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Which supports the Narrative that this was Nuttin' Yahoo's war; that Trump was USED...he, or his handler-underlings were SOLD this war, as something that would be over in days. And once that proved to be a grotesque mis-reading, as always happens with Neo-Conn "Regime Change" attempts...Trump, or his handlers, wanted OUT.

Yahoo doesn't want out. Yahoo wants to be Samson, and level the whole world, and be in the center of the rubble, a martyr.

So now we're gonna find out how independent the Tech-Bro's and RINOs are, of Israel, once things get ugly.
 
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gcaptain.com

Hormuz Is Reopening. Shipping's Old Playbook Isn't.

As the reports of a deal between the US and Iran are top headlines, again, shipowners will be looking at the financial implications and alternatives if Iran’s plan to charge...
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How 'bout that.

Iran is not defeated; not made impotent. Which USED to be the POINT of war. Nobody worried about German antiaircraft or U-Boats in the ocean, once Germany was defeated.

This war, wasn't a war. It was...something else; and nothing accomplished.

Proof: Right here. Iran could mine the straits tonight, and aside from blustering and a few moar million-dollar missiles, nothing would be done.

This is INSANE. War is to be the LAST option, when all others fail...and once started...BEFORE it starts...there has to be the resolution to fight to conclusion, which MUST be capitulation.
 
TNR podcast here. Nothing to see, can listen in one tab, play around the forum in a different tab. Make of it what you will.

newrepublic.com

Trump’s Dim-Witted Tirade Accidentally Reveals Iran Deal’s a Sham

As Trump’s agreement with Iran starts looking even worse under scrutiny, Tom Nichols of The Atlantic explains how this whole fiasco has left the U.S. in a weaker position than before.
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Trump should have asked for free lifetime supply of falfal and shwarma.
 
The 14 point draft — CNN

text in full:

1 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States, together with their allies in the current war, declare upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding an immediate and permanent end to the war on all fronts, including Lebanon, and undertake that from now on they will not launch any hostile action against each other, and will refrain from the threat or use of force against each other. The final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article and the remaining Articles.

2 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to respect each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and to refrain from interfering in each other’s internal affairs.

3 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States undertake to negotiate and reach a final agreement within a maximum period of 60 days, extendable by mutual consent.

4 — Immediately upon the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, the United States lift the naval blockade and prevent any interference or obstruction against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and restore traffic within a maximum of 30 days to its full capacity; the traffic of ships shall be proportional to the pre-war volume of traffic on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States also undertakes to withdraw its forces from the surrounding areas within 30 days after the final agreement.

5 — Upon signing this Memorandum of Understanding, the Islamic Republic of Iran will immediately take steps to ensure that the movement of merchant ships from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa is resumed within 30 days to the pre-war volume, taking into account the need for the removal of technical obstacles and the neutralization of mines by Iran.

6 — The United States undertakes, together with its regional partners, to create a comprehensive plan agreed upon by both parties for the rehabilitation and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran, while ensuring financing of at least $300 billion. The implementation mechanism of this plan, as part of the final agreement, will be formulated within 60 days.

7 — The United States commits to ending, on a schedule to be agreed upon as part of the final agreement, all types of sanctions currently facing the Islamic Republic of Iran, including resolutions of the United Nations Security Council and the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and all unilateral U.S. sanctions, both primary and secondary.

8 — The Islamic Republic of Iran reiterates that it will never produce nuclear weapons. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States have agreed that the fate of enriched material and the fate of all other mutually agreed nuclear-related issues, including Iran’s nuclear needs, will be adequately addressed in a final agreement; the final agreement will confirm the provisions of this Article.

9 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that, pending a final agreement, they will maintain the status quo: Iran will maintain the status quo on its nuclear program, and the United States will not impose new sanctions on Iran or strengthen its forces in the region.

10 — The United States undertakes that immediately after the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and until the date of the lifting of sanctions, the United States Treasury Department will issue waivers for exports of Iranian crude oil, petrochemical products and their derivatives, and all related services, including banking, insurance, transportation, and the like.

