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Joe King

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What is PMbug.com's position on the age verification legislation being enacted around the World and that is being voted on today (Kids Act) in Congress?

They want to make so just to access anything online, ID will be required.

If this BS law passes, will it be resisted in any way, shape, or form?

IMHO, if the internet is so dangerous for kids, they should be prohibited for using it instead of ruining it for adults.

They should make it a ten thousand dollar fine, ten years in jail and loss of your children if caught allowing ones children online.
....and then leave us adults the f' alone.
 
Our rulers don't like our opinions, so they would like to intimidate us...would you talk like that if we knew who you are...of course they already know that.
 
So, there may be a video of some guy deer hunting with a (gun), who says a (bad word).

You do not have access to this website unless you enter your full name, address, last four numbers of your social security, date of birth, and scan a copy of your drivers license bar code to prove that you are 18 years old.

We (government) don't want some kid watching something with a (gun) or (foul language) or (nudity).

Where is my privacy?

Is the website secure, or a great place to steal my information?

The nanny state needs to F Off. Don't put the responsibility on me to prove my age. Make mommy monitor what her kid watches on the net.
I don't care what someone else's kid watches on the internet. Why should the responsibility of age restriction be on my end with my private information?
 
It's the pretext for ushering in a digital ID system. It's part of the WEF pipe dream for population control.
 
Our rulers don't like our opinions, so they would like to intimidate us...would you talk like that if we knew who you are...of course they already know that.
They're gonna shut down any sort of criticism or non-agreement.

And...let's face it; the side they're on, is not the side of the brighter bulbs in the chandelier. So...the dumbo cracks and libburlz won't inherently be throwing ideas out; and frankly, any discussion consisting of, Right-On! and Dittos!...is not edifying.

So there will be no discussion.

Their propaganda spewers will spew to the AI data-hoovers; and eventually the low-level DNC propagandists will themselves be replaced by AI.

Algos talking to algos; algos sucking it up and recording and retweeting it.

The Dead Internet.

I know, already...when I'm required to produce a Gubbermint ID to go online, that will be when I cut the cord. I'll just return to my books...I have many I haven't read; many more recommendations. When I have to have that digital ID to use the liberry, then I'll stop using THAT.

I'm more tired of this than words can express.
 
Back to 'bulletin boards' anyone?
Always the dark web.
How well does the dark web work if the operating system on your own computer forces you to ID?


It's the pretext for ushering in a digital ID system. It's part of the WEF pipe dream for population control.
Exactly.

Reason I was asking is about the site's official position on it.

Will you resist this to the degree you are able to?

Per my understanding, this stuff will supposedly apply to any site that allows direct user to user communications.

It'll be, show ID or be locked into a silent internet where you can't have any communications with anyone.

Edited to add: our only hope is that so many people refuse to comply, that their nefarious efforts fail.
 
Reason I was asking is about the site's official position on it.

Will you resist this to the degree you are able to?

Per my understanding, this stuff will supposedly apply to any site that allows direct user to user communications.

This site runs on a commercial forum software (Xenforo). If some government requires this BS, I expect the developers will incorporate features to enable it. I won't do that by choice. I suppose it's possible that the developers make such features mandatory at some point and then we'll see what's possible.

It's my choice to keep running the version of this forum software that I currently own or update the software as they publish updates (which I have not checked for in a long time actually). The main issue with not updating periodically is that the forum software will eventually be limiting me to some version of the operating system software which will eventually no longer be supported with security fixes. It's not an issue for today or the near future for sure, but I've experienced something like this before with a site that ran vBulletin 3.8x long after end of life. I had to upgrade to Xenforo to be able to update the operating system softwares (Apache, PHP, MySQL).
 
I don't think Linux is gonna do that.
It'll be in the network.

And systems that don't comply will have distribution, and interfacings, blocked.

Were you involved with Linux when Gurgle took over Ewww Tube? I was.

There was a backdoor method of saving video streams. Just go into TEMP and look for the large video file, copy and paste in another file not part of the system, and you had the file. It was SO easy...

