MUST READ: IntraSECOND HFT robot gold manipulation - $ 22 in 1 sec.

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The following article is a MUST READ for anyone who is interested in pms.

Dimitri Speck, gold analyst and author of the German book "Geheime Goldpolitik" (Secret Gold Politcs: http://www.geheime-goldpolitik.de/english/ ), has been exposing intraDAY gold manipulation for over a decade (see here: http://www.pmbug.com/forum/f2/intraday-gold-price-manipulation-10-am-et-269/ ).
Now he was able to proove intraSECOND gold manipulation and the influence of high frequency robots on gold prices

http://www.safehaven.com/article/26474/a-high-frequency-attack-on-gold
 
Why anyone would even consider investing into such a system of corruption and manipulation is beyond me. It defies all rationality.

And another thing; this shows just how fragile and precarious the whole financial system is.
 
Free digital money for the computer jockeys with the fastest CPUs/connections. What a joke.
 
Or humans fast enough to buy the dip - they don't always recover in milliseconds, you know. I made a bit off some of the dislocation due to Knight, for example.
Human judgement says - nothing should double or go to half in a couple minutes after the open, and you can trade accordingly if you have enough stuff on watch lists and enough automatic alerts. You just KNOW it's something broken and can take advantage for a few quick bucks.

Not always, but...
Robots have no attention span and don't know the fundamentals, you just play the game on a timescale they ignore, and can do fine despite them. Doesn't hurt to know about the stuff that drives them, though - they're like any other player at the poker table, fast but actually, very stupid - and their tells are the tape itself. Even with mere one second resolution I have here, you can see them in action and work with what you see.

BTW, I don't "invest" in this corrupted system - I trade it. Big difference, I agree about "investing". Things only come back to true fundamentals about 2-3 times in a lifetime, and that requires luck to "catch" - and as much paying attention as trading does, so why not trade instead?
Personally, I think any predicting of the future is at least slightly vain - and that's what an investor implicitly claims to be able to do.
The immediate future is a lot less uncertain than long term, so which is vainer - trading, or investing?
 
I'm on the road, so I can't post a chart today.
Somebody please post a high resolution gold / silver chart of the 9:45 am - 10:45 am timeframe.
Frightening hft action...
 
Nice catch, swissaustrian. This kind of garbage is EXACTLY why physical only is the way to go.

Unless you are like DCFusor and can beat them at their own game! I cannot, so I settle for going to the coin shop every now and then. Since I cannot beat the robots, i'll just keep buying the real thing:

 
Today's rocket launch to the upside was clearly robot driven, too.

Look at the charts:



 
Headline chasing AI - investing for the future!
 
Headline chasing AI - investing for the future!

Having worked with modeling, this is not suprising. Most likely most commodities models have some form of unemployment as a predictive variable. As soon as this input was changed the model output would change as well.

Knowing that an input to these models will change, causing volatility, on a predictible day actually makes your investment choices easier. If you want to attempt to profit off the expected volatility, you could always try an investing strategy such as a straddle.
http://www.investopedia.com/exam-gu...es/straddle-option-strategy.asp#axzz25n3Ed3VT

 
When the unnatural occurs frequently, does it become natural?
 
Nanex analysis of the Dec. 4th midnight smackdown


http://www.nanex.net/aqck2/4005.html

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Continuation of the post above:

http://www.nanex.net/aqck2/4005.html
 
Sell Mortimer, sell! Man, if those guys had had these trading capabilities, they wouldn't have been broke at the end of the Trading Places movie.
 
You see, this is when i want to make the punishment for market manipulation having your fingers smashed with a 20 ounce Estwing framing hammer.......one at a time. Thumbs? Bent over backward until they snap and then smashed like the rest.

Where is the damned CFTC on this????
 

http://gata.org/node/12000

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"almost"
 
Algo trading at it's best:

8:30 am poor jobs data
9:30 am pre-opening bell spike
10 am good pmi data and London pm gold fixing

 
I have a question here. OK, motion is money if you're on the right side of it.
So, I suppose the assumption is that these HFT's are short and manipulating the price down to cover at a profit? Something doesn't quite add up for me here. Why go that direction? Since we know PM's in general are tracking the ever increasing CB debt, why not make them pop instead - it should be easier to make something go further in the direction it is already going longer term.

It should be possible at least in some cases to do a little more work - this by itself doesn't look like it makes the HFT's money - they would have to have other positions that benefit from this manipulation - and someone should look to corroborate that.

Else, you'd have to strongly suspect that despite what's reported, this IS the Fed doing it, probably via proxy. I don't know how to do this looking, any takers?
 

Most HFT are still simple trendfollowing machines, that's first generation hft and it has existed for decades, an early proof beeing the 1987 crash. The incredible speed of the crash was caused by automatic portfolio insurance, ie computers buying vix and selling stocks (simplified). If technical indicators are bad, these primitive HFTs sell. If there is an intraday reversal for whatever reason (short covering, physical buying etc.), the buy. They don't care about fundamentals. The futures fund that I've been managing until early 2011 has used this type of HFT, although we were holding most positions for 1-5 hours. That's not typical HFT behavior.
Second generation HFTs are programmed to interpret news headlines. They're responsible for the regular takedowns at FOMC or non farm payroll releases. They're setting the tone and then first gen HFTs follow their trends, intensifying trends like a self-fulfilling prophecy. As far as I know, second gen. HFT are only programmed to react to standardized news releases, extraordinary political or economical events are not understandable to them. The interpretation of human speech by machines has made massive progress, though. IBM's Watson project is probably just the tip of the iceberg: http://www-03.ibm.com/innovation/us/watson/watson_in_finance.shtml
Then there is a third kind of HFT, the manipulative ones. Some are designed to fight other HFTs by frontrunning them or by reading their trading patterns and forcing them into losses. Others are designed to manipulate prices outright by flooding the market with insane numbers of orders with bids or asks that far away from the current price of an asset. That's the type of HFT that was used for the manipulation in the op of this thread (red dots in the chart):

I agree that these manipulations might not even be done for profit, at least not for the profitability of a single trade. E.g. before op/ex, it makes sense taking losses if these or offset by larger gains on options underwriting.

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Now who is behind the manipulation? Monetary authorities or private entities? I don't have any proof, but I don't think such blatant manipulation would go unnoticed by central banks. The fact that nobody is speaking out tells me that it is at least sanctioned by them. The CFTC silver investigation also seems to have found something that the leadership won't publish.
In the end it's probably another incestouous partnership between public and private actors, under which the private actors (JPM and HSBC) are the proxies of public interests. The anecdotal evidence compiled by GATA points to that.
 
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Chris Martenson has examined the Sunday night activity:

http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/81535/gold-slam-massive-wealth-transfer-our-pockets-banks
 
Gold just gapped 10+$ higher in a second. It's just ridiculous. Silver jumped 30 cents.
 
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Just finished reading Chris Martenson's article referenced above. Good and thought provoking stuff. Definitely worth a click.
 
Notice the little hop straight up immediately before the release? That's their buddies getting a little something-something before anyone else.
 
I wouldn't rule out the CB's here - motive is high. Just because we know the government is pretty dumb, that doesn't cover all cases or allow that assumption to be made a priori.

For example, they've been known to contract a lot of things out to smart guys...I seem to recall one they are after now for not following their program the way they wanted...

For all we know now, Tom Clancy's "Teeth of the Tiger" is the reality. After all, he wrote the script for 9/11, and it seems people out there can read. In the above mentioned book, "an agency" used their superior data collection capability for trading themselves...now, who do we know that has that ability right now, for sure and certain?
 
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