House Republicans to vote on bill abolishing IRS, eliminating income tax

[Goldhedge]

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House Republicans to vote on bill abolishing IRS, eliminating income tax​

Vote on abolishing IRS was part of deal between Speaker McCarthy and House Freedom Caucus​

FIRST ON FOX: Republicans in the House of Representatives will vote on a bill that would abolish the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), eliminate the national income tax, and replace it with a national consumption tax.

Fox News Digital has learned that the House will be voting on Georgia Republican Rep. Buddy Carter's reintroduced Fair Tax Act that aims to reel in the IRS and remove the national income tax, as well as other taxes, and replace them with a single consumption tax.

The vote on the bill was made as part of the deal between House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., and members of the House Freedom Caucus and was pushed forward in his quest for the gavel.

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House Republicans to vote on bill abolishing IRS, eliminating income tax

Rep. Buddy Carter, R-Ga., is reintroducing a bill with several colleagues that aims to repeal the national income tax, implement a national consumption tax and abolish the IRS.

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[nickndfl]

That would almost save the USA.

 

[Joe King]

What we need, is to bring back apportionment as was intended originally by the Founders. Anything else just leads to a massively bloated, wasteful gov such as the what we currently have today.

No, the only way to have the small, limited power gov guaranteed to us in the Constitution, is to have a gov without the means to collect vast sums via such a tax system as has been created over the past 100 or so years.

For every dime ya give a politician, he'll try to find a way to spend two and then tax ya for three more. The Constitution was supposed to prevent that type of thing.

Republicans in the House of Representatives will vote on a bill that would abolish the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), eliminate the national income tax, and replace it with a national consumption tax.

So only the R's will be voting on it? What good will that do?
....and by eliminating the IRS, does that mean repealing the 16th Amendment too?

 

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President Joe Biden on Thursday pledged to reject Republican moves to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and replace the federal income tax with a national sales tax. ...

“Let me be very clear,” Biden said. “If any of these bills make it to my desk, I will veto them. I will flat veto them.”
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Republicans, newly in charge of the House of Representatives following their victory in the midterm elections, have begun considering and passing bills targeted at the IRS. Such bills, however, are not expected to pass the Senate, which remains controlled by Democrats.
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‘I will flat veto them’: Biden pledges to reject Republican tax bills

President Biden pledged to reject GOP moves to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and replace the federal income tax with a national sales tax.

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It's an exercise in political theater. Are the masses paying attention in the peanut galleries?

 

[Joe King]

It's an exercise in political theater.

So it's better for 'em to not even try addressing any of the disasters that our so-called normal politicians have created? They should just shut up and get with the program?

 

[pmbug]

So it's better for 'em to not even try addressing any of the disasters that our so-called normal politicians have created? They should just shut up and get with the program?

Is that what I said? Is that what I implied? No and no. You lament that folks won't engage in discussion with you. Maybe the way you engage with people is part of the problem.

 

[Joe King]

Is that what I said? Is that what I implied? No and no. You lament that folks won't engage in discussion with you. Maybe the way you engage with people is part of the problem.

So explain what you originally meant by it only being theater.

What are they supposed to do?

They can either try to fight for what they want, what you call theater, or they shut up and go along with the majority.

What other options are there?

 

[Voodoo]

So explain what you originally meant by it only being theater.

What are they supposed to do?

They can either try to fight for what they want, what you call theater, or they shut up and go along with the majority.

What other options are there?

He does have a bit of a point there. Remember the Obamacare votes where they voted to repeal it like 20 times but then when it could actually happen under Trump somehow the votes magically changed.

 

[pmbug]

So explain what you originally meant by it only being theater.

It's political theater because there is zero chance of the bill passing. The Rs behind this measure are doing this solely to make headlines. I'm fairly certain that you correctly understood my point with respect the the political theater comment.

However, I did not ascribe any value judgement to my statement. I did not state or imply that the political theater was either a good or bad thing. Where you went off the rails (so to speak), IMO, is by assuming that I was attaching a value judgement to the issue and then seeing fit to challenge me on your perception of my position on the issue.

In actuality, I am happy to see the fundamental taxation issue being raised and I'm hopeful that it might lead to real engagement of the issue in the public sphere.

 

[Joe King]

He does have a bit of a point there. Remember the Obamacare votes where they voted to repeal it like 20 times but then when it could actually happen under Trump somehow the votes magically changed.

That's just because of all the idiot rino's.

It's political theater because there is zero chance of the bill passing. The Rs behind this measure are doing this solely to make headlines. I'm fairly certain that you correctly understood my point with respect the the political theater comment.

At least them bringing it up opens it up to public discussion.


Which I see that you also agree with.

