heard about for a long time. But, now seems like we may be setting up a deflationary environment (using popular definition of "lower prices")...

Almost all bulk commodities (crude oil, gasoline, iron ore, steel (rebar), copper, corn, cotton, soybeans, etc., etc.) are down, esp. in 2014. 10-Year Treasury rates are down. The Baltic Dry Index is down.

So, there is a case for saying DEFLATION is or soon will be happening (gasoline prices at the pump ARE lower).

But, deflations usually don't last long...

"Deflation First, Then Inflation?"
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Old 10-14-2014, 07:51 AM   #2
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The Fed already signalled concern about a strong dollar. They will open up the QE spigots soon I think. The big problem is that yield chasers have no where else to go.
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It will be interesting to see what happens with the wheat prices, as although we are having record yields right now, the vomitoxin levels are too high in much of it for human consumption. I haven't heard if any of the corn is turning up with it. For now anyway.
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Originally Posted by Thomas Jefferson :
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered."

I've been wondering if the upcoming election has anyting to do with it too. High gas prices would get people more riled up to "throw the bums out". (and put identical ones in)
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:58 PM   #5
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Deflation is the ENEMY of TPTB, so they will have NO choice except to stoke the fires of inflation.
If you keep doing what you are doing, You will keep getting what you are getting.
If you don't like what you are getting, You must change what you are doing.

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Old 11-22-2014, 11:41 AM   #6
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Of course, it's fairly logical. Deflation will degenerate in hyperinflation. Precious metal prices will shoot sky high then:

But first, I think we will go deeper and deeper into the deflation.
We are sinking.

Watch the dollar gain strength, the oil falling etc.

It will eventually stop falling.

Instead of crying like a baby of how much you lost when you bought gold and silver, make sure you buy a LOT more when prices sink lower.
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Old 11-23-2014, 06:03 PM   #7
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Deflation for EVERYONE with income below 6 figures...does NOT exist.

The generalization of deflation; is a trap.

The world is flat as well... were you stand.

Just WHO is showing deflationary effects upon the lower 99%.

Gasoline is not signaling deflation, unless you are sitting in a pool of it,

trying to light your crack pipe.

Deflation will occur.

Currently it is most certainly NOT.
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