Chicago in financial doo doo (pensions)

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/27/us-usa-chicago-swaps-idUSKBN0LV26020150227

Much like Greece, Chicago has an unsustainable math problem with their operational model. In this case, Chicago can't afford those fabulous union pensions.
 
I really, really want to see the fireworks when they go all Detroit on those pensioners they promised the moon.
 
today PA governor annoucned plans for a 4.6 billion $ tax increase.
 
Yeah, so Illinois kicked the can a little bit, but the problem not only hasn't gone away, it's growing much, much worse. It's like a parallel for the global debt issue ...


More: http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-illinois-pensions-20180509-story,amp.html

(bold emphasis is mine - I like that quote)

The Chicago Fed floated a proposal. It appears to have gone over like a lead balloon...


More: http://www.wirepoints.com/chicago-f...a-statewide-property-tax-wirepoints-original/

Since the math is inescapable, I predict that Illinois will at some point amend their constitution to allow a reduction in benefits and the unions will howl as they gut the system.
 
While its only the worst funds failing theres probably a view that Gov will step in with some freshly printed.
Quite how it goes if / when Gov caves in on one will be interesting ..........

Theres not a lot of votes in allowing reality to manifest.
 
So, they're financially bankrupt, murdering each other at a rate you'd expect to see in Mogadishu and nobody knows why the progressive political policies are not bringing peace on Earth and prosperity to everybody?

the gubmint should do sumpn' 'bout dat
 
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Quite how it goes if / when Gov caves in on one will be interesting ....

Oh yeah, Illinois/Chicago isn't the only locale in this situation. New Jersey and California have similarly underfunded pension issues. Illinois is hamstrung by a (state level) Constitutional restraint on reducing benefits though. So unless something changes, they are going to have to make some really painful choices in cutting other aspects of the budget (not likely) or raising already high taxes through the roof (and watch the population exodus from state erode the tax base at an accelerated rate which feeds a death spiral). From what I've read, they have already passed the math Rubicon on being able to address the issue with reasonable solutions.

Who knows, maybe they will embrace legalizing new industries (drugs/marijuana, gambling) in a big way to try and raise revenues. :flail:
 
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Since the math is inescapable, I predict that Illinois will at some point amend their constitution to allow a reduction in benefits and the unions will howl as they gut the system.

Yeah, so about that...


https://www.chicagotribune.com/news...ions-illinois-chicago-20181212-story,amp.html
 
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Who knows, maybe they will embrace legalizing new industries (drugs/marijuana, gambling) in a big way to try and raise revenues. :flail:

Oh shit! Hahahaha.... Maybe Rahm is reading pmbug...

Chicago’s outgoing Democrat mayor, Rahm Emanuel, says the way to defuse the Windy City’s pension bomb is to legalize and tax marijuana and build a city-owned casino.
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https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2...-pay-chicagos-28-billion-pension-casinos-pot/
 

https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/econ...-out-chicago-pensions-hi3EE8ee8ECEbwQXoC2TvQ/

$140,000 per person you say? No problem... I'll just grab that from the petty cash stash over by the fireplace.
 
Penn hasn't been around in a long time, or he might have been the one to post the following (it's two months old, but I just saw it):
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/norr...-by-more-than-35-percent-to-pay-for-pensions/
 
Not going to help property prices or encouraging population influx to generate more tax.

But because the individual with property is the softest target, reckon on this being the 'fix' for all those pension funds with a shortfall.

Could make the concept of property ownership a lot less attractive and more places end up like Detroit.
 
They don't really have much choice. Their hands are tied with respect to altering the pension obligations (can't without a change to the state's Constitution). They have to raise revenue to comply with law. They don't have any good options.
 

https://www.wirepoints.com/moodys-t...o-increase-the-outflow-of-illinois-residents/
 
Illinois as a whole is screwed. They can never fulfill the pension promises they have made. Their taxes and absurd laws have and are causing population flight that is destabilizing the economy there faster than they can tax the people to repair it.
 
Wherever dem/prog/soc/comm's are in power is or will be a s%#&hole.
 

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rel...ty-while-127-000-draw-pensions-300797677.html
 
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See that's the thing, while it's great getting dead people to vote you into office & vote for your socialist/communist programs, they don't pay any of the taxes towards them.

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Chicago needs to declare bankruptcy, as does the rest of the state. Re-set their pensions and move the hell on. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth, but there is no other way. If they continue to bleed the populace, they will simply leave, just as they have been doing. In fact, they've been doing it in all the high tax states.
 
So a year ago Rahm Emanuel talked about a Chicago owned casino. Looks like the "casino to fund pensions" plan is a go.


https://www.courant.com/ct-cb-chicago-casino-20191130-hrflyoppvjfnzd6vuhnkqlrice-story.html
 
* bump *


 
My question, when was the last time someone who graduated from a Chitown school could actually pass a math test?
 
They can't even make a proper pizza.
 
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