Property taxes

[Viking]

 

[searcher]

Do the voters have NO say in this?

You can vote for different people and you can challenge certain assessments.

I'm in Bucks County:

Board of Assessment Appeals | Bucks County, PA

The primary function of the board, which is comprised of three members, is to determine the current market value of all properties in the county and calculate the appropriate assessment.

www.buckscounty.gov

PA in general:

Property Tax Appeal in PA

Considering filing a dispute on your tax assessment? Here are 5 reasons to consider a property tax appeal. Our real estate attorneys can help.

highswartz.com

Does PA have a referendum process, that they can propose a property-tax freeze on property already owned? Like California's Prop. 13.

Over the years I've heard talk about reform but it never materialized. Here's a few links to news articles. Note the dates.

https://www.pahouse.com/InTheNews/NewsRelease/?id=135729

State lawmaker proposes eliminating school property taxes, shifting burden to the state

Homeowners across Pennsylvania are paying billions in school property taxes, but a new proposal aims to eliminate those taxes and shift the burden to the state.

www.wpxi.com

Pennsylvania governor proposes historic change for homeowners

Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's new budget proposal includes a $1 billion property tax relief initiative.

www.newsweek.com

PA does have a property tax / rent rebate program (kinda hard to qualify for a lot of peeps):

Property Tax/Rent Rebate Program

Property Tax/Rent Rebate Program

www.pa.gov

This has to stop. Has to be made to stop.

I agree 100%.

 

[Fatrat]

Do the voters have NO say in this?

Does PA have a referendum process, that they can propose a property-tax freeze on property already owned? Like California's Prop. 13.

This has to stop. Has to be made to stop.

The voters can fire the assholes raising rates, these people are elected.

 

[searcher]

New York

New law lets thousands of homeowners slash their property tax bill by 65%​

New legislation signed by New York Governor Kathy Hochul will allow seniors living in the state to receive up to 65 percent in property tax exemption, a measure that she said should “make New York affordable” for those struggling with higher bills.

Newsweek contacted Governor Hochul’s office for comment by email on Monday morning, outside of standard working hours.

Why It Matters​

Property taxes have climbed all across the country in the years following the pandemic home-buying frenzy, which sent home values through the roof.

In 2023, according to data by Cotality, median property taxes in the U.S. were up 26.3 percent from 2019 for homeowners who had their properties reassessed. From 2023 to 2024, they rose another 5.5 percent nationwide, according to CoreLogic.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/rea...y-tax-bill-by-65/ar-AA1RWguL?ocid=socialshare

 

[Casey Jones]

That woman is a witch.

And that source is a Party website.

I wanna see the FINE PRINT.

 

[Casey Jones]

The voters can fire the assholes raising rates, these people are elected.

It's not who votes, that counts - but who counts the votes.

 

[Casey Jones]

You can vote for different people and you can challenge certain assessments.

I'm in Bucks County:

Board of Assessment Appeals | Bucks County, PA

The primary function of the board, which is comprised of three members, is to determine the current market value of all properties in the county and calculate the appropriate assessment.

www.buckscounty.gov

PA in general:

Property Tax Appeal in PA

Considering filing a dispute on your tax assessment? Here are 5 reasons to consider a property tax appeal. Our real estate attorneys can help.

highswartz.com

Over the years I've heard talk about reform but it never materialized.

As I see it, the problem here isn't just assessment of market value - although that can be, frequently is, messed up, deliberately. It's jacking up the rates.

Locally here, there's a few examples. One that made the regional news, was that of a couple that bought a McRanch out near Great Falls in the early 1980s. Paid a very-modest price for it - under 100k. Retired there.

Now the property is appraised at over a million dollars. And local sales prices support that. There and in my town, here - prices are OUT of control - partly because of California refugees and partly because of REIT and other speculation on multifamily and industrial land.

All that money, printed up a few years ago...now chasing land in the less-spoiled regions of the nation.

