Cresthaven Jet Crash

[nickndfl]

 

[nickndfl]

My friend shot this video.

 

[pmbug]

Did you friend see any jet/plane debris anywhere? Did it all vaporize in the fireball?

 

[Bottom Feeder]

Did it all vaporize in the fireball?

Like Flight 93 when it crashed in Pennsylvania on September 11?

 

[Viking]

 

[Casey Jones]

A 20-year-old female.

DEI for you and I. Planes fall out of sky...

 

[Viking]

A 20-year-old female.

DEI for you and I. Planes fall out of sky...

Since she was operating the radios, I'm guessing she was not the pilot flying nor captain in this situation.

 

[Casey Jones]

Since she was operating the radios, I'm guessing she was not the pilot flying nor captain in this situation.

We don't know who/what the pilot was.

But, as the co-pilot-slash-First Officer, she was supposed to be FULLY QUALIFIED to take the controls; to work problems independently, to take over should the Captain be disabled; and to assist or even override the captain should he suddenly make a gross error or go berserkers.

What she was capable of, was playing Perils-Of-Pauline on the radio. HOW many times have we, all of us, heard or made a comment about how CALM a crew or critical person was, in communication, as things unfold? Cops with a gut shot, call in that OFFICER DOWN, steady voice, and then collapse. I don't remember Sullenberger's radio transmissions as he was landing on the Hudson - that itself is telling. Ho hum, just another day...hey, we could use a few rescue craft out here, can you relay to Port Authority?

This to me, smells like that dingbat "aviator" who launched off the Abe Lincoln and straight into the ocean. BOTH seem to be DEI - in Hultgreen's case it was; she'd come close to failing qualification tests and junior trainers recommended she be removed from the flight program. Didn't happen.

Here's this girl posing in front of what I guess was her plane at the time, in hot pants.



And now is what comes of it.

 

[Joe King]

There doesn't appear to be a horizontal stabilizer on the plane before impact. They flew right through the center of a growing thunderstorm just before the uncontrolled descent started. On the radio you can hear her saying they are experiencing +/- 6-700 feet variation in altitude caused by turbulence, along with potential icing.

600 feet +/- in altitude is a lot of turbulance

The forces involved probably broke the horizontal stabilizer off, at which point it wouldn't have mattered who was at the controls. Everyone on the plane would have simply been along for the ride, at that point.

I'd like to know why they turned right and flew through the center of a thunderstorm. I'd think that they should have been able to see a towering Cumulonimbus cloud.

 

[Joe King]

Anyone notice that you can hear someone reciting the Lord's Prayer in the background of the audio?

 

[nickndfl]

My friend lives in the evacuated trailer park. He or his wife shot it walking over to Military Trail.

No other info at this time. I am in Boston right now on a flight delay back to Fort Lauderdale.

 

[Casey Jones]

The forces involved probably broke the horizontal stabilizer off, at which point it wouldn't have mattered who was at the controls. Everyone on the plane would have simply been along for the ride, at that point.

She did announce (panicked scream) that they were in an overspeed condition. That is where engineering limits are exceeded, and it becomes possible, probable even, that the wings and other appendages are torn off the airframe.

I can hear readers ask: Wouldn't I be panicked? I don't know. I would never have tried to be a commercial pilot - I don't even like riding on those things, any airplane. Never did. But how many times have we heard seasoned professionals, working the radio, keeping cool as things are coming all apart. Announcing to ATC that they can't make even the closest airstrip, they're going down in a cornfield. Or in water.

I don't expect (what was essentially) a teenage girl to keep cool. But I don't expect her to be competent to fly such a craft as a commercial pilot, either. Which by appearances she was not.

Now I'm reading that the captain was a fifty-year-old. He should have known better than to fly such a plane through a storm...or, maybe he was fired from an airline, maybe for alcoholism or poor judgement...and maybe he was dismissive of storms because of how large commercial airliners handle cold and icy conditions, far better?

This is the Peter Principle on display. Both of them rose to their level of incompetence; and then pulled themselves out of the gene pool.

 

[Viking]

I'd like to know why they turned right and flew through the center of a thunderstorm. I'd think that they should have been able to see a towering Cumulonimbus cloud.

Could have been an imbedded thunder storm (ie. they were in the clouds).