MF Global: Was it a hit?

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Gerald Celente wasn't the only big time investor to get burned on the MF Global deal. Lawrence Lepard, a high net worth individual, theorizes that MF Global must have been a deliberate effort to undermine the commodity futures trading complex:
Original source: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?331161-MFing-Global.-My-thoughts.
 
Is it a hit?

I do not believe it was a set up. Corzine was just greedy, plain and simple. Since he gets a significant cut of any profits, he [wrongly] bet that Europe would never let anything negative happen to all the banks holding sovereign debt. He got third degree burns on Euro periphery bonds when the Greek Haircut was negotiated and he had to do some quick moves to cover margin. He got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and mommy slammed the lid down on his fingers. Now, we'll see what regulators do about it. I think it is high time for someone like Corzine to spend a lot of time in the gray bar hotel, contemplating thirty years to life and suffering daily recreational prison rape.

But that's just my opinion.
 
I read Jim Willie's column yesterday (at 24hgold.com (note the "h" in there) and other places too, including his own goldenjackass.com). Jim Willie is perhaps the world's most growlingest bear. He suggests that MF Global might have been taken down so that their master JP Morgan could feast...

I of course would not know.

MF Global going down (and taking a breath-taking $600,000,000 of clients' money) is a BAD SIGN that things not only have gone horribly wrong, but that the storm is likely to get WORSE.
 
Agreed. Things are going to get much worse. Just watch as the end game is played out across Euroland, with Italy being the latest country top be taken over by the banksters minions. Will they get away with it? Maybe for a while, at leas until the bleary eyed walmartians come out of their credit card induced stupor and realize they are now slaves to those to whom have title to their debts.

One need only to look as far as the lobby that successfully convinced CONgress that student loaned should not be discharged in bankruptcy. Really? What a crock of shit. So let me get this straight; Joe Student takes out a hundred grand to get a degree in lizard husbandry, finishes school with honors and, naturally, cannot find work. Now, Joe is screwed because he has to work at Pizza Hut making minimum wage tossing dough to pay his loans [for ever] and live in mommies basement.

This is playing out all across the country folks, and it 'ain't going away without a revolution.
 
Video recorded right after Corzine became CEO of MFG.
The body language is very suspicious. Look at the eyes. Constantly directed downwards. Typical sign of lying.
Why did a former Goldman CEO have to join a second tier broker?
This stinks.
 
I agree Swiss. Corzine is a shifty eyed monney grubber of the highest order. These inbred fuckers are rife at the top of the financial food chain, and there isn't an insecticide powerful enough to get rid of them short of revolution. This 'tard will never see the inside of a jail cell. Soem low level lackey will be scapegoated quietly, and will be rewarded with a nice fat job after two or three years in some white collar country club playing raquetball and learning the fine art of cake decorating.

Excuse me, I need to go throw up now.

It is nearly impossible for me to not go off on a thousand word rant about how I feel. I am beyond furious. I am beyond having any feeling for these bacteria whatsoever.
 
A sniper was once asked, "what do you feel when you shoot a terrorist". He answered "recoil".

I'd better disclaim that as "only kidding"....
 
Another refrain on this song:
More (including link to .MP3 audio interview): http://bullmarketthinking.com/exclu...-least-1-million-private-accounts-are-stolen/
 
Silver Doctors have been highlighting the stolen silver story for a while now. Their latest:
http://silverdoctors.blogspot.com/2011/12/comex-silver-inventory-update-1262011.html

This issue was first mentioned on pmbug here: http://www.pmbug.com/forum/f3/comex-silver-games-202/
 
It won't be long before these guys become targets. People will allow only just so much before they completely snap. Even sheep can become violent if prodded once too many times.
 
It won't be long before these guys become targets. People will allow only just so much before they completely snap. Even sheep can become violent if prodded once too many times.

I think the people are still a few years away from really understanding what's going on.

Much like governments, people react after a crisis, not ahead of it.
 
Wouldn´t surprise me if the JPM story is true :doodoo:
I don´t think that the silver story was the main motivation to let MFG fail. It was probably just an opportunity to steal the silver.
 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/sns-rt-uk-mfglobal-corzinetre7bc2cr-20111213,0,4497935.story
 
In other news, Terrence Duffy found dead in a chartered plane accident...
 