What is happening to the Great Falls couple is, their tax bill is forcing them to sell. THAT SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN. I don't know if they have a Homestead reduction, or even if the tax bill is unaffordable WITH that reduction. You cut the tax from $40k to $20k, when you're living on only $35k, it's not much help.

Cal. Prop. 13, as I understood it, froze taxes at the level and rate they were assessed at time of sale. With inflation, that's not practical; I don't know if there's a CPI override on it, or other stipulations.

A blanket freeze is probably not practical; but there has to be a better way than jumping through hoops for a corrupt Assessor. I have been through THAT in NY State.

 

[Lancers32]

That woman is a witch.

And that source is a Party website.

I wanna see the FINE PRINT.

It's always about the income limits. In order to get the break your income will most likely have to be around poverty level.

 

[Bottom Feeder]

It's always about the income limits. In order to get the break your income will most likely have to be around poverty level.

Yeah, here in snowflake city that level is $40,000.

 

[Lancers32]

Yeah, here in snowflake city that level is $40,000.

26K here.

 

[Viking]

Allodial title. No tax.

 

[searcher]

Texas

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick wants to increase the homestead exemption for school property taxes again​

Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick on Tuesday unveiled a plan to drive down property taxes by further hiking the amount of a home’s value that can’t be taxed to pay for public schools and lowering the age at which Texans qualify for additional relief on their school tax bills.

Under Patrick’s proposal, dubbed “Operation Double Nickel,” the state’s homestead exemption for school property taxes would increase by another $40,000, after Texas voters in November green-lit the latest increase by the same amount, from $100,000 to $140,000. The minimum exemption under Patrick’s latest plan would allow homeowners to shave $180,000 off the value that can be taxed by their local school district.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/l...erty-taxes-again/ar-AA1S24e4?ocid=socialshare

 

[Casey Jones]

How 'bout, we just reduce the size of school districts.

Go back to NEIGHBORHOOD schools.

And pay teachers what they're worth - which is not what the NEA has gotten them through goonion tactics.

Remember the day, back when primary-school teaching was the job for young women, not yet settled...who, once they found men, could leave and then maybe return when the children were grown? What the hell was wrong with THAT? Are we still wrapped up in this denying of basic biological/sexual differences? To the point where we have to first, pervert our children, then bring our wombynz, now seduced by the LGBTQ++ demons, into schools at corporate CEO salaries? With a whole phalanx of educrat positions opened up, to mirror CEO slots in major (Government-connected) corporations?

 

[searcher]

Lower Merion commissioners approve 8% tax hike, citing 'looming cliff' after 13 years of no increase​

Lower Merion residents will see an 8% increase on their property tax bill in 2026, a move commissioners say is a necessary remedy to the “mistake” of keeping tax rates stagnant for over a decade.

The township board of commissioners on Dec. 17 approved an 8% property tax increase for next year. The increase will bring the property tax millage rate from 4.462 mills to 4.819 mills. The median single-family homeowner in Lower Merion will pay around $1,386 in real estate taxes, a $103 increase from 2025.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...s-of-no-increase/ar-AA1SV88M?ocid=socialshare

 

[KnowWhy]

Lower Merion commissioners approve 8% tax hike, citing 'looming cliff' after 13 years of no increase​

Lower Merion residents will see an 8% increase on their property tax bill in 2026, a move commissioners say is a necessary remedy to the “mistake” of keeping tax rates stagnant for over a decade.

The township board of commissioners on Dec. 17 approved an 8% property tax increase for next year. The increase will bring the property tax millage rate from 4.462 mills to 4.819 mills. The median single-family homeowner in Lower Merion will pay around $1,386 in real estate taxes, a $103 increase from 2025.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...s-of-no-increase/ar-AA1SV88M?ocid=socialshare

Didn’t their property valuation go up over those thirteen years? My rate has increased slightly, but my valuation has gone up 30% in five years, and my tax and the government’s revenue proportionately.

 

[searcher]

PA (Bucks)

Bucks County will increase property taxes by 8% in 2026 to close deficit​

Bucks County residents will see an 8% property tax increase next year.