In actuality, I am happy to see the fundamental taxation issue being raised and I'm hopeful that it might lead to real engagement of the issue in the public sphere.

Imho, whatever it takes, even if theater, to get the light of day onto some of these issues, is a good thing.

 

[pmbug]

Maybe it gets serious consideration with a change of POTUS administration?

Rep. Earl L. “Buddy” Carter (R-GA) today introduced H.R. 25, the Fair Tax Act, a bill to replace the current tax code with a national consumption tax known as the Fair Tax.

The Fair Tax would repeal the current tax code and replace it with a single national consumption tax. In addition to eliminating all personal and corporate income taxes, the death tax, gift taxes, and the payroll tax, the Fair Tax would also eliminate the need for the Internal Revenue Service.

“The Fair Tax is exactly that – fair. It is the only tax proposal out there that is pro-growth, simple, and allows Americans to keep every cent of their hard-earned money, while eliminating the need for the IRS altogether. I’m proud to lead this Georgia-grown legislation that puts the American people, not bureaucrats, in charge of their tax rate,” said Rep. Carter.

Original co-sponsors include: Reps. Andrew Clyde (R-GA), John Carter (R-TX), Scott Perry (R-PA), Eric Burlison (R-MO), John Rutherford (R-FL), Warren Davidson (R-OH), Andy Biggs (R-AZ), Dale Strong (R-AL), Rich McCormick (R-GA), Barry Loudermilk (R-GA), and Andy Harris (R-MD).

“Hardworking Americans should not need a team of lawyers or accountants to fill out their taxes – they need a simple system that encourages growth and innovation. Taxpayers should not have IRS agents targeting them for wanting to keep more of their hard-earned money. That’s why I’m proud to support this Georgia-led legislation – to simplify our tax code and ensure more Americans have an opportunity to achieve the American Dream,” said Rep. Barry Loudermilk (GA-11).

“I’m proud to once again support The FairTax Act. This legislation provides a commonsense solution to eliminate the need for the weaponized IRS, simplify our tax code, and foster economic prosperity. It’s time to enact the FairTax so we can empower hardworking taxpayers and make the American Dream affordable again,” said Rep. Clyde.

“The Fair Tax Act would streamline and simplify our tax code, making sure everyone in our country, including illegal immigrants, pays their fair share. This Congress we have an incredible opportunity to advance a pro-growth tax agenda that allows Americans to keep more of their hard-earned dollars,” said Rep. Strong.

“The Fair Tax simplifies the system while also broadening the revenue base, ensuring everyone contributes fairly while reducing tax loopholes and unnecessary complexity. By encouraging savings and generating stable, predictable income, it provides a sustainable path to reducing our national debt and setting the course for our country to get back on the right fiscal path," said Rep. McCormick.

First introduced into the U.S. Congress in 1999 by former Georgia Congressman John Linder and then carried by Georgia Congressman Rob Woodall, the Fair Tax is the leading tax reform movement in the country. It is the only tax system that is simple, efficient, friendly to economic growth, non-discriminatory, unintrusive, and FAIR.

“The Fair Tax requires immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally to pay taxes, denies them the consumption allowance provided to all legal U. S. residents, and eliminates instances of people using taxpayer-funded resources without paying into the system. President-elect Trump has called for a secure border, the elimination of the income tax, and an overhaul of government efficiency. The Fair Tax advances all three of these goals and is must-pass legislation for 2025,” said Americans for Fair Taxation President Steve Hayes.

Carter introduces bill abolishing IRS, tax code

Rep. Buddy Carter, Serving Georgia's 1st District

buddycarter.house.gov

 

[Fatrat]

Won't matter if we won't cut spending first, all foreign aid must go, Defense budget 50%, and so on...

 

[Cigarlover]

The problem with a consumption tax is the federal government doesn't have the authority tio implement one. If they did you can bet they would already be doing it.

 

[searcher]

RE: Post 12

There are 2 links worth reading.

1 - https://buddycarter.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=10862

2 - actual bill (pdf)

https://buddycarter.house.gov/uploadedfiles/118h25.pdf

Interesting if you have a few minutes.

 

[Joe King]

The problem with a consumption tax is the federal government doesn't have the authority tio implement one. If they did you can bet they would already be doing it.

While still having the irs and all other taxes too.




What we need is a head tax, not a consumption or income tax.

Head tax, as in, if you have a head or any of your dependent's have a head, you get a tax bill for each of those heads. All heads are taxed at the same rate. No deductions.

 

[Joe King]

Won't matter if we won't cut spending first, all foreign aid must go, Defense budget 50%, and so on...

Only way to cut spending is to starve the beast of revenue.