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I currently do not have a center-fire, semi-automatic, high capacity magazine fed rifle. (!)
I'd like a "Main Battle Rifle" that can be a go to defensive implement in unfortunate time, but mostly serve for 3 gun matches (which I am trying to get started into).
I have a VEPR AK in .223. It is a really nice AK, but mags are a pain. The factory makes 5rd and 10rd mags, and the guns are not compatible with other 5.56 AK mags (like Polish Beryl, Galil, etc) without modification to either the mag or release. The factory mags are also very hard to find, and at least $35 a piece when you do find them.
So I see that there are 3 options, in no particular order (with some rationale below each option):
1. Keep the VEPR, buy an AR. VEPR would likely be set up with higher power scope for longer range shooting.
(Why sell a good gun if I don't really need to? It will never go down in value anyways unless the ban from the whole country, but that is a much bigger problem.)
2. Sell the VEPR, buy an AR. Does the VEPR do anything the AR doesn't? Why not free up some fiat to fund the AR?
(I got the VEPR in a pre-Sandyhook sale, could probably get $100-200 more than what I paid for. And why have another gun sitting around not getting shot much since I probably be shooting the AR mostly?)
3. Modify the VEPR to accept AR mags and compy with 922r. There mag are adapters for this, but they probably weren't made for the VEPR specifically (slightly different recievers). Also, not sure if a bullet guide would be needed. That and the rest of the 922r stuff would run me between $350 and $400. That price does not include an optic since I would get one for the AR too. (trigger, mag adaptor, stock adapter, stock, grip, forend, maybe bullet guide)
(This would be cool for sure, smaller outlay than buy another rifle, and no hassle of selling a gun. But would probably be a big time consuming, pain-in-the-but dremel fest, and it could still not work right in the end.)
I'm kind of torn right now, but part of me is a bit tired of odd-ball guns with hard to find parts and such. I really only have 1 gun that is "the common choice" with huge support. I picked it partially for that reason and just got it recently. Being able to walk into any gun store in the world and get mags/parts/holsters is pretty nice after hunting around on the net for every little thing and then paying throught he nose for it.
So what would the brain-trust of PMBug do?
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Now for some AR education, since I don't know all that much about them.
The internet tells me that the Colt LE6920 is basically the standard, no-nonsense, good quality AR that can be made into whatever you want (buy it and enjoy). Most people seem to think it is a pretty good deal for the ~$1100 (+tax at Walmart, so about 1200 for me) they go for.
There also appears to be the opinion that carbine-length gas systems (which the Colt has) are not as good as mid-length gas systems. If memory serves correctly, the mid-lengths are supposed to be more reliable.
Looking around on gun broker, the Daniel Dense V7 (the model I think I like) can be had for about $1300 out the door (no sales tax from out of state sellers), figure $1400 for adding some backup irons.
From what I hear, DD is a top tier manufacturer if there is any, and this rifle seems pretty slick to me.
So here are my questions/concers:
Is a mid-length really more reliable, to the point of being worth a little more cash?
Is a mid-length like the DD going to have similar parts compatibility as the Colt? The DD seems to be mostly "mil-spec", but I'm not sure exactly what that means.
My concern here is keeping the rifle running for years to come, particularly if/when guns get much more expensive and scarce. I figure since the Colt is about as close to "standard issue" as you can get, the parts supply chain should last for decades. I wouldn't want to get a really nice rifle and then have the company stop making parts a few years later, leaving me with a once-broken-forever-broken gun.
As usual, thank you Brain Trust.
I'd like a "Main Battle Rifle" that can be a go to defensive implement in unfortunate time, but mostly serve for 3 gun matches (which I am trying to get started into).
I have a VEPR AK in .223. It is a really nice AK, but mags are a pain. The factory makes 5rd and 10rd mags, and the guns are not compatible with other 5.56 AK mags (like Polish Beryl, Galil, etc) without modification to either the mag or release. The factory mags are also very hard to find, and at least $35 a piece when you do find them.
So I see that there are 3 options, in no particular order (with some rationale below each option):
1. Keep the VEPR, buy an AR. VEPR would likely be set up with higher power scope for longer range shooting.
(Why sell a good gun if I don't really need to? It will never go down in value anyways unless the ban from the whole country, but that is a much bigger problem.)
2. Sell the VEPR, buy an AR. Does the VEPR do anything the AR doesn't? Why not free up some fiat to fund the AR?
(I got the VEPR in a pre-Sandyhook sale, could probably get $100-200 more than what I paid for. And why have another gun sitting around not getting shot much since I probably be shooting the AR mostly?)
3. Modify the VEPR to accept AR mags and compy with 922r. There mag are adapters for this, but they probably weren't made for the VEPR specifically (slightly different recievers). Also, not sure if a bullet guide would be needed. That and the rest of the 922r stuff would run me between $350 and $400. That price does not include an optic since I would get one for the AR too. (trigger, mag adaptor, stock adapter, stock, grip, forend, maybe bullet guide)
(This would be cool for sure, smaller outlay than buy another rifle, and no hassle of selling a gun. But would probably be a big time consuming, pain-in-the-but dremel fest, and it could still not work right in the end.)
I'm kind of torn right now, but part of me is a bit tired of odd-ball guns with hard to find parts and such. I really only have 1 gun that is "the common choice" with huge support. I picked it partially for that reason and just got it recently. Being able to walk into any gun store in the world and get mags/parts/holsters is pretty nice after hunting around on the net for every little thing and then paying throught he nose for it.
So what would the brain-trust of PMBug do?
*******************************
Now for some AR education, since I don't know all that much about them.
The internet tells me that the Colt LE6920 is basically the standard, no-nonsense, good quality AR that can be made into whatever you want (buy it and enjoy). Most people seem to think it is a pretty good deal for the ~$1100 (+tax at Walmart, so about 1200 for me) they go for.
There also appears to be the opinion that carbine-length gas systems (which the Colt has) are not as good as mid-length gas systems. If memory serves correctly, the mid-lengths are supposed to be more reliable.
Looking around on gun broker, the Daniel Dense V7 (the model I think I like) can be had for about $1300 out the door (no sales tax from out of state sellers), figure $1400 for adding some backup irons.
From what I hear, DD is a top tier manufacturer if there is any, and this rifle seems pretty slick to me.
So here are my questions/concers:
Is a mid-length really more reliable, to the point of being worth a little more cash?
Is a mid-length like the DD going to have similar parts compatibility as the Colt? The DD seems to be mostly "mil-spec", but I'm not sure exactly what that means.
My concern here is keeping the rifle running for years to come, particularly if/when guns get much more expensive and scarce. I figure since the Colt is about as close to "standard issue" as you can get, the parts supply chain should last for decades. I wouldn't want to get a really nice rifle and then have the company stop making parts a few years later, leaving me with a once-broken-forever-broken gun.
As usual, thank you Brain Trust.
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