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HUGE! Kash Patel Drops a Bomb — British Court Reveals Paul Ryan Was the First One to Receive a Copy of Steele Dossier Back in 2016 and He Hid This For Years!

I KNEW HE WAS A SNAKE.
HE HATED TRUMP BECAUSE HE WON.
HE KNEW TRUMP WAS NOT PART OF THE ESTABLISHMENT.
TRUMP ACTUALLY TRYING TO DO WHAT’S BEST FOR AMERICA A NEW CONCEPT FOR THE SLIMY POLITICAL ELITES.
 

Muslim Government Assistance Scam in America EXPOSED

“I was speaking in Detroit area — They were telling me about a lady who had a ministry to pregnant mothers:

- So she shows up at a Muslim house, has a little present. Well, out of a bedroom comes another pregnant Muslim mom
- Out of a bedroom comes another pregnant Muslim mom. Out of a bedroom comes another pregnant Muslim mom, all pregnant by the same man
- He's practicing Sharia law in his house
- He bought a bunch of houses on the street, has a wife in each one
- The wives go down to the welfare office and say their husband's not around
- And the more kids they have, the larger the checks get
- And then he's living like a king at state’s expense

This scam MUST be stopped.

“He's practicing Sharia law on his block. They take over several more blocks, and they vote in the school board, and now they have their Sharia in the schools, and then they take over more blocks. They vote in the police department, fire department, and in Hamtramck, Detroit, they vote in the majority of the city council. They have their minarets, their calls to prayer five times a day, no different than Pakistan.

- So we see the first ones come in as immigrants. And they're nice, and they're so nice. Everybody says they're nice. Nothing to fear
- Let more in. More come in. They gravitate together, form a community
- Imam shows up and says, okay, you need to start getting a little more serious about this, more fundamental. Then the burqas start appearing
- People say the neighborhood's changing. They move out. More Muslims move in.
— So eventually, they take over the entire neighborhood. And they do this neighborhood by neighborhood, city by city, block by block, until they take over countries.

“Mohammed's three steps was immigrate, increase, eliminate. Immigrate as a religious refugee, increase the number of your followers and demand political accommodation and then eliminate the previous culture.”

This is how Hamtramck, Detroit officially became America's first Muslim-majority city

INSANE
 

Key Moments The War Mongers Don’t Want You to Remember:

1990 – The U.S. promised Russia NATO wouldn’t expand “one inch eastward.” That was a lie.
2002 – The U.S. unilaterally withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, destabilizing nuclear deterrence.
2004 – NATO added seven more countries, pushing right up to Russia’s borders.
2008 – Bush Jr. pushed to bring Ukraine and Georgia into NATO, crossing another red line.
2014 (February) – The CIA backed a coup in Ukraine, overthrowing its neutral leader. War followed.
2014 (March) – Crimea voted 97% to rejoin Russia in a referendum. The West called it “illegitimate,” ignoring the region’s long history with Russia. Moscow took Crimea back without firing a shot.
2022 (February) – Kamala Harris publicly invited Ukraine to join NATO, daring Russia to respond.
2022 (April) – UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson sabotaged peace talks in Kyiv, telling Zelensky to tear up the deal and keep fighting for “Western hegemony.”
2022-2024 – EU leaders blindly followed Washington’s war agenda, pumping billions into Ukraine, cutting off Russian energy, and crippling their own economies—all while their defense industries raked in profits.
February 12, 2025 – Trump and Putin actually talked—for the first time in years. Days later, the U.S. finally admitted Ukraine will NEVER join NATO.
2025 – Now that the U.S. is shifting under Trump, European leaders are in a panic. They backed a war they can’t win, and Washington is leaving them holding the bag.

Zelensky & His Backers:

A comedian-turned-president, Zelensky was propped up by oligarch Ihor Kolomoisky—a corrupt Jewish banker so dirty even the U.S. sanctioned him.

Kolomoisky funded Zelensky’s rise from TV star to president and has deep ties to Western elites, bankers, and war profiteers who always cash in on conflict.

Meanwhile, Zelensky became America’s khaki-clad poster boy, begging for billions while:
Dissidents were jailed.
Men were dragged from their homes to fight.
Ukraine’s elites got filthy rich off the war.

