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England

Protests in UK against asylum seeker housing

The government is legally obligated to house asylum-seekers. Using hotels to do so had been a marginal issue until 2020, when the number of asylum-seekers increased sharply and the then-Conservative government had to find new ways to house them. #EuropeNews
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Sounds like the real Brits should apply for asylum themselves.


Their own gov is oppressing them.

Saw where in Surrey they are arresting people for merely having looked at women for a second too long, while jogging down the street in public. Was two reasonably attractive undercover female cops in skin tight jogging attire. Ie: they are trying to get guys to look at them so they can be arrested.

Saw another case where a guy had his cash seized merely because the cops computer said the guy was unemployed. Therefore he had to go show the police how he got that cash in order to possibly get it back.

England is f'ed up.
 

DOD Systems Bolster Border Security Operations​

The ground-based operational surveillance system — expeditionary, the long-range advanced scout surveillance system, and the common remotely operated weapon station are advanced tools and unique military capabilities used by service members assigned to Joint Task Force Southern Border to monitor large areas, detect illegal crossings and strengthen perimeter security in coordination with CBP agents.

Whether elevated on towers, deployed from concealed positions or mounted on armored vehicles, these systems provide persistent coverage across challenging and often inaccessible landscapes. Each platform offers a unique capability, contributing to the multilayered detection and monitoring strategy in place along the southern border.

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Rolling Stone

The Great Reverse Migration​


This story was produced in partnership with the nonprofit newsroom TYPE INVESTIGATIONS and THE MARGUERITE CASEY FOUNDATION.

AS SOON AS THEY TAKE OFF from the Panamanian coast, there is a sigh of relief. Surrounded by 30 other Venezuelan migrants, packed inside an overloaded midsize speedboat, Edinson holds on tightly to the edge. The 37-year-old is tall and slender and has a presence that stands out as he towers over everyone. Over the past couple of weeks, he's become the de facto captain of a group of migrants making their way back to Venezuela.

At this point in their long journey, they sit in silence under blue skies and a blazing morning sun. The end is in sight. Sporting a black Los Angeles Dodgers baseball cap and a blue T-shirt, Edinson stares out to the crystal clear Caribbean Sea. He knows these waters can be deadly. A couple of months ago, a boat carrying 19 migrants capsized not too far from here, but Edinson tells himself he has survived worse.

The boat is being piloted by two local operators, also known as lancheros, who constantly scoop water to avoid flooding. Dressed in black from head to toe, these lancheros now make a living transporting migrants from Panama's Colón province in the central, northern part of the country to La Miel, a small town close to the Colombian border. This 12-hour sea route is the only way for migrants to bypass the dense, swampy, deadly Darién jungle that connects the two countries - the only spit of land linking North and South America via Central America. Each person making the voyage had risked their lives once to trek north through the jungle in their attempt to reach the United States. This time, on their way back to Venezuela, they want to avoid it at all costs, even if it means facing those rough Caribbean waters.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-great-reverse-migration/ar-AA1Lkea4?ocid=socialshare
 
Project Veritas exposing the underbelly


And this is:

Daniel Fitzgerald, a State Department official responsible for allocating U.S. foreign aid and bribes across the Western Hemisphere.

Despite USAID pouring more than $4 billion into programs over four years, the “Great Replacement Theory” is real — the deliberate importation and protection of MS-13 is intended to destroy America as we know it.

— The State Department official affirmed:

“Oh, yeah. So all the good, honest, hardworking Mexicans stay in Mexico, and all the pieces of garbage come to the United States… And the Mexican government has no reason to stop it because their garbage goes to another country and sends money back to them.”

— When asked about the ultimate goal behind such policies, the official responded:

“They want to change the demographics of the United States… Traditional, standard Americans are not leftists. Latin Americans are all leftists. It literally is. It’s just— it literally is essential to try to change the demographics in the United States.”

Up until Donald Trump, the U.S. Department of State — hand in hand with the United Nations — conspired to destroy Western civilization, while the U.S. Congress simply sat and watched. Meanwhile, USAID, the number-one sponsor of terror, funded it.
 

South Korea says ‘many’ of its nationals were detained in immigration raid on Hyundai facility in Georgia​

South Korea said Friday that it had expressed “concern and regret” to the U.S. Embassy over an immigration raid on a Hyundai facility in Georgia during which it said “many” South Korean nationals had been detained.

“The economic activities of our companies investing in the U.S. and the rights and interests of our nationals must not be unfairly violated,” said Lee Jae-woong, a spokesperson for the foreign ministry of the key U.S. ally, according to the Yonhap news agency.

Agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) as well as Homeland Security Investigations and other federal agencies were involved in the operation on Thursday, which an ICE spokesperson said was conducted in connection with an investigation into “unlawful employment practices and other serious federal crimes.”

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Seoul concludes US talks to release South Koreans detained in Hyundai raid​

South Korea's government says it has concluded talks with the US to release its citizens detained in a massive immigration raid at a Hyundai plant in Georgia.

