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... Having a tough time finding any other mints that have suspended production. ...


https://kingworldnews.com/breaking-...d-swiss-gold-refiners-have-ceased-production/
 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...stuggling-to-get-hold-of-gold-in-crazy-moment
 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/t...n-dealers-sell-out-in-panic-buying-2020-03-25
 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ghts-for-metal-stranded-by-virus?srnd=premium
 

https://news.goldcore.com/us/gold-blog/gold-and-silver-coin-and-bar-premiums-what-is-happening/

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Credit Suisse Group AG, which has minted its own bars since 1856, told clients this week “not to bother asking” for gold bars.
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https://news.goldcore.com/us/gold-b...dit-suisse-tell-clients-do-not-bother-asking/


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-gold-silver-sales-as-pandemic-hits-k8h0km3y
 
Just looking at the Bullionvault live order board ( think its secure, available once logged in ) and in Singapore bids are about £40 higher, offers around £90 higher than the chart price of gold. There doesnt seem to be any action there but this could be because its the middle of the night.

London, New York and Zurich bids / offers all around the £1300 mark as per the Bullionvault chart.
Which seems to suggest that there are willing sellers .........
 
Been watching Provident and Apmex prices for 1 oz random year gold eagles.

Over the past couple weeks or so, both dealers have been posting a spot price that has been running approx $10 to $40 above the Kitco ticker spot price.

Right now Provident spot is running $20 above Kitco spot and Apmex at $30 above Kitco spot.

For the past couple weeks, Provident 1 oz gold eagles have been running $100 above the Provident spot price, and right now about $120 above the Kitco spot price.

For the past couple weeks, the Apmex 1 oz gold eagles have slowing increasing in delta price above spot. Right now the coins are running at $185 above the listed Apmex spot, and $215 above the posted Kitco spot.
 
Coins / gold in the hand seems to be where the disconnect is and I read something yesterday suggesting that its logistics rather than shortage per se.

Bullionvault and Goldmoney will allow you to take delivery but leaving it in their private but registered vault, lets you sell it via the internet to a reasonably wide market any time ..... as long as tinternet is available ........
 
For the first time in over 2 weeks, the Provident metals price for a 1 oz random year gold eagle is now running at over $100 from their listed spot price.

As I mentioned in the earlier post, Provident had been showing a price of $100 above their listed spot price, for the past 2 wks.

As of today, the 1 oz RY gold eagle price is $140 above their listed spot price.
 

https://www.kitco.com/news/2020-04-03/PAMP-restarting-limited-operations-reports.html
 

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-p...s-to-reopen-at-reduced-capacity-idUKKBN21N0AZ
 
I reckon the futures markets will take care of things

I mean its not like they actually need any to make stuff cos everyone is on Gaia Break .....
 
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I mean its not like they actually need any to make stuff cos everyone is on Gaia Break .....

Supposedly, 480toz of silver needed to make every Tomahawk missile. You think the war machine is going to stop because grandma has the sniffles? /snark
 
I suspect the silver needed to make missile circuits is secured well ahead of production.
It would be hard to run a war machine on justintime procurement ..........

especially if it ended up having to be shipped by the current 'enemy'

And I think the 'war' is probably on a go slow at the moment, just dont tell the 'enemy' weve got a little flu problem though.
 
3/28:
4/10:
  • 10 ozt gold bars - 11 bars Apmex poured. Premium $100/toz over "spot"
  • 1 ozt gold bars - 88 bars RCM. Premium $100 over spot
  • 100 ozt silver bars - Zero inventory. One item offered for "pre-sale" on expected future inventory. Premium $4.49 to $5 over spot

Apmex lists "spot" gold at $1,704.60. I don't know where they are pulling their data from as Spot should be $1,685 and Futures are $1,750.
 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...n-output-just-as-investors-are-demanding-more

The last time I visited my LCS, they didn't have any gold eagles. They only had a few gold maples. I think retail stock of gold eagles was pretty much already wiped out.
 
4/28:
  • 10 ozt gold bars - 65 bars (mostly misc brand). Premium $80/toz over "spot"
  • 1 ozt gold bars - 0 bars - presale only. Premium $110 over spot
  • 100 ozt silver bars - 15 bars secondary market. Premium $3 to $3.5 over spot

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...forking-over-lofty-135-premiums-for-u-s-coins
 
5/16:
  • 10 ozt gold bars - many bars (at least 100) various brands. Premiums started at $67/toz over "spot" and averaged around $80
  • 1 ozt gold bars - Many bars (over 400) various brands. Sale item was $60 over spot. Regular priced items started at $80 over spot
  • 100 ozt silver bars - 15 bars secondary market. Premiums started at $3.10 over spot

I didn't do a full inventory accounting. Looks like they had a lot more gold inventory and were still running lean on 100oz silver bar inventory. Premiums looked to have dropped a little bit on gold, but were slightly higher on the silver.
 
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