Now the Script is Falling Apart:

So after three plus years of war, over a million dead, and billions flushed down the drain… for what?

The Truth:

This was never about “protecting Ukraine.” It was a reckless U.S. project to expand NATO, box in Russia, and funnel cash to defense contractors.

The Winners?
U.S. war profiteers
Corrupt oligarchs
The elites who fund both sides of every war

The Losers?
Ukrainians
Russians
You—the taxpayer!

War mongers don’t care how many more unwilling Ukrainian conscripts they force to die as long as they can keep their forever war money laundering operation going
 
Not making any statement with this. Posting as an interesting read, nothing more. As usual, take it fwiw and dyodd.

Israel’s man inside the CIA betrayed the US, new files show - The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity

Veteran CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton secretly oversaw a top-level spy ring involving Jewish émigrés and Israeli operatives without “any clearances” from Congress or Langley itself, according to recently declassified documents published as part of the Trump administration’s pledge...
ronpaulinstitute.org
 

He Tried to Endorse From the Pulpit. He Wound Up Without a Church.​

The I.R.S. says churches can now support candidates during services, but many denominations still forbid it. A Wisconsin pastor learned the hard way.

Before it went wrong, The Rev. Jonathan Barker’s plan was to stand up last Sunday at Grace Lutheran Church in Kenosha, Wis. and do something that had been off limits for 70 years.

He would endorse a political candidate from the pulpit.

Federal law bars churches from making endorsements, but last month the I.R.S. appeared to create an exception, saying the law should not apply to preachers speaking to their own congregations.

More:

 
Goldhedge said:
I'm thinking Trump's moving the NG into cities will be to prevent large scale rioting...

Makes me think 'something' is going to go down that would cause said rioting to occur....


I wonder what that might be?
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I don't know.

Given what we've seen the last six months, I'm not even sure it is gonna be good.
 
searcher said:
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Elon Musk makes major U-Turn after promising to upend US politics with third party​

Elon Musk backtracked on his promise to remake US politics with his 'America Party' and instead plans to use his immense wealth to help JD Vance become the next president.

The billionaire Tesla founder intends to shift his focus back to his companies after a tumultuous stint working with President Trump and has become wary of upsetting Republicans, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Musk has decided to join other tech titans and rally behind the person they believe is the likely successor to Trump: Vice President JD Vance, who has made moves recently suggesting he will run in 2028.

The former DOGE head spent nearly $300million helping to elect Trump in 2024, but the duo has a spectacular fallout earlier this year with Musk eventually writing on X that 'Trump is in the Epstein files.'

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...with-third-party/ar-AA1KQo0b?ocid=socialshare
 

GOP Rep Heckled at Town Hall While Throwing Trump Under the Bus​

Trump-supporting Rep. Harriet Hageman of Wyoming once again found herself in the difficult position of having to defend the president’s most unpopular policies this week as she was confronted by disappointed constituents at a town hall event.

Hageman, Wyoming’s sole congressperson and a vocal Trump ally, hosted a town hall event on Monday in Casper, a city in central Wyoming.

During the event, one constituent approached the microphone and asked Hageman, “Who’s responsible for establishing tariffs in our country?”

More:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...mp-under-the-bus/ar-AA1KPPQt?ocid=socialshare
 
We have forgotten in our current discourse what every American older than a certain age knows in their bones, which is that, as cities go, D.C. is a cesspit. There is a long history of political corruption from Mayor Marion Barry hanging out in crack dens, to 2012 with the incidents of Kwame Brown and Harry Thomas on city council, and then the various scams and ghost-payrolling schemes perpetrated by city officials.

 
Sounds like a plant. Why would anyone in Wyoming be interested in promoting Globalist Chinese industry-killing imports? And anyone with half a brain, knows that tariffs JUST PUT IN, aren't responsible for price-increases of 10 - 50 percent of basic staples over the last YEAR.

People who live in Wyoming aren't generally on welfare and aren't in government or NGO-nonprofit jobs. People who work, have a good idea what inflation is and how it happens.
 
DC is the model for future cities.

It features an exalted Elite Class, Masters of the Universe...who have homes far away and often commute great distances, from Virginia suburban districts, to get in. But that's okay - THEIR carbon can be overlooked, because they're **CHANGING THE WORLD**.