The chief of staff of South Korea's president said a chartered plane would be sent to bring the detainees home if administration procedures were completed.

Kang Hoon-sik said the authorities were trying to improve the visa system to prevent such incidents in the future.

US officials detained 475 people - more than 300 of them South Korean nationals - who they said were found to be illegally working at the battery facility, one of the largest foreign investment projects in the state.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...-in-hyundai-raid/ar-AA1M2UwX?ocid=socialshare
 

More than 300 Koreans detained by ICE in Georgia are heading home​

More than 300 South Korean nationals detained by federal agents in a massive immigration raid last week on a Hyundai plant in Georgia for alleged visa violations were released early Thursday and were being taken to Atlanta's Hartfield-Jackson airport for a charter flight back to their country.

The South Korean workers were among some 475 people detained on Sept. 4 by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents at a still-under construction joint Hyundai-LG electric vehicle battery facility near Savannah. ICE said they were suspected of living and working in the U.S. illegally.

CBS News photographer Darrall Johnson watched as the Koreans boarded eight buses that then left for the airport, where a Korean Air charter flight was waiting to fly them home. Johnson said a cart full of documents was loaded onto one of the buses.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...are-heading-home/ar-AA1MhDWn?ocid=socialshare
 
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'ICE know they screwed up': Korean detainees' lawyer on chaotic raid at Georgia battery plant​

Sep 12, 2025
316 South Korean engineers and technicians – who just spent six days imprisoned in a detention center in the US state of Georgia – touched down safely at Seoul’s Incheon International Airport today.
Atlanta-based lawyer Charles Kuck represented seven of them, and tells GCR what happened and what it means.

9:27
 
If they were all here legally and legally able to work, they wouldn't have had to leave the country.
 
Joe King said:
If they were all here legally and legally able to work, they wouldn't have had to leave the country.
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First and foremost: I have no dog in this fight. Posed because it is newsworthy.

That said, from my understanding they were here to build a battery plant that would employ a lot of people. Something was wrong with their visas. And now the rest is history.


I don't know what will happen in the future, but if I was the prez of S Korea I would probably find another country to invest in. The reason being the entire incident could have been handled differently, with no one arrested and the problems with the visas straightened out diplomatically with no interruption to the work going on at the plant.

I'm looking at this from other countries point of views. They have pledged to invest here in America and then they see this happening. I'm thinking this will give then second thoughts. May even drive them toward BRICS
 
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Trump administration in damage-control mode after Hyundai immigration raid sparks investment concerns​

  • Trump said that skilled workers are “welcome” in the U.S. following immigration raids on a South Korean-owned battery plant last week.
  • However, Trump emphasized that these foreign workers are expected to return home eventually.
  • U.S. officials have reportedly expressed regret over the immigration raid and agreed on working towards new visa programs for South Korean workers.
The White House on Monday moved to limit the fallout of an immigration raid at a South Korean-owned battery plant in Georgia on Sept.4 — a move that angered the U.S. ally and sparked concerns regarding foreign investment in the U.S.

The Georgia facility, operated by Hyundai Motor Group and LG Energy Solution, saw 475 of its workers arrested on allegations that they were in the U.S. illegally, or without the proper work permits, with hundreds of detained South Koreans sent home Thursday.

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searcher said:
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Update

Hyundai says it will spend $2.7 billion expanding part of the Georgia complex raided by ICE​


ATLANTA (AP) — Hyundai Motor Group on Thursday confirmed it is going forward with previously announced plans to expand its Georgia plant, just weeks after an immigration raid delayed the startup of an electric vehicle battery plant at the site.

As part of a broader investment strategy, Hyundai said it would spend $2.7 billion to increase production capacity at the Ellabell site by 200,000 over the next three years, to a total of 500,000 vehicles a year.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/com...ex-raided-by-ice/ar-AA1MPVTW?ocid=socialshare
 
What exactly is wrong with the first two lines?

What exactly, was the problem with those workers?

Were they in fact legal per the letter of the law, or were they not?

I heard that many had over stayed their visas. Is it legal to o that?

If you or I went to S Korea and over stayed our visas and also were employed, would that be legal there? Would they kick us out of their nation?
 
Joe King said:
Were they in fact legal per the letter of the law, or were they not?
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Exclusive-South Korea's LG Energy was using US visa workarounds before Trump, documents show​

By Hyunjoo Jin and Heekyong Yang

SEOUL (Reuters) -South Korea's LG Energy Solution was using workarounds to U.S. visa restrictions well before Donald Trump returned as president and his administration launched a massive crackdown that detained hundreds of LG workers, internal documents show.

LG Energy Solution's reliance on a visa waiver programme started under Trump's predecessors, reflecting long-running problems South Korean companies say they face in getting short-term visas for specialists they need for their high-tech plants in the U.S.