The Democratic-led Bucks County Board of Commissioners voted 2-1 Wednesday to raise taxes in response to a $16.4 million deficit in the county’s $516 million operating budget.

County staff had requested a 7.2% tax increase to fill the budget hole, but Democratic Commissioners Bob Harvie and Diane Ellis-Marseglia voted to increase that hike to 8%, citing inflation and uncertainty in state and federal dollars.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...to-close-deficit/ar-AA1SxC0K?ocid=socialshare

 

[Casey Jones]

Bucks County...is that Warren?

They don't have either the industry to support it, nor the money residents may have.

If they want to out new-york New York, this is a fine way.

 

[searcher]

Bucks County...is that Warren?

Nah, Bucks is just outside of NE Philly.

Bucks County, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bucks County, PA | Official Website

www.buckscounty.gov

https://www.visitbuckscounty.com/

Warren is somewhere in the upper NW part of the state.

 

[Joe King]

Didn’t their property valuation go up over those thirteen years? My rate has increased slightly, but my valuation has gone up 30% in five years, and my tax and the government’s revenue proportionately.

They'd appreciate it if you'd quit trying to throw a monkey wrench into their plans to spend more money.

 

[Casey Jones]

Warren is somewhere in the upper NW part of the state.

For some reason I thought it was just over the state line.

I never lived in PA, but I lived in Chautauqua County, on and off, for about seven years. Back in the 1970s, we used to get a lot of teens from Warren, come up, drive to Jamestown...buy booze (drinking age was 18 in NY)...and then drive over to our village of nothing-but summer residences (200 permanent residents) and drink on empty cul-de-sacs. Or drive and drink. Or drink and fornicate. In any proportion of the three.

I had a buddy who was a cop there, and he had plenty of stories. The beer he liberated from those kids, kept him from having to buy any.

 

[searcher]

Bedridden 91-year-old Pennsylvania grandma's house sold out from under her due to $3.5K tax debt she thought was paid. Could this happen to you?​

A bedridden 91-year-old grandmother may soon be evicted from her Upper Darby, Pennsylvania, home over what her family and attorneys say was an oversight that led to an unpaid tax bill and eventually a lien on the property.

Gloria Gaynor’s family recently received a warning she would be forcibly removed by the new owners — who bought the house from under her — with the help of authorities, according to 6abc Philadelphia. (1)

Davis, who lives in Florida, has been left scrambling to find accommodations for her mother.

But those close to Gaynor say none of this should have happened in the first place. Here’s how the events unfolded, and how to keep this from happening to you.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/per...is-happen-to-you/ar-AA1TB8Jg?ocid=socialshare

G.J. Gaynor v. Delaware County TCB & CJD Group, LLC (majority)​

Justia › U.S. Law › Case Law › Pennsylvania Case Law › Pennsylvania Commonwealth Court Decisions › 2025 › G.J. Gaynor v. Delaware County TCB & CJD Group, LLC

 

[Fatrat]

Family needs to look out for their parents, when our parents got older and not so sharp anymore, we stepped in...

 

[searcher]

The title is a tad misleading but it's a good vid.

Florida Property Taxes CANCELLED! (School Boards EXPOSED)​

Jan 17, 2026
Property tax fraud has been so rampant over the past decade that nearly every American homeowner has been affected by it in someway or another. Some people are even losing their homes because of how much their property taxes have shot up and the problem is many of these appraisal districts are flat out breaking USPAP laws which make these tax increases illegal but also the school districts account for usually over half of your property tax bill with nothing to show for it.


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[searcher]

Kansas lawmakers pass property tax protest petition bill; stall on valuation cap​

In a dramatic series of votes on Friday evening, Kansas lawmakers passed one property tax reform bill but failed to advance a constitutional amendment proposal aimed at limiting year-over-year valuation increases to single digits.

The bill that passed the Senate 22-18 and the House 63-59 on the last day of the legislative session would establish a mechanism for voters to scrap local government budgets that call for spending more money than they did the year before.

