Is Trump going full retard?

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I'm not the only one noticing it. Trump is just going full retard on so many things. WTF happened?
With 0 evidence we just bombed the shit out of a sovereign nation.
Trump and his spat with Powell who runs an independent agency
Trump and his spat with Musk
Trump and his sort of spat with Gabbard who only 2 months ago said the intel agencies could find no evidence of Iran building a nuke. So the 100 billion a year we spend on Intelligence agencies is either wasted because they couldn't find it or someone is lying. (Probably netanyahoo and Trump)
Trump wants files on every American and Palantir is supposedly working on that IIRC.
Trump backed off tariffs because the 10 year was spiking. There is no deal to be hard there as the rest of the world also understands this and will call his bluff. Not to mention, why would any company want to move production back to the US when it is quite possible in 3 years they will have to move it out of the US once again. Add to that that we have no workforce that can fill factories and produce anything here.
Of course he said he was reversing course on the illegals and then he wasn't so honestly I cant keep up with where we are at with that right now but perhaps they could all work the factories if they were to come back to the US in the next 10 years.
Trump brings in Musk and DOGE to get at the corruption then wants a big beautiful bill passed with all of the corruption still included as well as increases in the debt and the debt limit removed.

Thanks to the illegal bombings in Iran the US is now on heightened alert for terrorism. Another brilliant move.
Sorry this isn't what I voted for. I wanted the swamp drained and lower spending overall including a huge reduction in military spending and instead we get just the opposite.
 
It's possible that Trump is acting on intelligence that he has chosen not to share with the public for whatever reasons, but that's a much longer leap of faith than I think most American's are able to bridge.

I suspect there are several factors driving the bus right now - AIPAC lobbying + Trump's desire to make a lasting legacy in his last term of office + possibly the Epstein/Mossad compromat as a fulcrum

Trump's recent declaration of war on Rep. Thomas Massie is a huge mistake for Trump and may end up propelling Massie into the White House down the road. Massie carries Ron Paul's torch and folks are waking up to just how right Ron was.
 
@Cigarlover & @pmbug 🍺 🍺🍺 Good posts.

At the risk of sounding like I have a terminal case of TDS, is there a possibility T isn't anywhere near the person that some people think him to be?

Could the Israelis have some dirt on him that they threatened to use if he didn't go along with them? Was there some kind of a monetary exchange involved? How about trying to deport people who speak derogatorily against Israel? What's that about?

Does he plan on actually leaving office once his term has expired? Let's face facts...........he likes power over others and considers himself some sort of a king.

As for Massie..........T doesn't like anyone who will not go along with and / or bow their head to him. Don't matter who you are. If you speak out about him in any way he considers you to be scum. I guess he really isn't into freedom of expression, freedom of speech so much unless he's the one doing it.

Listen to him talk, digest what he says and then look at what he does.

jm2c
 
Short answer - and I don't have facts to give a longer answer - short reply is, YES.

I can't know why. Has he finally been turned by the Deep State, or is he just THAT incapable of telling bad advice from good? I think it's the latter. It's how we got into COE-Vidd - he LISTENED to that little putz from the Mengele School of Medicine. He let his DS plants buffalo him into locking down the nation, and printing money like a drunken Democrat.

Here we go, again. Tulsi Gabbard - I hadn't thought she'd be the sole voice of rationality, but she is, and she's going the way sane people always go when a culture goes mad.

Just listened to Stanislav over on The Duran - he, as a Russian, asserts that Iran and Russia have some mutual-assistance treaties, and he claims Putin is getting feedback from Russian leaders to take a hard stance, perhaps act, in defense or retaliation.

Here we go. The Fourth Turning.
 
Casey Jones said:
... that Iran and Russia have some mutual-assistance treaties ...
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I posted about that here:

pmbug

Post in thread 'Iran'

Russia very recently signed a treaty with Iran strengthening their ties.
The Iranian–Russian Treaty on Comprehensive Strategic Partnership signed on 17 January 2025, by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian, is a treaty for the improvement of ties between the two nations. This treaty aims to expand economic cooperation, mitigate the impact of US sanctions, and strengthen military and political partnerships. The agreement is designed to govern relations between Russia and Iran for the next 20 years, covering various areas including defense...
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Whoever gave this OP its own thread, Thank you. I think it will be interesting to track going forward.

RE: CJ
good points. He never apologized for fast tracking the vaccine and in fact still takes credit for making it happen. He may have been duped but he bought into it 100%. How many has he actually killed because of it and now he set a precedence for the future to fast track things again.
 
Cigarlover said:
Whoever gave this OP its own thread, Thank you. I think it will be interesting to track going forward.

RE: CJ
good points. He never apologized for fast tracking the vaccine and in fact still takes credit for making it happen. He may have been duped but he bought into it 100%. How many has he actually killed because of it and now he set a precedence for the future to fast track things again.
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We knew what we were getting - or thought we knew. He's a vain, stubborn man, who knows little of economics - that was demonstrated his first term. Even before COE-Vidd, he talked about how Negative Interest rates would be "a really great thing."

