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FYI - Jon Forest Little is the guy who runs the Silver Academy - the source directly cited by or authoring the first two articles you referenced and likely the unnamed source behind the other articles (which are poorly supported).



We have a thread here where I've tried to gather info on the military usage of silver:


And another on the critical materials list(s):

 
"Estimated". And theres plenty of credible information available if you learn to use a search engine. However there is no official Govt. sources because its considered secret in an attempt to keep prices as low as possible to prevent hysteric buying like with gold.

The real backstory lies in the usage of silver in modern weaponry and the fact that the world is building such weapons at an unprecedented rate. When I was in we had only one or two offensive missile types that we'd now consider "smart weapons", not counting ICBM's. Even during the Gulf war such weapons only made up a small percentage of deployed ordinance. In the Iraq war this % had gone up dramtically as it did during the war on terror. Now ? At this moment ? Such weaponry makes up almost the entirety of our offensive and defensive stocks. Even the dumb bombs get snap on kits that make them "smart" and its in the seekers and advanced algorithms where silver is being used at break neck speed.



So keeping silver off the "critical minerals" list may just be the Govt. avoiding the onerous regulations and over-sight that would accompany such a classification. That and the fact there is still a whole lot of the metal being mined and much of it in fairly stable supply chains which are necessary for the America that has to import so much of it even tho we have somewhat ample reserves. But why the secrecy then ?

Well now in 2025 there has been a revolution in the arms race in the form of 100% of the ordinance we would consider "smart" weapons would be used in the opening days of a campaign. Including such designs as hyper-sonic missilery, which use copious amounts of silver. But the use of the metal in the electronics and seeker tech is only the beginning. We use it in the entire spectrum of military technology's today including such emerging ones like A.I., that allow missilery to actually "think" on their own to change attack parameters according to fluctuating defense variables. Radars like the emerging SPY-6 naval radars, which are extremely powerful devices, are another example of silver being needed for military applications. And a lot of is as well.

And its so necessary I could type for hours listing all the applications silver is needed for military use. But I hope Ive made my point already.
thank you for taking the time to post some research....i will say this ....yes i think weaponry and any complex electrical devices will need silver....AI and robotics will need silver etc...

the research you posted most of which i have seen before all approach the subject of silver in weaponry in what i view as a clouded speculative manner, over the years i have taken the approach in things like this to look for "hard facts"..... i do understand the DOD might be underplaying silver usage for reasons unknown.... i also understand that article writers might be overplaying the issue to their own benefit ...

i am perfectly happy letting people follow their own beliefs and many times they turn out to be very accurate, as in religion its fruitless to argue beliefs,

you may be very right that DOD silver demand is what is underpinning the current silver up market right now ......to me it seems the current silver movement is currently tied to dollar weakness not a silver supply shortage

talking to retail metal dealers retail demand sure isnt whats driving things
 
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thank you for taking the time to post some research....i will say this ....yes i think weaponry and any complex electrical devices will need silver....AI and robotics will need silver etc...

the research you posted most of which i have seen before all approach the subject of silver in weaponry in what i view as a clouded speculative manner, over the years i have taken the approach in things like this to look for "hard facts"..... i do understand the DOD might be underplaying silver usage for reasons unknown.... i also understand that article writers might be overplaying the issue to their own benefit ...

i am perfectly happy letting people follow their own beliefs and many times they turn out to be very accurate, as in religion its fruitless to argue beliefs,

you may be very right that DOD silver demand is what is underpinning the current silver up market right now ......to me it seems the current silver movement is currently tied to dollar weakness not a silver supply shortage

talking to retail metal dealers retail demand sure isnt whats driving things
It isn't so much the use of silver in weapons development ; Its more the world wide scope of armament, the degree advanced armament, of the countries both producing and buying at this time, and lastly what the future portends. And it portends a whole lot of advanced missiles, drones, A.I. algorithms, and other stuff straight out of a Sci Fy movie. I'm in my late '60s, a USAF veteran, and even I find it hard to believe the advancement in weaponry just in my life time. Look at the exponential growth since just the Gulf war when only a tiny amount of weapons were considered "smart". In the opening days of a Hyper-War conflict today virtually 100% of munitions expended would be considered "smart".

And heres the thing. Advancements in technology dont happen at a set "established" pace that anyone controls. In effect they happen at a pace thats exponential that nobody controls. To imagine this imagine a snowball rolling downhill going faster and faster, getting larger and larger, the more time its rolling. Thats the pace of technological innovation especially in such a sensitive area as defense is. One that we know uses a whole lot of silver. And thats why in 2025 America will import a record amount, and percentage of, silver despite our own ample stocks.

And were not a little player when it comes to production ; Were in the top 10 and I'd bet the only reason we aren't bigger are the environmental controls we enforce, that, and the ease of secure import chains.

But tho I can't put a number on it the use of silver in defense production is huge and the production lines for our high tech weaponry and devices are going full steam. As are those of others. The same can be said of nickle in WW2 production when the access to the huge nickle mines in Canada, which we still have, allowed us the ability to become the Arsenal of Democracy in producing the nickle/steel alloys which allowed us to make the weapons that won the war.