Gurgle was having none of that. One day I was booting up my laptop - I was plugged into the Ethernet cable that was my online access - and WITHOUT any prompting, my computer started an "update" of my OS. It hadn't even booted up.

This, of course, is very different from other updates, which only happen with prompts, when the user hits CHECK FOR UPDATES.

Anyway, the update removed the access to that feature. The video stream became fragmented into several different files I couldn't find - not to this day.

Keep in mind, that was just one of three computers I had, all running Ubuntu Linux. Now, thus warned, I booted another, THEN plugged it in, and found that I could still steal video files from the Tube of Eww.

For a time. Newly uploaded videos were fragmented and encrypted, even though my backup computer hadn't updated. Videos already up, I could save. Other sources, I could save - for a time, Gurgle is really a standard, and soon other streaming services made pirating videos impossible as well.

But that's what I have to say about depending on your own box for protection from this.
 
The government is learning that the internet has broken their monopoly on propergandizing the youth of the nation...they are jealous.
 
And systems that don't comply will have distribution, and interfacings, blocked
The way I understand it to work, is that the OS will tell the website the age status of the user.

If so, all it'll mean is that the websites will lock you into the "G" rated version of anything and disallow any means of direct communication with other users if they do not receive the age data.

That's what I am seeing on some sites already. Ie: face scan and ID, or no means of communication permitted and areas of sites blocked off.
.....and we're not even talking pron here, or even anything remotely close to it.
 
.....and we're not even talking pron here, or even anything remotely close to it.
Of course not. P0rn is the red-herring; the justification to do what they'd wanted to do from the start. CONTROL.

We see what they think of p0rn by looking at what they let little kids post on TikTok. No...this is just MK-Ultra progressing...the never-ending search to control minds, remove free will, zombify the (m)asses.

I don't think it will be in the operating systems. That's too easy to bypass - with a home-brew OS (there are hundreds of distros using the Linux kernel) or even an old Windoze 95 system.

Nope, it will be based on the network, that EVERYONE...WILL BE MADE TO COMPLY. It's HTTPS 2.0 time.
 
I don't think it will be in the operating systems. That's too easy to bypass - with a home-brew OS (there are hundreds of distros using the Linux kernel) or even an old Windoze 95 system.

Well you can think that, but the laws being enacted are mandating age verification at the OS level.
......and work is already being done to comply with it.

The problem is, the ones who don't do the age verification, risk being locked into a G rated internet.








Nope, it will be based on the network, that EVERYONE

They already have that, but it is not good enough for them.

The ISP's already won't sell service to a minor.

Going that way, the internet is already "age verified".

They want to know that the actual person behind the keyboard on any given machine ( be it PC or phone) is in fact over 18, or they will only be given the children's internet.
.....but with no means of direct communication.
 
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I have ripped a couple hundred videos from YouTube to use as base material for parodies. I used a freeware (PC - not phone app) called ClipGrab to rip the source videos. Works pretty good.
LibreTube is good app (alternative YouTube front end) that allows that on a phone.

It also allows the blocking of paid sponsor ad reads during the video.
 
The problem is, the ones who don't do the age verification, risk being locked into a G rated internet.
That's already in the process of happening. Now, the Censorship-Cancellation Complex is in place to smite us proles who hold Inconvenient Opinions.

One dare not. Not only are crazies not punished, for their "SWATting" and doxxing; they're aggressively encouraged and egged on. All you need do is look at some of the "moderate" content on Eww Toob...where creators bleep out words like "damn" or "vaccine" or "mandates." WHILE approved Leftists can issue an unbroken stream of profanity.

We know why. I don't know why non-Leftist creators (Adam Taggert and Alex Christoforou come to mind) bother with Gurgle-Eww. They must pay much better than Rumble...but, that's just selling your soul to your tormenter...

I've already resigned myself. Soon, soon...I won't be online. If that means I can't bank...so be it. If I have to pay my attorney's clerks to manage my money, since my bank won't just allow me to go in and make deposits and write checks...that is what it is, too.

This is life in the American-Soviet era. I'm marginalized, Cancelled, for not participating in the Mark Of The Beast.
 
Worse comes to worse I grow an ugly beard and join the Amish. Not so bad.
You need a point of entry into that world.