Company guidelines, detailed in the August 2023 LG documents seen by Reuters, advise employees and subcontractors to use the short-term Electronic System for Travel Authorization waiver programme, avoiding business visa procedures, after many visa applications had been rejected.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/oth...p-documents-show/ar-AA1MRUgh?ocid=socialshare
 
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Never mind those "roofers" are here illegally stealing jobs from American roofer companies and no doubt not paying taxes while they get all the freebies our system has to offer. Health care, schools for their kids, probably welfare....ect What a bunch of morons in Rochester NY. They most likely protected some criminals too.
 
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I was a cop in Chicago for 33 years. The city is a crime ridden shithole. It needed National Guard troops 50 years ago let alone now. Chicago is the main depot for the Mexican Sinaloa drug cartel and almost the entirety of the city is controlled by gangs who operate entire city blocks of open air drug sales, street take overs. Its nothing for entire blocks in the city to become to dangerous for the Police to even go into because the gangs will shoot at us.

The gangs of roving robbery crews targeting high end retail stores have gotten so bold its unbelievable yet this Governor and Mayor say's everything is fine. The newspapers dont report much of the crime so you have to go to blogs for it. https://cwbchicago.com/ https://heyjackass.com/
 
So why can't they do their visas correctly?

Is it really that hard of a process?
 
Joe King said:
So why can't they do their visas correctly?

Is it really that hard of a process?
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If you're asking me you're asking the wrong person. You can probably find some answers concerning visas here:

U.S. Visas Contacts

travel.state.gov

Then again maybe the S Korean consulate could be a good place especially since they may have been directly involved.

Republic of Korea Consulate General In Atlanta, GA
229 Peachtree Street
Suite 500, International Tower
Atlanta GA 30303
Telephone: (404) 522-1611
Fax: (404) 521-3169
District: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, Virgin Islands
Republic of Korea Consulate General In Atlanta

If you contact anyone I'd be interested in reading their reply.
 
SilverStacker said:
yet this Governor and Mayor say's everything is fine. The newspapers dont report much of the crime so you have to go to blogs for it. https://cwbchicago.com/ https://heyjackass.com/
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From your first link.

Days before fatal Mag Mile crash-and-grab, accused man posed with governor at ‘peacekeeper’ event — while wanted in 4 states​

September 18, 2025 6:29 AM Tim Hecke
Less than a week before a crash-and-grab burglary crew killed an innocent man on the Magnificent Mile last Thursday, one of the men now charged with that murder donned a “peacekeeper” uniform and posed for a one-on-one picture with Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker.

WTF?????????????????
 

More on visas:


Edit to add:

Trump imposes $100K fee on H-1B visas in new immigration action​

President Donald Trump signed an executive action on Friday to impose a $100,000 application fee for H-1B visas — in an effort to curb what his administration says is overuse of the program.

“We need great workers, and this pretty much ensures that that’s what’s going to happen,” Trump said from the Oval Office, where officials detailed how the measure would incentivize companies to employ American workers while still providing a pathway to hire highly skilled foreign workers in specialized fields.

The proclamation will restrict entry under the program unless accompanied by the payment.

In a separate order, Trump also directed the creation of a “gold card” immigration pathway that he said would fast-track visas for certain immigrants in exchange for a hefty fee. The policy will expedite visas for foreigners who pay the US $1 million, while allowing a company to pay $2 million to speed up the process for a foreign worker that it sponsors.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...migration-action/ar-AA1MVg7g?ocid=socialshare
 
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The questions I asked are ones we should all want answers to.

The people in question were either legally here or they were not.

If they weren't here legally, then the Trump admin would be correct in what they did.
....or are the S. Koreans supposed to get special treatment?

For years, all we heard was, "no one is above the law".

Are Koreans above the law?
 
Will it apply to all current H-1B visa holders?

If not, it should. Tons of abuse in that system.
 

Trump’s new detention policy targets millions of immigrants. Judges keep saying it’s illegal.​

The Trump administration is systematically locking up immigrants while they contest the government’s attempts to deport them, even if they’ve lived in the United States for decades and have no criminal record.

This indiscriminate mass detention — a dramatic shift in immigration enforcement policy that began on July 8 — has been declared illegal by dozens of federal judges, who have described it as a flagrant perversion of long-standing law, policy and common sense.

But the administration says its reinterpretation of the law is both legal and a key prong of President Donald Trump’s mass deportation strategy. They say no matter how long someone has resided illegally in the country — “for 25 minutes or 25 years” — the law doesn’t just allow, it requires, their detention while awaiting deportation. And they hope this interpretation encourages many to depart the country voluntarily.


The result has been hundreds of frantic lawsuits by immigrants who have been arrested without warning at work, at routine check-ins with immigration authorities or after immigration court proceedings. Immigration lawyers and advocates contend they’re being sent to overcrowded and unsanitary detention facilities.

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searcher said:
They say no matter how long someone has resided illegally in the country — “for 25 minutes or 25 years” — the law doesn’t just allow, it requires, their detention while awaiting deportation
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Does it actually say that in the law in question?

Can you "search" it out for us, Search?
....no pun intended, as they say. Lol
 
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