In the city are the peons who perform menial tasks for the Masterminds. Who are mostly paid reasonably well - they have to be to live in a city built on a swamp. Surrounding THEM are their kind, only not employed and often unemployable.

Letting stupid people practicing self-government, tends not to work well. Marion Berry was a perfect illustration of that precept.

But there is no real Middle Class, there. There is the New Royalty, the lords and ministers of government; there is the Magic Money pumped out by the State, and there is the peasantry. There is a government class of lower-ranking functionaries, but it has few of the traits of a true Middle Class - not industry and not autonomy.

The "citizens" of DC are what the Elites hope to REPLACE the American (and Western European) Middle Class WITH. Low-wattage easily-manipulated de-facto chattel.
 

DNI Tulsi Gabbard just joined Hannity to explain why she stripped the security clearances from 37 intelligence “professionals” today.

She prefaced her explanation by laying out the Russiagate conspiracy and provided the public with a quick refresher of Obama’s role in directing the “seditious conspiracy.”

She explained, “ultimately the real crime here was against the American people… to speak of the fact that some of those 37 individuals that we directed the revocation of security clearances from today, under the direction of President Trump, they aided and abetted in this action, this seditious conspiracy…”

Sounds like not only the big time players in the conspiracy are at risk, but everyone who was involved could be held accountable.
 
Goldhedge said:
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Volkswagen's been a dead name for a long time, for those who pay attention.

They have not cared to offer lasting value to consumers, for a long time. It was over ten years ago that a higher-up official MOCKED the idea that VW should support existing product - declaring that it was the customer's "duty" to replace old cars with new models, once the old ones were paid off.

Now, even before the Woke Crisis and Dieselgate, VWs have had issues for proprietary electrical-component failure, without parts support, and general leaky seals in mechanical components - expensive to repair. The days of being able to remove a VW engine with a ratchet wrench, a box wrench, and a simple floor jack (the Type-1 Beetle) are long gone.

It all goes back to 1972 or so. VW was prosperous but its leadership was in chaos, after the death of Heinz Nordhoff; they had no real product-planning going on. A small German company, NSU, was in trouble - they made motorcycles and economy cars, innovative but not sturdy. NSU was the company that Felix Wankel worked for; NSU owned the Wankel patents.

The West German government was far more involved in domestic industry than is permitted in the USA. It was almost the Japanese model - they ordered, ORDERED, Volkswagenwerk to absorb NSU, and issue new stock to NSU shareholders.

As with Chrysler 25 years later - purchasing American Motors, and then having American Motors product-planning and upper management take over the company - NSU influences began steering VW. The Golf/Rabbit was intended as a new NSU model. The Passant/Dasher model was hastily cobbled together from some VW and Audi parts, primarily the Beetle transaxle, to comply with the new focus on FWD cars. (Auto Union had already been purchased by VW.) Porsche family influence of Volkswagenwerk remained, but product-planning was shifted into the direction that NSU management favored.

NSU had never focused on durability. Their offerings were like a German version of Renault - sleek looking, and fragile as tinfoil. NSU failed in the market, and even with the VW name, the combined company has never had the dominance that the original Volkswagenwerk had in the 1960s.

They made money, but little else of any lasting value.

Now they're taking it a step further, and as we loom into a global recession. I expect they are gonna be another casualty of the combined toxins Woke, money-printing, Globalist contempt for the ultimate consumer.
 

Martin Armstrong: The War Cycle Is Peaking — What Comes Next Will Shock the West​

In this exclusive Financial Survival Network interview, legendary forecaster Martin Armstrong returns with urgent insights into the escalating global economic crisis, the fate of the U.S. and European financial systems, and why gold, Bitcoin, and sovereign debt are entering a new phase of chaos.
Armstrong’s Socrates model predicted the timing of the Ukraine war, rising international tensions, and the collapse of public confidence in Western governments. In Part 1, he breaks down:
What You’ll Learn:
Why 2025–2027 is the most dangerous window in 300 years of historical cycles
How sovereign debt crises are converging across the West
The unreported triggers behind the Ukraine conflict and how the West miscalculated
What happens when trust in government collapses across the EU and U.S.
How the World Economic Forum became a proxy for elite power grabs
Why central banks can’t stop inflation and have already lost control
Martin’s take on gold, Bitcoin, and capital flight from the West
This is Part 1 of a multi-part series.

