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Maybe the Morgue finally gets crushed?

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"Green energy transition"....... Heh.... BULL SHIT,.... More like investors who are nervous as hell and don't know where to put their $$. Is that why gold is spiking too???
 
First was the Morgue
#Silversqueeze starts slow vault drain
Then China wakes up
 
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In 1 single month - February - India imported 7-8% of 2023 global production.
On an annual basis India is importing the whole 2023 global production.
That doesn't make any sense.
I have no idea where this amount of silver is coming from



That's a strong floor of demand...
 
Strong? Shoot, that's beyond exponential demand. Almost like they really are trying to put the squeeze on a certain ever-powerful market rigging cabal. Again that's 74 million ounces in one month.

India imported a record 2,295 metric tons of silver in February, up from 637 tons in January...
3,625 tons for all of 2023

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
 
Do you remember a couple of months ago Andrew Maguire reporting about European silver refineries full booked by Indian customers but unable of sourcing ingots?
 
I mean just read this Bio.

CPM Group in 1986, which was spun off from Goldman Sachs & Co and its trading arm, J. Aron & Company.

He has advised many of the world’s largest corporations and institutional investors on managing their commodities price and market exposures, as well as providing advisory services to the World Bank, United Nations, International Monetary Fund, and numerous governments.


If you choose to believe that guy then I can't help you.
 
Jeffrey says 5.5B ounces in above ground inventories. I did some quick math following Ronan Manley's template about two months ago:

16,892.81 tonnes (63%) of silver in the London vaults not owned by ETFs
173moz (4,904 tonnes) in COMEX vaults not owned by ETFs

Thats a total of 21,797 tonnes or 768,866,500 ounces without SGE/SFE (China). That's no where close to Jeffrey's claim of 5.5B. Even if we concede that ETF owned metal should be included in the totals, which I don't think is a reasonable concession, the totals two months ago were around 450 million ounces more for a grand total less than 1.3B ounces.

If you want to add Chinese metal to the total (which again is totally unreasonable as it really is not available to the west), that was about 2.1 million kg or 74,075,320 ounces. That's doesn't move the needle anywhere near 5.5B ounces.

I have no idea where Jeffrey is pulling his numbers from or what magic he is using to estimate them, but based upon what I can see and verify following Mr. Manley's template, I'm much more inclined to agree with Daniel Ghali's analysis (see OP). If the Silver Institute is right about their 690 million ounces demand estimate, that would deplete above ground stocks held in the LBMA and COMEX (and not owned by ETFs) in one to two years (not accounting for new production).
 
I think the current deficit is around 150-200 million ounces a year. So LBMA and Comex can cover that for about 4 years.
If prices stay higher than a lot of silver will come back on the market from private investors. It will also be more profitable to mine the lower grades that have been bypassed for the higher grade stuff in the last few years. I have no idea how that affects mine output overall worldwide but it should be considerable.
Still doesn't get us even close to the 5.5 b

In the end I don't know how we will ever get true price discovery though. I think the crypto market has set a precedent. You can now buy and sell a symbol that is backed by nothing and run it up to over 70k. Short sellers can also short silver down to a dollar for just a few billion dollars if they wanted to. A few billion is nothing for the government or one of the large bankers. Will they waste their time and money or let it run? Depends if the politicians are invested or not I imagine
 
I updated the vault numbers this morning and overall, the west (LBMA + COMEX) has lost roughly 12 moz of non-ETF owned silver between end of January and April 10. If that ~two month pace were to hold steady (not a fair assumption), the west's (LBMA + COMEX) silver would last ~126 months (a little over 10 years).
 
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If prices stay higher than a lot of silver will come back on the market from private investors.

By all indications, this current move up is not being driven by retail/Wall Street. This isn't a FOMO bubble yet. I actually think there is quite a bit of juice to be squeezed out of the market as retail/Wall Street buys silver at the early stages of this rally.

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It will also be more profitable to mine the lower grades that have been bypassed for the higher grade stuff in the last few years. I have no idea how that affects mine output overall worldwide but it should be considerable.

While true, from what I understand, there is a pretty significant lag in scaling up mining. It doesn't happen overnight and while the price of silver has been going up, the price of oil is also going up with the mess in the middle east, so the price of silver's effect on mining profitability might be mitigated to an extent by energy costs.

... You can now buy and sell a symbol that is backed by nothing and run it up to over 70k. ...

But that has always been true in the stock market. Stocks can go to the moon and crash to zero without any real rhyme or reason (hello Gamestop) as FOMO, momentum, or whatever drives casino bets that have nothing to do with perceptions of underlying value.
 
This guy seems to contradict with a lot of the silver bugs keep saying about supply shortages…


10 years ago the CFTC conducted an investigation about whether the US silver market was manipulated.
Jeff Christian was the main counterparty to A. Maguire and GATA
 


184.3moz is much higher than the 72moz I calculated in post #18. If we used 184.3moz as the deficit rate, LBMA+COMEX would only last 4.1 years. If we bump the 184.3moz by 17%, we get 215.6moz in which case, LBMA+COMEX would only last 3 and a half years.
 
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Jeff Christian was the main counterparty to A. Maguire and GATA

It's like a Hatfield & McCoys fued...


More:


Shots fired!
 




Gujarat is just one State within India. If I'm reading that last article correctly, they imported 23% of 2024 total silver imports in April (the fourth month of the year) - essentially maintaining the average pace set over the first three months. If the rest of India also maintained that pace, India likely imported around 1,200 tons of silver in April.
 

 
15 kilo is a little more than a monster box. Whats a large number of buyers? 10? 100? 1000?
 
More interestingly to me - why do shops there sign sales contracts for inventory that they do not have in stock? It's akin to metals dealers here in the USA having months long delivery times for orders. Caveat emptor!
 

 


I have not vetted his $24 settlement claim/math, but if he is correct, that's pretty eye opening.
 
They're probably trying to help the shorts like the US Mint... or actually short silver like the US Mint and in BIG time trouble.
 
TPTB getting desperate?



Thread on Reddit includes this comment:
 

Silver is still $35+ in China. The drop in spot will likely recover a bit by the time the SGE/SFE re-opens on Tuesday.
 
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