In contrast Germany, and especially Japan, had big problems with their nickle supplys and supplys of other critical minerals and metals. The ME-262 Jet Fighter and Type XXl submarine, both war winning weapons, had their production delayed due to the problems they had getting advanced alloys for both. The ME-262 alone, and programs of other jet fighters, suffered from the Germans being unable to import and produce cobalt, nickel and chromium alloys for their engines, limiting the lifespan of a jet engine to 25 hours with an overhaul every 10 hours.

The exponential use of silver in both Industrial, Military, and civilian use will I believe only grow. I dont think it could be stopped even if we wanted to because the world has become, more and more, a high technology/electronic world.
 
It isn't so much the use of silver in weapons development ; Its more the world wide scope of armament, the degree advanced armament, of the countries both producing and buying at this time, and lastly what the future portends. And it portends a whole lot of advanced missiles, drones, A.I. algorithms, and other stuff straight out of a Sci Fy movie. I'm in my late '60s, a USAF veteran, and even I find it hard to believe the advancement in weaponry just in my life time. Look at the exponential growth since just the Gulf war when only a tiny amount of weapons were considered "smart". In the opening days of a Hyper-War conflict today virtually 100% of munitions expended would be considered "smart".

And heres the thing. Advancements in technology dont happen at a set "established" pace that anyone controls. In effect they happen at a pace thats exponential that nobody controls. To imagine this imagine a snowball rolling downhill going faster and faster, getting larger and larger, the more time its rolling. Thats the pace of technological innovation especially in such a sensitive area as defense is. One that we know uses a whole lot of silver. And thats why in 2025 America will import a record amount, and percentage of, silver despite our own ample stocks.

And were not a little player when it comes to production ; Were in the top 10 and I'd bet the only reason we aren't bigger are the environmental controls we enforce, that, and the ease of secure import chains.

But tho I can't put a number on it the use of silver in defense production is huge and the production lines for our high tech weaponry and devices are going full steam. As are those of others. The same can be said of nickle in WW2 production when the access to the huge nickle mines in Canada, which we still have, allowed us the ability to become the Arsenal of Democracy in producing the nickle/steel alloys which allowed us to make the weapons that won the war.

In contrast Germany, and especially Japan, had big problems with their nickle supplys and supplys of other critical minerals and metals. The ME-262 Jet Fighter and Type XXl submarine, both war winning weapons, had their production delayed due to the problems they had getting advanced alloys for both. The ME-262 alone, and programs of other jet fighters, suffered from the Germans being unable to import and produce cobalt, nickel and chromium alloys for their engines, limiting the lifespan of a jet engine to 25 hours with an overhaul every 10 hours.

The exponential use of silver in both Industrial, Military, and civilian use will I believe only grow. I dont think it could be stopped even if we wanted to because the world has become, more and more, a high technology/electronic world.
same age range ...seen the same things......one of my speculations is that while weapon systems are using more silver and other products different than earlier generations of weapons....the mass/size of the components are much smaller vs earlier systems ....in other words while more and more systems are using smarter tech ...that tech is getting so small that large amounts of components like silver while used in everything are very small in mass per unit

i like you come from a generation where switches ...wires...etc were significant in size to be held in your hand .....where now there can be literally thousands printed in graphene on a microscopic level ...

just putting out why i question the actual volume of demand some put out there for "secret" military components ...it seems conveniently obscure in nature and thus manipulatable....

for example the common assertment seen on the internet that each cruise missile contains 1kg of silver seems like a convenient assertment that furthers a narrative but cant ever be confirmed unlike discussing solar panel usage that can be verified and quantified
 
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same age range ...seen the same things......one of my speculations is that while weapon systems are using more silver and other products different than earlier generations of weapons....the mass/size of the components are much smaller vs earlier systems ....in other words while more and more systems are using smarter tech ...that tech is getting so small that large amounts of components like silver while used in everything are very small in mass per unit

Respectfully this kind of thinking would seem flawed because much of the reliance of silver is on its use in battery and energy retention technology and in that respect the reliance on silver is much higher. Its also going to become more and more important in civilian use as new breakthroughs with silver/oxide batterys are being made. Its in the Industrial/consumer market where I think your mass/size opinion is most relevant.
 
I just found some silver kilo bars I forgot about because I like to spread them out on the rug and roll around in them after I consume THC. Then I forget where I stashed them. I also forgot a few passwords if ya'll could help me out?
 
I just found some silver kilo bars I forgot about because I like to spread them out on the rug and roll around in them after I consume THC. Then I forget where I stashed them. I also forgot a few passwords if ya'll could help me out?
I had to laugh.

Not because I use THC. Because I'm entering the age where forgetfulness goes beyond just an inconvenience.

I have forgotten some vital events in the last six months. Not Tax Time or any passwords, but other things - like a large deposit I made in a bank account. Relatively large, anyway. Sold some toy, and got four figures for it...all was well, and then I was checking the balance two months later...where did THIS come from?

That's frightening. What happens when I forget where I had that boating accident?

I'm not joking.
 
I just found some silver kilo bars I forgot about because I like to spread them out on the rug and roll around in them after I consume THC. Then I forget where I stashed them. I also forgot a few passwords if ya'll could help me out?
I just call the NSA when I forget passwords or want to recover deleted emails/files, etc.
 
I just found some silver kilo bars I forgot about because I like to spread them out on the rug and roll around in them after I consume THC. Then I forget where I stashed them. I also forgot a few passwords if ya'll could help me out?
Ahh... passwords. Like those on my 15-year old computer that absolutely died and buried them all?

Disaster.
 
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