Intraday gold price manipulation (10 am ET)

Welcome to the Precious Metals Bug Forums

Welcome to the PMBug forums - a watering hole for folks interested in gold, silver, precious metals, sound money, investing, market and economic news, central bank monetary policies, politics and more. You can visit the forum page to see the list of forum nodes (categories/rooms) for topics.

Why not register an account and join the discussions? When you register an account and log in, you may enjoy additional benefits including no Google ads, market data/charts, access to trade/barter with the community and much more. Registering an account is free - you have nothing to lose!

Just like yesterday, the CRIMEX is in lala land. Totally out of nowhere, gold fell right at the opening bell (8 am ET) :flail:
 
Looks like someone really wants gold back under 1650 and silver back under 30.50
 
Look at the silver one hour Kitco chart. Same same.

It looks like someone is defending 34 against someone unloading paper. Just like yesterday only more volatile today.
 
It's all so unbelievably obvious. The CFTC knows what's going on... and nothing will ever happen.
 
It's all so unbelievably obvious. The CFTC knows what's going on... and nothing will ever happen.

At some point, and I believe that point to be well and truly overdue, we will see the result of decades of manipulation explode. When the true nature of the silver shortage is finally exposed through the failure to deliver metal and the accompanying forced payout in fiat [per the published covenants on the Crimex/LBMA] we will see fireworks travel around the world, and PM prices will find their true equilibrium.

When one looks at inflation over the years, and places silver on a graph with the historical prices and where it should be based upon simple mathematics, using demand stats and the rate of inflation, silver should be multiples of her current "price" higher.

Suffice it to say, when the shit hits the fan, us silver/gold bugs will be richly rewarded. As we all know, when prices move rapidly, there is nearly always overshoot. Just like the Hunt Brothers, I think silver will overshoot by around 50% of equilibrium, and I will be that guy, the one who sells three quarters of his holdings, sits on the bling, then buys back in after the mania subsides. That my friends, is when Ancona retires to the place in the Keys!
 
Several credible sources have claimed that wednesday's takedown was triggered by a single seller who sold 31 tonnes of gold (futures) at once. Subsequently several stop losses got triggered and the massive $100 waterfall decline took place.
I've tried to research that and it seems to be true: The first seller dumped such a huge package on the market.
If you wanted to get rid of such a gigantic position, you wouldn't do it in one trade, because you fully know that you won't get an attractive price. So this definitely smells like intervention.
However, this was just the first seller. PMs were overbought anyway and speculative positions with tight stops had to wiped out irregardless. Right now, it seems like the market has been cleared somewhat and is positioned to continue the rally which started at the beginning of 2012. Two big hurdles are:
1. the DXY might go up for a while on EUR weakness, because the Greek default is rapidly approaching.
2. Oil and other commodities might drag down gold as well once the Iran fear trade is unwound.
 
Today is the very prototype of classical intraday gold COMEX manipulation which statistically starts at 8 am ET and lasts to 10 am ET. Witness how gold starts plummetting belwo $ 1700 immediately after the COMEX opening.

First today's chart
 
Well.. the dollar is up about 1% so I can see the justification for algos selling gold into that. However, the fact bids came in and cleaned it up shows there was some strong hands down there. I still think the correction wont end till the start of april though, probably with making a nominal new low for the move.
 
As observed above, the rapid rise in the gold price started right after 10 am ET on friday (3-9). As we all know, this is when the London pm (post meridiem) gold fixing takes place.

Here's an interesting explanation for that:
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldn...al_Buying_in_London_Reverses_Gold_Market.html

Full audio of the interview:
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingwo...Caesar_Bryan_files/Caesar Bryan 3:10:2012.mp3
 
Now down $33... Quite a dump gold is taking!

I looked at the usual sites (Turd, ZH, kitco, 24hgold) and have seen NOTHING about why gold is down so much!
 
Now down $33... Quite a dump gold is taking!