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...on-valuation-cap/ar-AA1ZC6eI?ocid=socialshare

 

[searcher]

• New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani and New York State Governor Kathy Hochul are supporting a pied-à-terre tax to help make up a big budget hole, while Mamdani is dropping a proposal to raise property taxes on homeowners more broadly.
• Tax experts say the “second home” tax can raise some revenue, but based on similar taxes around the world, have less than the most optimistic forecasts, while having limited impact on overall housing supply and affordability.
• Since the luxury segment of the urban real estate market is relatively small, the tax policy may ultimately be better politics than fiscal management.

New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani's pied-à-terre property tax is moving ahead. But will it work?

New York is moving ahead with a pied-à-terre property tax in its budget. Existing taxes from around the world's major cities show the limits of the policy.

www.cnbc.com

 

[searcher]

Property Taxes STILL RISING Even Though Home Values Are Falling​

May 13, 2026


5:38

 

[Lancers32]

For some reason I thought it was just over the state line.

I never lived in PA, but I lived in Chautauqua County, on and off, for about seven years. Back in the 1970s, we used to get a lot of teens from Warren, come up, drive to Jamestown...buy booze (drinking age was 18 in NY)...and then drive over to our village of nothing-but summer residences (200 permanent residents) and drink on empty cul-de-sacs. Or drive and drink. Or drink and fornicate. In any proportion of the three.

I had a buddy who was a cop there, and he had plenty of stories. The beer he liberated from those kids, kept him from having to buy any.

Just over the border with Jersey. Nice place first wife and I used to make the trip down there to these artsy craftsy places in the Fall. 50 years ago no idea what it's like now. Not cheap for sure.

 

[searcher]

10 New Jersey Towns Getting EATEN ALIVE By Property Taxes

Jul 31, 2026
New Jersey has the highest property taxes in America, and the average bill has crossed ten grand... but "average" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Because the people getting hit the hardest in this state aren't the ones in the mansions. They're the working families handing over a quarter of their paycheck for a two-family house in a town the state forgot about. These are the ten New Jersey towns getting eaten alive by property taxes...
Drop your town in the comments and like and share if your property tax bill has ever made you scream out loud.


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[nickndfl]

The Florida tax cut is going to pass. I want to build a barndo in Okeechobee under $250k and tell everybody to get their hand outta my.pocket.

 

[Fatrat]

Still waiting to hear how counties are going to make up the tax loss, birds chirpin..

 

[Joe King]

Still waiting to hear how counties are going to make up the tax loss, birds chirpin..

How 'bout they just cut spending to match their new level of income?

You know, same as anyone would have to do if they had less $$$ coming in.


Or maybe they could put on a bake sale, or something like that to raise money.

Or just count heads and tax those.

That'd be the fair way of doing it.

 

[Fatrat]

You have a better chance of getting Trump to stop blowing Netanyahu....Just shut down the Sheriff department and give that responsibility to the state.

 

[Joe King]

You have a better chance of getting Trump to stop blowing Netanyahu....Just shut down the Sheriff department and give that responsibility to the state.

Point is, cut revenue coming in, and there's no choice but to cut spending.

Why do you care what they replace it with?

How about replacing it with nothing?
.....and IF a problem sprouts that they need more money, tax the people in that particular county, directly. Ie: they pay for their own shit they want.

 

[Viking]

Still waiting to hear how counties are going to make up the tax loss, birds chirpin..

Get rid of government pensions.

 

[Casey Jones]

Get rid of government pensions.

Nice solution.

...HOW?

Turning the Sheriff's duties over to the State, isn't the answer, either. Look at Woke states with tyrannical tendencies...most of them have un-fettered State Police forces.

The COUNTY SHERIFF is a primary defense against police tyranny. You vote for him. In many counties, you can actually talk with him.

Grady Judd may not be your favorite type of police officer; but I'd rather see him or his friends roll up, after I shot a Woke home invader, than one of Kathy Hocul's political minions, from a state that has outlawed individual self-defense.

 

[Fatrat]

Get rid of government pensions.

Very likely all pensions will die soon, that's why I went with investment pensions, I transferred my money out of their hands.