Believe me, I have thought about it. (Hutterite communities not far away) If I were young, I'd be working at it - it's a far better life offered, than what we see for ourselves now.

But they don't just welcome outsiders. I don't even know how they vet convertees - it's never been an issue for them; their big problem was always keeping the young from LEAVING.

That's gonna change, of course...probably has. Young non-Amish, non-Mennonite, non-Hutterite men...seeing the abundant healthy food, the healthy young women...but not so excited about long Sunday meeting-house gatherings...screening out the sincere would be hard.

Me, I offer nothing, at my crippled old age. I ain't getting in, that's all there is.
 
You need a point of entry into that world.

Believe me, I have thought about it. (Hutterite communities not far away) If I were young, I'd be working at it - it's a far better life offered, than what we see for ourselves now.

But they don't just welcome outsiders. I don't even know how they vet convertees - it's never been an issue for them; their big problem was always keeping the young from LEAVING.

That's gonna change, of course...probably has. Young non-Amish, non-Mennonite, non-Hutterite men...seeing the abundant healthy food, the healthy young women...but not so excited about long Sunday meeting-house gatherings...screening out the sincere would be hard.

Me, I offer nothing, at my crippled old age. I ain't getting in, that's all there is.
You are short changing yourself.
 
You need a point of entry into that world.

Believe me, I have thought about it. (Hutterite communities not far away) If I were young, I'd be working at it - it's a far better life offered, than what we see for ourselves now.

But they don't just welcome outsiders. I don't even know how they vet convertees - it's never been an issue for them; their big problem was always keeping the young from LEAVING.

That's gonna change, of course...probably has. Young non-Amish, non-Mennonite, non-Hutterite men...seeing the abundant healthy food, the healthy young women...but not so excited about long Sunday meeting-house gatherings...screening out the sincere would be hard.

Me, I offer nothing, at my crippled old age. I ain't getting in, that's all there is.

You can be Amish adjacent, they are generally not shy about sharing any of their methods. There is a YouTube prepper couple that learned much from some nearby Amish friends.
 
Worse comes to worse I grow an ugly beard and join the Amish. Not so bad.

Go for it bro.............lol

Yes, it is possible for an outsider (often called an "English" person by the Amish) to join the Amish, but it is quite rare and very difficult. Most attempts do not succeed long-term, with one estimate suggesting only about one-third of converts remain Amish.

amishamerica.com
The Amish do not actively recruit or evangelize outsiders. They emphasize a genuine personal conviction, deep cultural and religious commitment, and the ability to adapt to a very different way of life. Many who try eventually leave due to the challenges of giving up modern conveniences, learning the language and customs, and fully integrating into a tight-knit, traditional community.

lancasterpa.com
How the Process Typically WorksThere is no single official "program," as practices can vary by community (e.g., Lancaster County vs. more conservative groups), but the general steps involve:
  1. Research and Initial Contact: Spend time learning about Amish faith, history, and daily life through books, visits to Amish areas, or talking to people familiar with them. Some communities are more "seeker-friendly" than others. Identify a specific settlement and try to build relationships—perhaps by visiting farms, markets, or through mutual contacts. Finding an Amish person or family willing to mentor or "sponsor" you informally is often key.

    amish365.com
  2. Live Among Them for an Extended Period: Move to an Amish community and live simply for at least a year (sometimes longer). This may involve staying with an Amish family or on your own while adopting their lifestyle—no electricity, no cars, plain dress, horse-and-buggy travel, etc. You would attend church services, participate in community work (like barn raisings), and demonstrate commitment.

    the-daily-record.com
  3. Learn Pennsylvania Dutch (and German for church): This is essential for full participation, as it's the primary language in homes and many church services. English is also spoken, but fluency in the dialect is expected for integration.

    lancasterpa.com
  4. Demonstrate Genuine Faith and Commitment: Show a personal conversion experience and willingness to follow the Ordnung (church rules). This includes forgoing modern technology, embracing humility, separation from the world, and community accountability. Amish baptism is adult (or young adult) baptism by pouring, and it represents a lifelong vow of membership. Converts are typically re-baptized upon joining.