Yeah. Great for destroying thrifty citizens. Great for fueling a malinvestment bubble, even worse than we had and still have. Trump, ever the borrower-builder, only could see the advantage to his own industry - not think through the catastrophic damage to the economy, when saving becomes a losing game, when banks have to go to government to get capital to lend.

THEN. "Operation Warp Speed." I can forgive that, initially - because I know the era he's from. He'd been taught from potty-training days, doctors are gods, and vaccines are magic. The Magic of Science.

He didn't know, few of us suspected, that it was a DS program THEY planned, and let him think he thought up, to mainline this poison into the masses.

He got duped. Exactly right.

Now he won't admit it. Not admitting it on the election path, I get - the nooze liars would have a field day with it. That's over. But his pride isn't over; and now he's showing his old-man stubbornness, in not being ABLE to re-evaluate his perceptions of reality.

IMHO, that's what's happened here. Trump is from New York. Jews are the bedrock of civilized society. Because of European persecutions, the UN created Israel. Yippee!!! Our ALLIES!!!

He can't see what's happened. Just as our own Deep State has become a Satanic force, so, too, have the same type of operators (and maybe the exact same persons) taken charge in Israel.

This was illustrated on October 7 - to anyone who's willing to see, perceive, weigh against known facts and admitted prior preconceptions, and work it through. SOMETHING WAS VERY WRONG THERE.

Trump cannot do that. Pride? Age? That he's too close to the armchair warriors like Goober Graham? Has the MIC bought him, or does the CIA finally have something on him?

I don't know. When BOTH sides are this deep in such a demented delusion, that Endless War is tolerable and even good...there's only one answer to it. Few want to hear it and advocating for it is a felony.

No, I don't mean propelling any projectiles his way. Something more fundamental. Think, July 4, 1776.
 
Trump said:
Third Rate Congressman Thomas Massie, of the Great Commonwealth of Kentucky, a phenomenal State that I won all three times (by a lot!), keeps talking about how he is going to protect the Constitution, but he is actually very bad for the Constitution, and will probably vote against “THE GREAT, BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL,” that grants the Biggest Tax Cuts in History, secures our Southern Border from Criminal Invasion, funds the Golden Dome, our Great Military and Veterans, protects our Second Amendment, grants NO TAX ON TIPS, NO TAX ON OVERTIME, and NO TAX ON SOCIAL SECURITY (for our Great Seniors!), and so much more. He is against all of the above, and many other incredible things. Why would anyone want to vote for a so-called “Congressman,” a RINO, at best, who wants to raise your Taxes by 68%, which is what will happen if, “THE GREAT, BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL” doesn’t pass. He votes, “NO!” on everything, because he thinks it makes him cool, but he’s not cool, he’s a LOSER!
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Full retard
 
From May 2022



searcher said:
As for Massie..........T doesn't like anyone who will not go along with and / or bow their head to him. Don't matter who you are. If you speak out about him in any way he considers you to be scum. I guess he really isn't into freedom of expression, freedom of speech so much unless he's the one doing it.
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Now:

See post #12

He doesn't care who you are, what you have accomplished or what kind of a person you are. If you disagree with him on anything he will publicly repudiate you.
 
pmbug said:


Full retard
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THIS bullschitte is Trump's absolute WORST aspect. He's incapable of civil discussion - he can't ignore personal invective and stick to facts. And it leads him to really-juvenile swings in his position - as with Musk, who was a dirt-bag for all of 36 hours or so, until they kissed and made up.

We ain't on the grade-school playground. We need sober, thoughtful leadership. The kind that, now, with the Iran attack, WE ARE NOT GETTING.

I'm done. Trump was this nation's last hope, and he's either been turned, gone senile, or has been unmasked.

Sadly, also, the Great Replacement program has gone to where there's really no more pure Red States or regions. Not Texas; not Colorado. Ohio, once you got out of the lakefront region, was redder than red. Now it's lousy with Haitians who aren't "just there" - they're recreating the social chaos they left, because of course, the people make the culture.

Now it's block-by-block civil war, ahead.
 
He turned into a politician. Lie about everything to get what you want and deliver on nothing and blame the other team.

Zelenski won't listen to reason and back down so he's going to arm them even more. So much for ending this on day 1. More than likely Europe will get involved and then drag the US in too.


Maybe I missed it but has anyone seen any evidence that Iran was working on a NUKE? I haven't nor have I even seen anyone ask for it.The only thing remotely close to that question was when he was asked why Tulsi Gabbard , in March, said the intelligence agencies could find no evidence Iran was working on a nuke. Trumps reply was, "she was wrong" . If she was wrong that means all the intelligence agencies were wrong as well and he suddenly has some new intel? Of course it was Israel. What do thy have on Trump that gets him to bomb Iran for no reason and also gets the investigators looking into Netanyahoo to back off. And how many navy ships did we have protecting Israel? At least 3 carrier groups.
 