Click here for Part 2 https://bit.ly/4lyvmKI for the forecasts on Gold, The Euro, CBDC's and Bitcoin
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You don't have to be crazy to be a liberal, but it helps!


BOMBSHELL VIDEO: FED AGENTS & DC COPS BUST DRUG DEALER POSING AS HOMELESS – SEIZE MASSIVE DRUGS & CASH HAUL BLOCKS FROM WHITE HOUSE!

You WON'T BELIEVE the CHAOS that ensued: A DERANGED LIBERAL PROTESTER storms in, SCREECHING "PIGS! FASCISTS! TRAITORS!" at the officers, demanding they "GET OUT" and stop "harassing homeless people"! Reporter drops the TRUTH BOMB: "He's a DRUG DEALER, not homeless!" But she IGNORES FACTS, doubles down on her INSANITY via megaphone, and marches past REAL homeless folks without a glance – just another attention-seeking Soros puppet stirring chaos?

Meanwhile, ACTUAL homeless people spill the tea: Feds are "POLITE & RESPECTFUL," only targeting dealers and thugs – "Happy DC is being CLEANED UP!" This is the REAL DC crackdown MSM HIDES because it SHATTERS their "Orange Man Bad" narrative!

Watch the JAW-DROPPING footage NOW before Big Tech buries it! Give my friend & reporter @nickshirleyy a follow on X and YouTube for unfiltered truth!
 
Knowing the score... there are those who believe 'the old system' needs to be defended....

 
Goldhedge said:
Knowing the score... there are those who believe 'the old system' needs to be defended....

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Nice Narrative timeline...but it doesn't mesh with facts.

Trump doesn't understand banking. He wants more ZIRP - and if he can get an MMT Negative-Interest princess installed as Fed Head Printer, he will.

Intentions don't count. I don't think Trump is consciously onboard with the Globalists, rich on all the Helicopter Money that trickled up to them; but currency-debasement by seniorage, only has one outcome. Essentially the outcome we have - the (connected) Rich getting richer.

Trump needs an Austrian advisor, and there are none. Nor is he likely to listen to them. And given the time that seniorage trickle-up takes....we're seeing Covid Helicopter Money enriching Bezos and Gates, just now....given that, it's not likely Trump will even learn from his own mistakes.
 
Casey Jones said:
Trump doesn't understand banking. He wants more ZIRP - and if he can get an MMT Negative-Interest princess installed as Fed Head Printer, he will.
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If he dissolves the FED, which seems likely and issues public debt there is no interest payment at all.
 
Casey Jones said:
Then we get to the Money-Printer-Go-BRRR stage.

Helicopter money. Wiemar economics.

How'd that work during the Coof?
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You are using the fiat debt-money slave system as your metric.

I think that's all going to go away.

How? Tariffs!

The Internal Revenue Service will become the External Revenue Service/system once enough $ comes into the US. It's how the government was originally funded until 1913.

Federal income taxes should fade away as a result. That will allow more money to be in the system. Won't have to borrow and pay interest on private debt instruments. US Notes have no interest payment. Private FRNs do.
 
I don't see it happening. Funding the bloated Fuddrel Goobermint with a sales tax would be problematic.

Funding it with, essentially, a sales tax ONLY ON IMPORTED GOODS would be impossible. Not with our current long-list of redistribution schemes.

First, of course, the heavy duties necessary to pay the budget, would basically stop those imports. Prices cannot just be jacked up - buyers disappear.

Second, without a FRB to buy Treasury scrip, launder it, and leak the new money into the Stawk Market, there would only be one solution to meeting the deficit. Direct money-printing.

Yes, a drastic cutting of the Fuddrel budget would solve that. Right now you see Trump clamoring for ZIRP. Why? SO THEY CAN BORROW MOAR.

That's not fiscal restraint. That's a desire to continue the insane stealth money-printing that's gone on for 20 years.

Abolishing the Fed is a good idea; but only if out of that, the currency is returned to a non-mutable anchor. Precious-metals.
 
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