    amish-heritage.org
  5. Approval and Baptism: After a probationary period, if the community (especially ministers and bishop) supports you and believes your commitment is sincere, you may be baptized and become a full member. This process can take several years of observation to ensure you understand the sacrifices involved.

    amishamerica.com
Major Challenges
  • Lifestyle Adjustment: Giving up cars, electricity, smartphones, etc., permanently is far harder than many expect. Even small conveniences are deeply ingrained for most outsiders.
  • Cultural and Social Fit: Amish life is communal, with specific gender roles, work expectations (often farming or manual trades), and limited interaction with the outside world. Isolation from family/friends and the learning curve for skills can be overwhelming.
  • Marriage and Family: Converts often face extra scrutiny. Marriage typically requires both parties to be baptized members.
  • Retention: Many converts leave after a few years due to these realities.

    amishamerica.com
Success stories exist (e.g., some who married into the community or had strong personal convictions), but they are exceptions. Communities may discourage outsiders because they recognize how tough the transition is.

mennomedia.org
If you're seriously considering this, start by visiting Amish areas respectfully, reading accounts from converts (like Called to Be Amish), and praying/reflecting deeply. Contacting a bishop in a specific community would be a practical next step, but expect caution or discouragement at first. It's a profound, all-encompassing life change rather than a simple "join."
 
Our present Elites are control-freaks.

And politics, in essence, is about CONTROL. Who has it; and who must submit to it.

All has become politics.

And we have seen this before, dozens of times in history. The cold dead hand of the State...crushing the life out of the human spirit.

Here's a little reading I found that explains it far better than I:


let’s start with some simple salients:​
politics is misery; therefore, making everything political makes everyone miserable.​
this is is the bleakness of totalitarian and collectivist systems.​
the entire ethos of such structures is and must be political:​
“all within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state”​
-mussolini​
these are the maxims of the totalitarian impulse to human perfection and its need to not only subsume the individual to the collective but to lionize this subsumation as “progress” and “the way forward.” it takes A LOT of effort because to efface human nature in such a fashion is no mean feat. it requires total commitment and an absolute surrounding by ethoses and demands for obedience and self-erasure, of dominion by doctrine. there can be no way but “the way” and all dissent must be cast as outgroup and relentlessly purged. there can be no counterexample.​


this is why, contrary to the jingle on the box, collectivism and “common good” are always a focus on division, a focus on shaking the jar until the bugs fight so that some narcissistic sociopath can play at being king of the ants. the 0.000 batting average of creating utopia is irrelevant to such people, in the end, it all comes down who gets to be the boot and who shall be cast as buttock.​
“within the revolution, everything… against the revolution, no rights at all.”​
-fidel castro 1961​
it is, frankly, the most inhuman system imaginable because it sets itself, as a matter of core doctrine, against human nature declaring it unfit and unevolved and seeking to cast in its place some form of ideological imposition that was either mistaken for utopia or cynically cast as such by the pigs who will rapidly show you just how they feel about some animals being more equal than others.​
you want to understand why so many seem so unhappy? that’s why.​
we are not meant to live like that.​
it’s intolerable.​
and worse, everyone can increasingly feel where this is going (and this is nothing new, we have been here before and the game is always the same).​
“all culture, all literature and art belong to definite classes and are geared to definite political lines.”​
-mao, 1942​
people speak about how movies suck now, how music is stagnant, how art and even fashion are kind of going nowhere and do not have a patch on the vibrancy and variety of the 60’s, the 70’s, the 80’s, the 90’s. they make lame accusations about “kids today” etc but the reality is that it’s not the kids, it’s the politics.​
this happens in every single society that gets captured by totalitarian twaddle of “we need to tell the humans how to be some inhuman elevation of themselves that we imagine to be finer and to deny their own natures in service of the collective because some self-styled elite has become determined that the world would be better that way.”​
Moar at linky.

This is their latest attempt to crush speech, thought, communication they cannot control...and thus, cannot censor or block. Because, as the last sentence above notes, "some self-styled Elite has determined that the world would be better" if we marched to his patterns.
 
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