He doesn't have to be in those files.

He just has to really, REALLY want those files not to be released. Else something bad happens.

I do not, repeat NOT believe he's a common pedo. He'd have been outed long ago, if that was all they had. If he could be shamed that way.

Nope...this is something worse. Told that something really bad would happen. Told by, I dunno...maybe, a special communique, from Mossad?

That doesn't absolve this behavior, of course - but just claiming he's part of the files, answers little. Bill Gates and the john, Roberts, are already implicated. You see Roberts resigning?

And that could be part of this, alternately. If important people who can and will block anything Trump is doing, are in there...Trump might be hoping to make a deal. Give them what they want - the files destroyed, and war with Russia - and then he can "move ahead."

Forgetting, as he will (if he ever understood) that his power COMES FROM HIS SUPPORT. Which he's now burning like Antifa burned Minneapolis.
 
What I heard was before the people at the FBI resigned when Trump took over in January they modified the evidence with lots of additional crap. So they don't know lots of what's real and what's fake.
 
nickndfl said:
What I heard was before the people at the FBI resigned when Trump took over in January they modified the evidence with lots of additional crap. So they don't know lots of what's real and what's fake.
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So lay it out.

Transparency. Key to keeping credibility - being believable.

Things happen; and sometimes they're done by Deep State operatives working for Davos, not for America. We can understand that.

What can't be understood - or forgiven - is sudden stonewalling and pretending what he said, and had seen, never was.

I stick by my assertion: Trump is being blackmailed. Now the thing to do, is RESIGN and then, open up as to what was happening. Maybe Vance can do better. Maybe it can't be un-farked. But when backed into a corner, the ethical position is to tender a letter of resignation.
 
Casey Jones said:
Trump is being blackmailed.
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Just a thought...........could it be T whose doing the blackmail? I have no clue, but I been wondering for the past 10 years why people who claimed he was a most despicable humanoid years ago are now singing his praises and proclaiming him savior. Think Lindsey Graham as a prime example. I really wonder what kinda dirt T must have on him. Could he be one of the biggest sickos on the planet? I don't know myself but don't understand why all sorts of congress critters get on their knees, bow their heads to T and do what ever he wants..........unless he has some super duper dirt on them.

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You go 4 years with a President who can't remember how he got on to a stage without saying a word yet you type all this nonsense about Trump ?
 
searcher said:
Just a thought...........could it be T whose doing the blackmail? I have no clue, but I been wondering for the past 10 years why people who claimed he was a most despicable humanoid years ago are now singing his praises and proclaiming him savior.
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Mossad, is my guess. Netanyahu (NutttanYahoo) is completely out of control. The Israeli Deep state is as viral as our own...maybe even is one and the same as ours. We saw how they staged the outrage - whether with Palestinian cooperation, or just knowing how they'd react, THEY DID IT.

We have reasonable information that Epstein was an "asset." Whose? Our CIA's or Mossad's?

I am not anti-Jew, or anti-Israel, but it's time to call it out. THIS war, and now Iran's staged war, is being promoted by Netanyahu, as a way to, first, condition the Israeli population, and then drag the US into his version of the Final Solution. And I'm not on board with the US being made a pawn.

Other possibilities: Davos operatives. They probably don't have direct operatives; how deeply they control Switzerland's government, is anyone's guess. Moar likely it's MI6 or MI5, perhaps another second-rate Eurotrash secret police.

The power of the nation doesn't matter, if Davos resources are behind it - and if the matter contained, is destructive enough.
 
Marty lays it out pretty well above.

The President that we all hoped would do the right thing is now going to take us into WW3. I have no idea what they have on him or what they are telling him but he's making a mistake with Russia.
Most people probably look at this Russian thing as 2 evenly matched countries that just cant get it done either way. I look at it as Russia just toying with Ukraine in hopes they will get tired of the war and just concede. Russia could end this thing tomorrow if they wanted to. They are and have been holding back this entire conflict.
It's also probably important to point out that China joins Russia in any conflict with Nato.

What does a real world war look like nowadays with Russia and China against Nato? How vulnerable is the US navy? Arguably the best Naval force in the history of the world but if Russian and Chinese missiles can take out most of it, it is useless. All of the naval fighters would then be land based and on an equal footing with the East. The east has plenty missile systems and China has system that we dont even know about since they keep that shit secret. They obviously have an extensive drone program as well. They dont need a huge arsenal of fighters to take on the F-35's if they can send 50 or 100 drones to take one down.
I guess we can use our imagination to discuss any conventional warfare scenario but does anyone even bother with it? Maybe we just go right to nukes and get it over with.
Scary chit that Trump is engaging in. All of a sudden I don't have confidence in him to do the right thing.
 
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