11 — The United States undertakes that, in light of the progress of negotiations towards a final agreement, frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran will be released and made fully available. These funds, whether held in the master account or transferred, will be used for any final beneficiary payment determined by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran and will be fully available for use. The United States undertakes to issue all necessary permits and licenses on this basis.

12 — The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States agree that an implementation mechanism will be established to oversee the successful implementation of and future commitment to the Final Agreement.

13 — Following the signing of this Memorandum of Understanding, and upon receipt of assurances regarding the commencement of implementation of Articles 4, 5, 10, and 11 of this Memorandum of Understanding, and the continued implementation of these steps, the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States will enter into negotiations for a Final Agreement solely with respect to the remaining Articles.

14 — The final agreement will be approved through a binding resolution of the UN Security Council.
 
Since neither Trump or Israel will honor this agreement long term, when does the shooting restart?
 
Crude dropping like a rock, LNG too. American economy set to take off as Irans military eviscerated. The Dems lead in Nov. down from 10 points to 0 as the Donald saves the economy.

Heres the thing. If Trump and the Republicans lose either one of the houses in Nov. then everything is for naught. He becomes and instant lame duck and the Democrats will block and/or interfere with everything he trys to do because thats what they do. They are the party of obstruction and everything they touch turns to shit. What a collection of imbeciles they are. They would gladly burn the house down just to demonize his legacy.

So we have this non-perfect deal with Iran but remember we bombed the shit out of them and they are little threat now. They will have to address their own economic/social problems at some time because things are so bad in their economy they have tens of thousands of citizens walking into heavy machine gun fire because they figure they have nothing to lose. Actually I'd bet the % of the mullahs losing power at 50/50 compared to the chance Iran could recover from the ass beating we gave them.

It was at a point where the bombing was at risk of destroying any chance of recovery for them. And don't forget "regime change" was never on the table. We set their military back decades. We opened up the gulf and got the oil flowing again. We avoided mass casualties and avoided significant damage to the energy infrastructure of our gulf friends. But most of all, most of all, MAGA gave itself a better then even chance at keeping both houses and retaining power in Nov. This was a win.
 
At best an embarrassing draw. I bet all the Iranians who were looking for help from the US to overthrow the extreme govt over there are happy.
Guy changes the name of the Dept of Defense to Dept of War loses first war. Winning bigly.
 
gcaptain.com

Trump Signs Interim Iran Deal as Focus Shifts to Hormuz

President Donald Trump signed an interim deal to end the war with Iran and reopen the Strait of Hormuz, speeding up the timeline for the agreement to go into effect despite blowback from Republicans who said it amounted to a victory for Tehran.
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Barnacle Boom: Divers Race to Clean Ships Stranded in Persian Gulf

Demand for ocean divers who specialize in barnacle scraping is soaring as ships stranded in the Persian Gulf for more than three months prepare to disembark.
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So T listened to Netty, Graham and Hegseth. I think he may realize that Netty played him (like a fiddle) and Graham and Hegseth gave him some bad advice. Wonder if he'll seek revenge and if he does, how will it play out?
 
Commentary here, take it fwiw, dyodd & make of it what you will.

An Annotated Analysis of Trump’s Iran Deal: Official agreement envisages trade relief for opening the Strait of Hormuz and limits on Iran’s nuclear program. WSJ goes paragraph-by-paragraph through the leaked draft text, marking concessions in red. The annotations are doing more work than the analysis. (Wall Street Journal)
 
and we know where it came from as well... IF you followed Q that is!



Why do certain people SHIT themselves every time Trump discusses tracing/tracking where the Iranian uranium came from once he gets a sample of it?

Because he ALREADY KNOWS where they got it from.

Same as the North Koreans.

Some of you...are not ready for this.

But it can't be helped.

The endgame approacheth.
 
Just more bullshit, iran got their rocket technology from Ollie North and Ronnie Rayguns...
 
Fatrat said:
Just more bullshit, iran got their rocket technology from Ollie North and Ronnie Rayguns...
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All they mostly got was some anti tank missiles and spare parts for surface to air missiles they already owned.

The missile tech of theirs currently in controversy, is that of long range technology.

We did NOT supply them with long range missiles or the technology to build them.

So try try again.
 
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