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Old 01-24-2019, 08:52 AM   #121
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There seems to be a lot happening with Venezuela right now. Decent overview published here:
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Mr. Maduro, who assumed the presidency after the death of his mentor, Hugo Chávez, in 2013, has overseen a drastic unraveling of the economy in Venezuela — once one of the region’s most prosperous countries — largely as a result of mismanagement and corruption.

But he has centralized power in the executive branch, tamping down on dissent through violence and intimidation, and winning the loyalty of the military by giving it control of lucrative industries.

In 2017, as protests mounted, Mr. Maduro sidelined the opposition-controlled legislature, the National Assembly, by ordering the creation of a new legislative body, known as the Constituent Assembly, which was asked to rewrite the Constitution. He jailed prominent members of the opposition, leaving it largely ineffective for many months.

In May 2018, Mr. Maduro won re-election to a new six-year term in the midst of a financial and humanitarian crisis. Coercion and vote rigging were widely reported. By the time of his inauguration on Jan. 10, many countries did not recognize his new term as legitimate, including the United States, Canada and a dozen Latin American nations.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/w...venezuela.html

The newly elected leader of the National Assembly, Juan Guaidó declared himself interim President according to the tenets of the original Venezuelan constitution (when they are without a legit President).

Here now is where it gets sticky:
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President Trump issued a statement, minutes after Mr. Guaidó declared himself interim president, recognizing him as the country’s leader and calling the National Assembly the “only legitimate branch of government duly elected by the Venezuelan people.” The United States has not ruled out the use of military force.

Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Denmark, Paraguay, Peru and the Organization of American States have also recognized Mr. Guaidó as the country’s leader.

Mr. Maduro moved quickly on Wednesday to cut diplomatic ties with the United States and order American diplomats to leave the country. He accused the Trump administration of orchestrating a plot to overthrow him.

Other nations have stood by Mr. Maduro. Russia reiterated its support for his government on Wednesday, as did Bolivia.
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Remember, both Russia and China have negotiated some heavy investment deals with Maduro involving Venezuela's gold mining and oil sectors. If Guaidó is successful in ousting Maduro, and especially if it's with USA military support, and then nullifies those deals, the Venezuelan story could become a more global issue.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:45 AM   #122
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We probably need to stay out of this from a military standpoint, and maybe just let Colombia and Brazil handle it. We can quietly give them all the support they need, but we need to stay out of the picture. There is no need to piss off both Russia and China right now, that's for damn sure.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:31 PM   #123
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I'm a bit concerned why the US government is getting involved with Venezuela. Is it about Oil, Gold or are they genuinely against the corruption in the country.

I see Russia is allied with Venezuela, so could that be another reason to put such heavy sanctions on the country...

https://libertyleak.com/2019/01/21/v...sis-explained/
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Old 01-27-2019, 11:57 AM   #124
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another opportunity to pick a fight with Russia .........

See how bad they are. They show us up in Syria, we will not let that happen again.
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Old 01-28-2019, 01:16 PM   #125
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Looks like things are going to come to a head pretty soon. No one wants to lend these guys money any more, and they can't seem to get their hands on any dollars to import the food they need, so the people are fucking starving. This will not end well for anyone e. The army generals may be loyal, but starving soldiers with loaded magazines may just decide to take matters in to their own hands and take those generals out and make some decisions on their own. I'm reading more and more articles that speak about the high rates of desertions among the rank and file, and those deserting are not leaving their weapons behind. I think an armed insurrection may be close at hand.

If they can damage enough heavy artillery, fuck up enough jets and get enough soldiers to join them, this is a no brainer. However, if they start this thing, they had better damn well have enough people on their side to finish it. And, they had better take out enough high ranking officers to put the fear of God in Maduro's soul. If they do that, Maduro will definitely run, because he is a pussy, there is absolutely no doubt about that.
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:08 AM   #126
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The UK joined the USA et. al. in supporting Guaidó's legitimacy claim and the BOE is still holding on to Venezuela's gold. Guaidó is asking them not to give the gold to Maduro.

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The U.K. government said it is up to the Bank of England to decide what to do with the “significant amount” of gold it is holding under contract for the embattled Venezuelan regime of Nicolas Maduro.

“This is a decision for the Bank of England, not for government,” Foreign Office Minister Alan Duncan told Parliament Monday during an urgent question on Venezuela. ...
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The U.K. followed the U.S. and other countries last week in recognizing Guaido as the legitimate president of Venezuela. When asked if the government would consider further sanctions against Venezuelan individuals including the military, Duncan answered it would consult with international partners “on how to approach the issue.”
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A group of major European nations recognized Venezuelan opposition leader Juan Guaido as the country's interim president on Monday, urging him to hold free and fair elections.

The coordinated move came after President Nicolas Maduro ignored a demand set by some EU nations last week to call snap elections by the end of Sunday. Spain, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Austria, Denmark and the Netherlands all said they would recognize Guadio as the legitimate Venezuelan leader.
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I suppose the UK's position will give the BoE cover for refusing Maduro's request on repatriating Venezuela's gold.
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