Seems like the SEC played their role, too.
Martin Armstrong, founder and former head of Princeton Economics International Ltd. http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldn...Money_is_Fleeing_the_US_Financial_System.html
 
Hey!! Don't be a hater!!

Remember, he's the "Honorable John Corzine" and that means something [apparently......to someone.....I guess]
 
Slightly O/T but not much.

I read a few days ago that instead of some $2 - $3 trillion, that MF Global´s total number might be much higher... Up to $7 trillion.

ZH had an article yesterday about the whole shadow banking system (concepts like Dark Pools and others I vaguely understand at best) having an impressive $30 trillion on the hook / missing / whatever.

And then the inimitable Ann Barnhardt (bless her pink AR) was just interviewed somewhere (sorry I have no references or links , maybe Max Keiser?), she said it would take $100 trillion to just BEGIN to fix Europe...

It´s like every few days the Grand Total Theft quadruples. If ANY of this is even remotely true, uhm, uhm, uhm, uh, uh, uh...

Looks like another article for my blog. How quaint it now feels that just 2 weeks or so ago it looked like Proton Bank (Greece) and MF Global stole only some $3 trillion between them. You know, the Gold Old Days when a lousy trillion or two was imaginable...

Thanks, DCFusor for bring this edition´s Smilie:

 
None of that money "fixes" anything - just repairs the derivative credit bubble so it doesn't completely implode.
 
ZH (quoting another source) weighs in on the conspiracy theory:
More: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/was-collapse-mf-global-premeditated-conspiracy-theory
 
WOW! Just......WOW!

This is big stuff, and if what they wrote comes to fruition, gold, silver and palladium group metals will likely become nearly unobtainable by commoners such as myself, because they will become far too dear in price. Imagine if the paper markets became completely irrelevant over a short timeline......say one year. All of that money, which I imagine to be in the hundreds of billions of dollars, that is sitting in paper accounts worldwide, will want to actually own physical metal. We all know of course, that there simply is not that much metal in existence, even if one counts what is in "deep storage" in un-mined formations underground. The price of silver could go to three or four thousand dollars an ounce.
 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/04/us-mfglobal-goldman-idUSTRE80301V20120104
:doodoo:
 
You beat me to it. Any time goldman is involved, you know something shady was going on.
 
.......And no one will ever see the inside of a prison. Each and every one of these predators will live out their lives in extreme luxury, retaining the social status that their millions buys them.
 
@ swissaustrian

Great reporting! I definitely agree that the psychopaths are running the asylum now. Just today, my friend John R brought me an article by William D. Cohan at Bloomberg suggesting that corporate psychopaths triggered the financial crisis. The article cites Clive R. Boddy, a professor in England, and his research.

@ ancona

I agree, I doubt that ANY of the big fish go to jail. Psychos sticking together...

I loved your tale of woe re your neighbors on the other thread!
 
Oh man... If I were a Gerald Celente type - sitting on a mountain of assets and burned by this fool - I would go scorched earth on him (legal system) to extract my pound of flesh.
 
MSM running with the story (surprisingly):
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-...rdered-funds-moved-to-jpmorgan-memo-says.html

Is lying to Congress bad? Was I not supposed to do that? /Corzine

ZH has the memo posted:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/corzi...ormer-mf-global-ceo-ordered-jpm-fund-transfer
 
I don't know anything about the source for this story, but I'll mention it here for posterity:
More detailed explanation: http://silverdoctors.blogspot.com/2012/03/report-jpm-received-200-million-margin.html
 
Hopefully she works out a deal that allows her to tell the truth and give up the bigger fish(es).
 
Corzine should be in jail for stealing customer funds at MF Global.
Instead, he's collecting funds for Obama:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/jon-corzine-still-bundling-obama_640493.html
 
It was probably some MF Global customer funds that he sent Obama's way.
 
Good deal for JPM, bad for MFG:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/20/us-jpmorgan-mfglobal-idUSBRE92J03N20130320

 
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