India's government seeks to dissuade people from investing in gold

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India's gold and silver imports are expected to have declined substantially to USD 2-2.5 billion in June following recent steps taken by the government as well as the RBI to curb imports of the yellow metal.

. These imports grew 89 per cent to USD 8.39 billion in May

The final figures for gold and silver imports will be released by the Commerce Ministry by the middle of this month.


http://www.mydigitalfc.com/news/gold-silver-imports-may-have-dipped-2-25-bn-june-593

I'm sure the black market is picking up a lot of the slack but 8 billion to 2 billion is a big drop...
 

More: http://bullmarketthinking.com/india...cit-crushes-demand-by-86-with-punitive-taxes/
 
Yip...

Expect places like UAE and India's neighboring countries to suddenly have HUGE increases in gold imports.
 
This might also partially explain the gold shortages in Hong Kong right now.
 
Yip again.

The Indian government also better hope that this stabilises the Rupee, because if it keeps getting weaker and people can't get gold & silver, watch out...

Also the Indian wedding season is coming up at the end of September and if there's not enough supply around for people to engage in their sacred, traditional cultural practice that dates back THOUSANDS of years, again, watch out..
 
Yeah any of the neighboring countries.

In an attempt to control revenue leakage and gold smuggling to India, Nepal has decided to closely monitor the import and distribution of gold. (09/06/2013)

http://www.bullionstreet.com/news/nepal-to-strictly-monitor-gold-import/2025

The hub for bringing gold into India is Dubai, but gold can enter the country from other directions as well. "Illegal gold may enter through borders adjoining Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan and Shri Lanka," said Bachhraj Bamalva, director, GJF.

GFMS Thomson Reuters has estimated 102 tonnes of gold entered the country through unofficial routes last year. In the current year, smuggling is expected to be much higher.

http://www.business-standard.com/ar...o-see-gold-imports-dip-20-113060601016_1.html
 
Even with the huge collapse in gold imports in June, India is still tightening gold imports further! Me thinks maybe they do it because the West is telling them too...



RBI further tightens gold import rules to tame demand



http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...rules-to-tame-demand/articleshow/21248707.cms

Good luck...
 
Speaking of which...

80% dip in gold imports linked to rampant smuggling

Financial intelligence agencies are alarmed by the steep and sudden fall in gold imports recorded for June, suggesting large-scale smuggling of the yellow metal since import duty was increased from 6% to 8%


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...to-rampant-smuggling/articleshow/21198956.cms
 
Gold Smuggling Takes Off in India


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323971204578626420651144876.html

The numbers (10 x more arrests and 10x more gold seized than same period last year.) indicate up to a 1000% rise in smuggling.

& considering Thomson Reuteurs estimated about 102 tonnes of gold was smuggled into India last year, a 1000% increase would indicate up to a 1000 tons being smuggled this year and considering they imported 162 tons 'officially' in May. That's not unreasonable.

Indias attempts to curb real money = FAIL :rotflmbo:


But that won't stop them trying...

Kothari, or PK, as he is known in Zaveri Bazaar, has revved up a cumulative turnover of Rs1.2 lakh crore over the past six years, earning the title of India's 'bullion king'.

An intimidating force of about 100 income-tax officials raided RSBL's (his) offices last month.

Kothari claims. "I will shut down all my trade if the I-T department finds a single bogus entry in RSBL's accounts," dares Kothari.

http://articles.economictimes.india.../40771745_1_rsbl-bullion-king-bullion-trading
 
That's still a cheaper premium than what folks are paying in Hong Kong isn't it?
 
That's still a cheaper premium than what folks are paying in Hong Kong isn't it?

Yes, I think the premiums in Hong Kong have been up around $30 an ounce.

I googled again and a reuters article from Monday quotes the same organisation as saying

Premiums jumped to $25-30 an ounce on London prices as against $20 an ounce last week, said Bachhraj Bamalwa, a director at the All India Gems and Jewellery Trade Federation, adding "there is massive shortage of gold due to restrictions."

http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/07/29/markets-india-precious-idINL4N0FZ23J20130729

So yeah that sounds more like the comparable number.

(I guess the $10 number must be referencing a different point in the supply chain or something.)
 
The finance ministry lifted the import tax on gold to 10% from 8%. The tax on silver was also raised to 10%, from 6%. India is the world's biggest gold consumer and a leading market for silver.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324769704579010164286710906.html

I don't know how guys like bronsuchecki can suggest the bullion banks aren't involved in the RBI decision making. Because the total annual global supply of silver only equals 20 Billion dollars, and even if India took an increased share of that it wouldn't make a big difference to their current account deficit, (Which is the reason they 'claim' they are implementing all these controls...)
 
I just realised that every time they raise the gold import tax in India they also raise the value of the gold Indian people already own.

If person A has to choose between paying 'X' + 10% tax at a store or buying from a friend @ X + 8/9%, he would most likely choose the second option.

