Gold in Turkey

Welcome to the Precious Metals Bug Forums

Welcome to the PMBug forums - a watering hole for folks interested in gold, silver, precious metals, sound money, investing, market and economic news, central bank monetary policies, politics and more.

Why not register an account and join the discussions? When you register an account and log in, you may enjoy additional benefits including no Google ads, market data/charts, access to trade/barter with the community and much more. Registering an account is free - you have nothing to lose!

pmbug

Your Host
Administrator
Benefactor
Messages
20,971
Reaction score
8,751
Points
268
Location
Texas
United-States
It's been mentioned in the central banks buying gold thread that Turkey has been an active buyer of gold lately. Looks like the people of Turkey are trying to follow the central bank's lead:

As Turkey struggles with runaway currency devaluation and astronomical inflation, the country is seeing record levels of gold smuggling as citizens’ desperate demand drives local precious metals premiums through the roof.

“Turkey is witnessing a significant increase in gold smuggling, with security forces seizing about 350 kilograms of smuggled gold at border crossings so far this year,” wrote Mackenzie Crow in an article published Thursday. “This figure already surpasses 60% of the total gold seized in the entirety of 2023. A notable incident involved the discovery of 88 kilograms of gold bars, valued over $6 million, hidden under the car seats in the eastern province of Van, near the Iranian border.”

The extreme demand for the precious metal has resulted in a price premium that is 7% above international spot prices, or $5,000 per kilogram, which Crow said is drawing in individuals looking to make a quick profit, as well as organized crime.

“The underlying cause of the smuggling surge is a significant premium on gold within Turkey, driven by a combination of high retail demand and a state-imposed cap on gold imports,” he said. While Turks, like the citizens of most countries, have always relied on gold as a stable store of value in times of economic instability, the current period of rapidly devaluing currency and ever-increasing price inflation has pushed gold demand far beyond anything the country has seen in recent history.
...

More:

 
Turkey seems to be in a bit of a pickle:
Turkey's central bank is opting for a different monetary tightening method as it grapples with climbing inflation, after previously signaling that its rate-hiking cycle was over.

The institution sent a directive to lenders, effective Friday, instructing them to put parts of their required lira reserves into blocked accounts.

That's pushed loan rates up higher and cut the sizes of some banks' loan limits, with some lenders shrinking their commercial loan limits to 100,000 lira, or $3,100, Reuters reported Thursday.

"Some banks have stopped lending. Some banks even recall their already granted loans. This is going to cause further liquidity squeeze," Arda Tunca, an Istanbul-based economist at PolitikYol, told CNBC.
...
Turkish annual consumer price inflation soared to 67.07% in February. The strong figures have fueled concerns that Turkey's central bank, which had indicated last month that its painful eight-month-long rate-hiking cycle was over, may have to return to tightening.

"Pressures on Turkish policymakers are building ahead of the local elections on 31st March as capital inflows have slowed and FX reserves are falling again," Capital Economics wrote. ...

 
Turkey's annual inflation rose to 68.5% for the month of March, an increase on February's 67.1% inflation read, according to the Turkish Statistical Institute's report released Wednesday.
...
Much of the inflation in recent months stems from a significant increase to the minimum wage that Turkey's government mandated for 2024. The minimum wage for the year rose to 17,002 Turkish lira (around $530) per month in January, a 100% hike from the same period a year prior.
...
Analysts note that with Turkey's local elections, which took place on March 31, out of the way, pushing ahead with tighter monetary policy will likely be easier. The vote for municipal leaders across the country, which took place Sunday, saw Turkey's opposition party deal a historic blow to Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's ruling AK Party, winning the country's five largest cities and several rural areas as well.

Economic pain and steep living cost increases for ordinary Turks over the last several years played a major role in the results, political observers said.

Exercising tight control over the central bank, Erdogan for the last few years refused to raise rates, calling them "the mother of all evil" and insisting, against economic orthodoxy, that lowering rates was the way to cool inflation. This was despite declining foreign currency reserves and a rapidly weakening Turkish lira, which has lost some 82% of its value against the dollar in the last five years.

Only after appointing a new finance and central bank team in May 2023 did the central bank stage a turnaround in policy, suggesting greater independence at the bank from the executive branch of Turkey's government. But the political loss for Erdogan's party in the March local elections could make his future moves more unpredictable, some analysts say.
...


Looks like Turkey has more austerity in it's near future.
 
No gray or stuffing this Thanksgiving.
 
Looks like Turkey is branching out. Made a deal with Somalia for maritime & oil deals, military bases, etc.

Somalia gave its coastline away, here's why it matters​

Jun 1, 2024 #Somalia #Turkey #ad

#Somalia has leased all its territorial waters and marine resources to #Turkey over the next ten years. The pact is as much about Mogadishu’s security as it is about Ankara’s maritime ambitions.


16:54
 
Somalia can be a middleman for arms in Africa since Turkey is a major exporter. Maybe the Turks can takeover guard duty in the suez Canal too?
 
Theu need to reduce tariffs on imported gold.
 
In Turkey right now. Lots of construction going on in the tourist areas. The main airport in Istanbul is new. Jets are new enough. Turkish air has a direct flight Istanbul to Seattle.
I expected to get and use cash, being awarenof their crazy inflation. 70%, 50%, and 50%.

The strange part: they did not print larger denominations. Their largest bill is worth about $5! It takes a WAD of cash to purchase anything substantial.
 
I was an MP in Martial Law Turkey in the '70s and theres where I learned about the importance of gold in such societys, in the Middle East most of all. First off, the fiat currency, the Lira, was little more then arse wipe. While Turkey has come a long way since then its still not much of an Industrial economy, the Lira still trades at 40 to 1 $USD, and back then would swing wildly from 50 to 1 to 500 to 1. In my 18 mos there I never once remember spending a Lira. They wanted dollars and we didn't want to get confused.

It was probably one of the last countries where the $USD really sang. And the reason for this is it was one of the last currencys, and most valuable, that would get them what they really wanted in trade and that was gold. Since they didn't trust the Lira, and with good reason, and trusted their banks even less, with even better reason, the family bank was hidden somewhere in generational gold. And I'm talking many generations. The richest Turks were the ones with access to $USD and/or black market goods, or maybe hashish. But dealing drugs was chancy and left you with a lot of wheel to grease to get away with it. Either way the $USD was Queen while gold was king.

Istanbul had a gold market that was huge and it was unlocked with dollars or maybe pound stirling. Eastern Europe and Soviet money was ass wipe. They Hated the Reds.

I'll tell you the simple reason there is so much cousin marriage in Turkey and other Muslim countrys, or maybe even closer. Its to keep the gold within the family and its been going on for thousands of years. In Pakistan over 50% of marriages are of 1st cousins and the reason is gold.

LOL I was on a connect flight back then from Istanbul to Adana and the Pilot flew right into a T-storm. He got on the intercom and actually asked the passengers to start praying. The midnight bus rides along the mountains were even hairier. One misstep and you's be plunging thousands of feet and you'd better hope the fall killed you because there was nobody coming to help you. Turkey was a trip back then. A real trip.

There is far more private holdings in gold in Turkey then Govt.
 
Back
Top Bottom