I looked at the usual sites (Turd, ZH, kitco, 24hgold) and have seen NOTHING about why gold is down so much!

It's the news of the "stress tests" passing for all the US banks. Last 30 minutes of a thin market...
 
It is paper getting dumped on the market. Silver Doc reported that 100+ million ounces of silver paper was sold in sync with the FOMC and silver only lost fractions of a dollar in stead of dollars.
 
It started right at 2:15pm when the FOMC announcement was made...
I called it by the way
 
Looks like I picked a good day to ride rollercoasters with my boys (spring break mini vacation).
 
I bet you something that the COMEX closing bell in 3 minutes will be the intraday low
 
/\
||


Told you so! COMEX close was the intraday low...





Same for silver



Maybe the options trader of JPM (the major pm options underwriter) unloaded his position into the COMEX close today. He needed a large position to manipulate yesterday's option expiry prices. Tommorow is futures expiry so it would also be great to "prepare" the physical deliveries on these April futures by lowering spot prices :doodoo: ...
 
Guys,

You MUST read that piece on Christmartenson.com, on the gold price manipulation. It is brilliant, short, to the point, and few quite striking charts:

http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/gold-manipulated-thats-okay/72892


For me, it is best laid down explanation, and common-sense proof, that I've seen to date - but I must confess I am not following too many of them, since they are hardly relevant to me, and frankly, a lot of them doesn't really struck a chord with my reasoning. That one does, big time, it is such an "in your face" argumentation, that for me it is beyond any rational doubt.

Buy physical
 
Slightly off topic, but:
Hammer => nail head

I once took a multi-month intensive course in applied psychology and this rings so true. Strong emotional reactions are rooted in psychology and not rational deliberation. Few people spend the time to deconstruct their world view ("themselves") enough to be aware of their own emotional blocks.

I suspect that folks with an engineering disposition are more likely to embrace a logical re-examination of their own thought processes and seek an honest view of reality, and that seems to be evident from the very small sampling of hard core peeps who have found their way here so far, but the fact remains that it's only a small percentage of people who can meet Col. Jessup's challenge:



"You can't handle the truth!"
 
Yeah, that is my father. He thinks a dollar will always be worth a dollar and accepted as such, "forever".

That's okay though. If things work out the way I'm planning, I'll be taking care of him when he's old, like he took care of me when I was young.
 
Following on the heels of Chris Martenson's excellent expose, GATA highlights another analysis:
http://gata.org/node/11187
 
Re: Yesterday's sharp drop...
http://gata.org/node/11306


http://traderdannorcini.blogspot.com/2012/04/fat-finger-in-silver-too.html

One minute chart of the trade: http://traderdannorcini.blogspot.com/2012/04/one-minute-chart-of-gold-7501-contracts.html

750K troy ounces = 25.7 tons or approximately 1.3% of annual global production. Not as dramatic as another day, but still bigger than the average investor can handle.
 
Textbook CRIMEX selloff today, look at the white area which covers the CRIMEX trading hours:
[/IMG]
 
Today has to be the most obvious manipulation in Crimex history.
Somebody pegged gold at 1588 for two hours and then banged it below the support at 1580 to close at 1579. I've never seen it that obvious before.
 
Epic banging the CRIMEX close in gold today. Got to get it below $1720



FYI:

http://www.risk.net/energy-risk/glossary/2038548/banging-close
 
Watch out in 7 minutes for the jobs report. Numbers are going to be election "oriented", i.e. manipulated higher. That could be bad for pms.
 
Whistling past the graveyard.

Nothing to see here folks.......move along.

Circus tickets to the right.

Bread line to the left.

"I'm sorry sir, but you can't enter the grocery store until we complete a cavity search......you might be a terrorist."
 
Last edited:
And another low volume attack just 15 minutes ago, uncorrelated to any other market.
 
Election is just a few days away. Remain calm. All is well.
 
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more…