So whenever the RBI says 'we are raising the import tax', they are really saying 'we are increasing the value of the gold you already own.'

In fact thanks to the falling rupee & the government taxes, gold only has to gain another 100 bucks for gold to start setting new highs in Rupees!

If either gold keeps running up &/or the Rupee continues its decline we might even see an effective price of 100 000 rupees per ounce in the next month, that will be a magic number for the Indians, especially with a crashing currency & I think then you'll really see the meaning of the words 'gold rush'
 

http://gata.org/node/12935

I hope India does not go "full bore Argentina".
 
The Indian government have taken so many steps to curb gold demand this year, that it's hard to keep track of them all. This is a good summary that I stumbled across from Reuters.


http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/08/19/india-gold-timeline-idINDEE97I08O20130819
 
India bans all ownership of gold ...

then silver .....

then everything that is not paper .......

that ought to do it
 

More: http://bullmarketthinking.com/india...ll-factories-and-workshops-are-shutting-down/
 
Gold hits all time high in Rupees.



http://www.zerohedge.com/node/478150

So everyone who bought gold at anytime in India is now in the green vs. keeping their money in a bank. (In Rupees)
Also there is a 10% tax now, so the real value of the gold is even higher.
(Plus as PMBug's, post above shows the black market price is much higher than even that!)

Coming soon to a country near you.
 
I think India is now officially the "next Argentina".


More (incl. timeline): http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-...lear-signs-indias-currency-was-set-epic-crash
 
Well folks, the [non-black-market] Indian gold market has opened back up:


http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/09/04/india-gold-idINL4N0H025C20130904

 
I just got a notice today, that the biggest gold smuggling bust at an Indian airport occurred recently. Two women in their mid-20s working as mules for a gold smuggling ring had special jackets with pouches strapped to their bodies under burqas. They were each toting 10 kg in gold bars. They were ratted out by someone, and customs officials were waiting on them. I ran the currency conversion this afternoon, and the 20 kg in gold was worth $939,000, and the minimum profit if they'd pulled it off would have been $97,000.

Since the per capita income for India is something like $8,000, no wonder everyone and their dog is trying to smuggle gold.
 

More: http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/content/en//mineweb-gold-news?oid=218539&sn=Detail
 
Hmm, the only way I could see this going through is if the coins were made with gold seized from smuggling attempts. That way, no affect on CAD, and it's money in government coffers. They've probably seized at least a few tons of gold this year.
 
Why dont the Indian Gov / central bank just sell their gold to their people ?

This will give em lots of money to spend on useful gov functions the Indian gold remains in India and everyone is happy .............
 
Well, before these gold import restrictions went into place, you could walk into any big post office in India and buy "India Post" gold coins in 1oz and fractional sizes. IIRC, they were made by PAMP for the Indian post office.

With no gold mines in India (maybe one or two dinky ones) all the gold has to be imported. The smuggling is so bad now, they're catching hundreds of kg of gold a month, buy 90%-95% is getting though. That money is still leaving India, it just isn't being recorded.

I believe the government auctions the seized gold, but it takes a minimum of 6 months for the courts to release the gold. The government is supposed to auction it off, but I wonder how much actually gets to auction, and who is allowed to bid?
 

http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/12/03/india-gold-smuggling-idINDEE9B20HY20131203
 
...well, as history shows us, prohibition in any shape or form never works, but it finances the gangs very effectively. The more severe it is, the better gangs would be supplied financially.

But hey, who cares about destructive unintended consequences, definitely not idiot politicos

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Love this story...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-...ht-dubai-india-was-found-carrying-1-kilo-gold

Almost Every Passenger On A Flight From Dubai To India Was Found Carrying 1 Kilo Of Gold

 
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I know, doesn't that rock? I heard that it was jewelry stores advertising in Dubai travel agencies, but in any case, it's funny! I'd love to see every person on that plane deboarding with a s--t eating grin on their face as they line up for customs.
 
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-...-imports-stall-steep-increase-smuggling-india

Pakistan Enforces 30-Day Ban On Gold Imports To Stall "Steep Increase" In Smuggling To India

Pakistan has noticed the surge in smuggling, concerned at a steep increase in import duties on gold in a "neighboring country," and has imposed a 30-day ban on gold imports to curb the 'trade'.

Definitely 'feels like' events are speeding up now again in the gold market, will have to see how it all plays out...
 
I saw that on ZH, but couldn't find the original article on Bloomberg to confirm. There's rumors that Delhi is going to back down on import restrictions and maybe even lower the import tariff, but I haven't found anything concrete yet.

It would make sense, as the elections are in May and we're getting close to the spring wedding season. Also, most Indians are hating the ruling party right now, if the press can be believed.
 

http://www.resourceinvestor.com/2014/04/07/gold-premiums-tumble-in-india
 
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