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And we in the west are to dumb to realize they had this capability and didn't bother using it, not even now. However, it is now on the table since we have gone in and decided to destroy their country. Before this there is no way Russia and especially China would allow Iran to attack anyone with nukes.

Look at the missile accuracy of Iran, not much a leap to think they could have easily (or with a little help) built a nuke. But they didn't because they didn't want to.

I keep seeing stories about them being the #1 sponsor of terrorism as well. All the funding coming from them. Yet no-one talks about the more than 2 billion a year the US gives the Taliban and Al Qaeda. I think that puts Iran in the #2 spot.

Let's go even deeper.
Iraq. We tried to blame them for 9/11 with 0 evidence. Then it was WMD' again with no evidence
Syria, no idea WTF we were doing there
Afghanistan. Other than securing the poppies not much accomplished.
Libya, got rid of Kadaffi which left a power vacuum and the place is still in shambles
And now Iran. Again, no evidence of any nuclear program other than enriching uranium. Even so, who is the US or any other country to decide who can and cant have nukes? I imagine if they did have one that could reach anywhere in the world they probably wouldn't be getting hammered right now.

So the #2 sponsor of terrorism wants the US out of the Middle East. Based on the above it seems like a reasonable request.

As for service members getting harmed in the past, would those same service members have gotten harmed if the US military stayed on US soil and protected US?
Oh but then we get the argument that the US is just protecting US interests. The oil. Except trump has come out and said repeatedly over the last week that the US doesn't need oil from the ME because we produce enough of our own.

So there has been how many invasions of other countries over there now and we destroy everything in every one of them but Iran is the terrorists?
 
The US and Israel hit Irans nuclear facility today. Of course Iran responded and dropped a missile close to Israels nuclear facility.

This thing is going to spiral out of control. Russia and China both have already warned about it.

When Martin said the war cycle ramps up this year, he wasn't kidding.
 
The facts laid out. Great discussion of what Trump is doing.

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I'm sure Iran would love to drag the world into WWIII. Death to America as they say.
 
Israel you mean, Iran isn't blackmailing or bribing our politicians...
 
I've never known an Israeli suicide bombers, they didn't invent jihad. Is there any limits the zealots in Iran would not go to?
 
Are the Iranians really the terrorist masterminds the US and Israeli media claim? The Israelis are masters of the false flag attack, The King David hotel, the Lavon affair, and the USS Liberty being famous examples. It could be argued that the US is a sponsor of terrorism, bombing weddings, funerals, SOP second strikes to kill first responders, and of course famously claimed the murder of half a million Iraqi children was "worth it". I don't think the Iranians are saints, but the western definition of terrorist seems to hinge largely on opposition to Zionism.
As for the Turks, they are keenly aware that Israel has threatened them as being next after Iran.
I agree that The City of London is certainly not full of good guys. Interestingly, it is dominated by Zionist Jews. There is a lot going on under the surface that we do not have information on. My best guess is two or more factions of The Powers That Be are fighting for control. Unfortunately for us, I suspect it is unlikely that any of those factions are good guys. But what do I know?
 
We could drop care packages by air that are contaminated with smallpox?
 
.41Dave said:
The Israelis are masters of the false flag attack, The King David hotel, the Lavon affair, and the USS Liberty being famous examples.
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Just posting as interesting reading. As with anything I post, dyodd.

King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia

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Lavon Affair - Wikipedia

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USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia

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USS L.V.A. | Never Forget USS Liberty | June 8 1967

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Dipshit Trump is fighting a tarbaby and wondering why his hands keep getting stuck, making more vile WW111 threats as he fails futility...
 
We will find out how good a job we did when we invade, this talking reminds me of how we absolutely crushed Japanese defenses on Iwo Jima, Tarawa, Betio Island just to name a few, only to find out the Japs were still waiting. Notice the cowardly israelis will not be taking the lead...
 

You know what's funny though?

Democrats controlled the House, the Senate, and the White House and somehow you never eliminated hunger for a decade.

But you know what did get funded??

>$6 billion to Iran.
>Gender studies programs in Pakistan.
>DEI coordinators at every federal agency.
>87,000 new IRS agents.
>A $400 million embassy in Kabul that we abandoned.
>NGOs that can't account for where the money went.
>Ukraine aid with zero audit trail.
>COVID contracts to companies that didn't exist.
>PPP loans to people who didn't have employees.

USAID spent years shoveling money into programs nobody approved, nobody tracked, and nobody could explain.

So before you post about hungry people...

Maybe ask yourself why YOUR party that ran on feeding them has been in power for decades in every major American city...

...and those cities have the highest poverty, the worst schools, and the most homeless people in the country

You can be against the war, you can make that case.

But you don't get to pretend the alternative was EVER the hungry children.

The Democrats were never sending money to them.
It was NEVER going to the veterans.
It was NEVER going to the schools.

You didn't forget the poor.

YOU NEED them TO WIN.

A problem solved is a fundraising opportunity lost... that's why it's never fixed.

That's why and we all know it.
 
Actually, iran only got back the money we stole from them for the fighter planes we refused to deliver....
 
Iran has come out and said it was not them that fired Missiles at Diego Garcia. Someone must have the telemetry from when those were launched. I have no idea what the truth is.

Martin says this ramps up summer of this year through 2028. Also recession until 2028.
 
Another Lie. Lie after Lie after Lie after Lie from this bunch. A bunch of Theocratic nut jobs that hold on to power by machine gunning their citizens in the streets by the thousands. Few of you have been in such countries but I have and if you think America is anything like them I hope you enjoy your dream world. Better yet buy a plane ticket and go see for yourself.

Should you survive you'll come back more appreciative of the rights and opportunities America gives you. Of course should things go sour they just might string you up in the public square for "Crimes against God", of if your lucky just a beat down and a long sentence in one of their charming jails. 18 mos in Martial Law Turkey gave me a pretty good idea of what modern Iran is like today which is their business I guess until they start pouring billions from their already wrecked economy to build Long range missiles with eventual thermo-nuclear warheads on them.

BTW Mattis is a whiny little bitch still crying because he didn't get his way for everything under Trump-1. This war with Iran was inevitable, the question was "how do you want to fight it"? Nobody "wanted" it but a nation that would send thousands of their children barefoot thru minefields to clear them for their infantry, that would finance terror on a mass scale, that would constantly scream "death" to us, cannot be allowed to have nuclear warheads and delivery systems.

And thats the bottom line.
 
Falafel has already doubled in price at the shawarma stand, but I don't know if that's from the war or existing inflation?
 
Inflation no doubt, but since I'll blame Trump, either is good.
 
You really don't think currency manipulation is possible by flooding another country with counterfeit currency or paper gold and silver contracts??? Germany intended to flood England with bogus paper...
 
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