 

[Cigarlover]

There's so many ways we can look at these issues but 1 thing remains clear. Our elected officials will never fix anything and will in fact, over time, make things worse.

There is also the issue of socialism versus capitalism. the 2 don't mix and socialism has never worked regardless of what the propaganda says.

Let's take 1 thing like Health care. At one point long ago like back in the 50's Dr's used to make house calls. You paid them out of pocket and life was easy. Then slowly the government inserted it's tentacles into the system and now not only do we have the most expensive healthcare and insurance in the world, we also have government mandates that says you have to buy it. Thats not freedom, nor is it capitalism. Under capitalism people could decide for themselves if it was a worthwhile service that they wanted to pay for. If you are young (Under40), you can get away with just a catastrophic policy to protect you in the event of a serious accident. If you are someone with serious health conditions then your health insurance premium should reflect that. However I have stated before that health care would be affordable to all if we just did away with health insurance altogether. What are we really doing here? Just paying a corporation huge profits to pay our medical bills for us? The bills are way over priced to begin with just because the medical industry and latch onto someones medical policy and make huge profits for them as well.
A couple years ago someone I know had to have a cat scan. The insurance deductible was 1600 for it. A year later they needed a follow up and didn't have insurance. Out of pocket cost for the same scan was less than 1/2 the insurance deductible when they had insurance. She was like why am I paying for insurance if things are cheaper without it. It's all a racket designed to empty your wallet into the big corporations shareholders hands.

My own experience is when the VA sent me to the local hospital to get a lung screening. For some reason I got a copy of the bill. 900 dollars but because VA was paying it was right around 200. I forget the exact number. That the;lls you right there, it all comes down to what insurance you have and what they are willing to pay. Everyone would eventually figure this out if they were allowed to opt out of insurance and just pay out of pocket. Notice you never see a statement of what the charges will be at hospitals? It's all up to their discretion.

Shall we go into the school system and how forked that system is? How about our food supply? Designed to make you as unhealthy as possible to make maximum profits for them as well as the health care industry.

 

[Joe King]

There's so many ways we can look at these issues but 1 thing remains clear. Our elected officials will never fix anything and will in fact, over time, make things worse.

Which is why the only solution is to starve them of revenue.

However I have stated before that health care would be affordable to all if we just did away with health insurance altogether.

It sure would be. Insurance and gov involvement is the root cause of out of control healthcare costs.

It amazes me that so many can't see that is.

What are we really doing here? Just paying a corporation huge profits to pay our medical bills for us? The bills are way over priced to begin with just because the medical industry and latch onto someones medical policy and make huge profits for them as well.

Yep. Not only does the people pay for all healthcare costs, they pay all the insurance companies costs as well as their profit, as well as the government bureaucracy costs of them trying to regulate it.

A couple years ago someone I know had to have a cat scan. The insurance deductible was 1600 for it. A year later they needed a follow up and didn't have insurance. Out of pocket cost for the same scan was less than 1/2 the insurance deductible when they had insurance. She was like why am I paying for insurance if things are cheaper without it. It's all a racket designed to empty your wallet into the big corporations shareholders hands.

Had the same experience. Go to get an MRI and first thing they ask is if it's billed to insurance. Billed at $2000 with insurance, or $500 cash on the barrelhead.

The shit needs to priced like a gallon of milk. Ie: one price for everyone, regardless of who they are or how they pay.

Notice you never see a statement of what the charges will be at hospitals? It's all up to their discretion.

Could ya imagine the outrage if auto mechanics, or electricians, or plumbers or any other professional service tried doing that crap?

The gov would shut 'em down.
.....but with healthcare everyone stupidly acts as though it's perfectly normal.

 

[nickndfl]

Still waiting to hear how counties are going to make up the tax loss, birds chirpin..

My WAG is they can replace it with what's in the center of a Lifesaver. Everybody wants to cut spending and starting with local governments could be a way to set an example for the Feds.

 

[Fatrat]

DeSantis should lead by example, eliminate the sales tax and cut spending if its so easy...
But politicians NEVER really cut spending for long.