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Old 01-26-2012, 09:19 PM   #1
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Arrow TPTB game plan - NWO?

I am just wondering... what's cooking already, this is IMPOSSIBLE that TPTB are so oblivious to the facts that we are able to put together from the scraps of informations around. There surely IS some big gameplan in place, I am just wondering, how it looks like. The inevitable will come, and they MUST know it. I wonder what's the game plan then.

It seems that NWO is but the only logical conclusion.
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:43 PM   #2
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You express more faith in TPTB than I have. My experience in government doesn't point to them being all that smart, on average, or that good at making plans and executing them - much less adapting plans and execution to changing circumstances.
Of course, government is only part of TPTB, but it's an important one, the one allowed to be seen wielding power.

I think "they" are trying for controlled inflation, as they say, but a higher number from our POV than they say, at present.

And the real objective might be a dislocation of sorts during that inflation. It's never even across everything - but some types of unevenness benefit some people more than others.
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Old 01-27-2012, 07:05 AM   #3
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There are certainly indications that central banks and their agents have enagaged in curious decisions (for example: the Fed withdrew liquidity from the markets leading up to the 2008 crisis).

It's also pretty well established that the globalists (Bildebergers, etc.) want a "NWO" with global government. They (head of the CFR, Gordon Brown, et. al.) have been quite open in the press with their desires over the last couple of years (I don't feel like sourcing this right now, perhaps later).

I would say there are people who would like to capitalize on events to effect a NWO outcome, but I would stop well short of saying it's a unanimous, concerted and well planned effort. There are always a host of competing actors looking to effect disparate outcomes.
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Old 01-27-2012, 08:21 AM   #4
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We may be getting za lot colser to NOW as the Greek debacle threatens to topple the weaker nations of Europe in a disorderly default. When [not if] Greece defaults, what is to stop the rest of the peripherals from getting in line and declaring default? When the CDS are triggered on all of this, the fallout will be biblical.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:37 PM   #5
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ZH had a post yesterday that had a nice flowchart of Greek outcomes. Courtesy of ZH
TLDR: High chance of CDS trigger.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:54 PM   #6
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On the general subject of TPTB, I do recommend reading Buckminster Fuller's 'Critical Path'. It's an unusual view on human technological awakening, alternate history (i.e. trading routes and their origins) and charts discoveries (all elements) within the periodic table to human progress - that kind of thing. Wild but compelling.

The guy was an oddball, but a very bright, driven, determined and independent one. He was rubbing shoulders with the right kind of people. This is the same guy who tried to get world leaders to timeshare the electrical grid between the US and USSR, to lower the cost of power in daylight hours (but in the end wasn't allowed, obviously!).

Some of the issues he refers to are very ... familiar. Particularly his account of how he worked around the short term perceptions of hidden power structures to get some of his projects realized - by kicking the planned timeline decades into the future. The way he refers to this stuff while being mainly focused his scientific/engineering projects is remarkable. This is in the timeframe of the late 1920s until a handful of decades ago.

It is worth a look. You certainly won't find all answers there but it will get you thinking.

"The invisible power behind the visible king" is the specific phrase he used. :-)
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:54 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by PMBug View Post:
I would say there are people who would like to capitalize on events to effect a NWO outcome, but I would stop well short of saying it's a unanimous, concerted and well planned effort. There are always a host of competing actors looking to effect disparate outcomes.
This. Never let a good crisis go to waste - and we see this in more than one field of endeavor. The question is - how good are they at it, and my take is "not all that good" given the time and resources tossed that way. Just patient and persistent - something many opponents seem to lack.

Remember the domino theory?
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Old 01-27-2012, 04:23 PM   #8
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I am inclined to go with DCFusor here. I did a short stint with .gov (in the belly of the beast), and omniscience is not something that they possess...

YES, there are TPTB and hidden actors with lots of influence. But, it is my belief that they are chopped up into FACTIONS. The Kennedys don't like the Bushes, for example.

And the banks do, at least to an extant, compete against each other. They may be a cartel, but each looks after ITSELF first. Same with the oil companies, same with different foreign .govs.
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Old 01-27-2012, 04:28 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by DoChenRollingBearing View Post:
I did a short stint with .gov (in the belly of the beast), and omniscience is not something that they possess....
Thanks for the belly laugh of the day, DoChen. If you were there, you know.
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:19 PM   #10
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Out of their own mouths:

David Rockefeller Sept. 23, 1994 "This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long — We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

Winston Churchill: 1920 “From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky, Bela Kun, Rosa Luxembourg, and Emma Goldman, this world wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played a definitely recognizable role in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the nineteenth century, and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads, and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.”

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not
behind the scenes." —Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli of England, in 1844.

"We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether
World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent." -- Statement made before the
United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise their power from behind the
scenes." —Justice Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court.

"I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within." —General Douglas MacArthur

"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls
its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation."-- Mayor (1918-1925) John F. Hylan of New York.

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great
publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion
for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if
we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more
sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty
of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto determination
practiced in past centuries"--David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting
in June of 1991

"The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed
Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United
States a member of a World Government ..." -- AMERICAN MERCURY MAGAZINE, December 1957, pg. 92.

"If there are those who think we are to jump immediately into a new world order, actuated by complete understanding and brotherly love, they are doomed to disappointment. If we are ever to approach that time, it will be after patient and persistent effort of long duration. The present international situation of mistrust and fear can only be corrected by a formula of equal status, continuously applied, to every phase of international contacts, until the cobwebs of the old order are brushed out of the minds of the people of all lands." -- Dr. Augustus O. Thomas, president of the World Federation of Education Associations (August 1927), quoted in the book "International Understanding: Agencies Educating for a New World"

"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependent on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." - Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild
“Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws."
- Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

“Bankers own the earth; take it away from them but leave them with the power to create credit; and, with a flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again... If you want to be slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers control money and control credit.”
- Sir Josiah Stamp, Director, Bank of England, 1940.

“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining super capitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."
- Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
- Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference in Evians, France, 1991

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
- Henry Ford

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."
- U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House

The first president of the United Nations General Assembly, Paul-Henri Spaak, who was also a prime minister of Belgium and one of the early planners of the European Common Market, as well as a secretary-general of NATO, affirmed, "We do not want another committee, we have too many already. What we want is a man of sufficient stature to hold the allegiance of all the people and to lift us up out of the economic morass into which we are sinking. Send us such a man, and whether he be God or devil [antichrist], we will receive him."
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Old 01-27-2012, 11:23 PM   #11
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Winston Churchill had a conversation one evening with an English lady who disapproved of his behavior. I do not have the exact words at hand, but I bet that "rblong2us" or "h4rdward" could track the exact story down... It's about like this:

English Lady (disapprovingly): You are DRUNK!

Winston: Madame, I may indeed be drunk, but you are ugly. In the morning I'll be sober, but you'll still be ugly.

A Master speaks...
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