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Trump says he moved two nuclear submarines after Russia’s Medvedev warns U.S.​

  • President Donald Trump said he ordered two nuclear submarines “to be positioned in the appropriate regions” in response to warnings made to the United States by Russian official Dmitry Medvedev.
  • Medvedev on Monday said that “each new ultimatum” that Trump makes toward Russia in pressuring an end to that nation’s conflict with Ukraine “is a threat and a step towards war.”
President Donald Trump on Friday said that he ordered two nuclear submarines “to be positioned in the appropriate regions” in response to warnings made to the United States this week by high-ranking Russian official Dmitry Medvedev.

Medvedev in a social media post on Monday wrote that each new ultimatum that Trump makes about Russia to force an end to its war on Ukraine “is a threat and a step towards war.”

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So you're saying we have incredible economic numbers and everything is great and Powell should cut rates? So I guess by that logic, when the economy isn't doing well then we should raise rates?

Right about now Powell should be raising rates, not cutting them. Of course that's assuming that the government numbers we are getting from Trump are real. The last thing this economy needs rn is a rate cut and higher inflation. The only reason Trump wants lower rates is because we have Multi trillions in debt that need to be refinanced soon. If he doesn't get lower rates then the interest on that debt will be massive and cut into the budget even more.
 
In one day things have changed. Yesterday was almost 0 chance of a rate cut in Sept, today is 80% chance.
Trump fires head of BLS after being so far off on previous months numbers. A good move by him. So after revising the numbers, yes it does look like a rate cut is a good idea but only if inflation remains low. If inflation starts ticking up then I would be against it.
 
Opinion piece by The Atlantic. DYODD.

Not With a Bang, but With a Truth Social Post​

Donald Trump, beset by a week of bad news, has decided to rattle the most dangerous saber of all. In a post today on his Truth Social site, the president claimed that in response to recent remarks by former Russian President Dmitri Medvedev, he has “ordered two Nuclear Submarines to be positioned in the appropriate regions.” (All American submarines are nuclear-powered; Trump may mean submarines armed with ballistic nuclear weapons.) “Words are very important,” Trump added, “and can often lead to unintended consequences, I hope this will not be one of those instances.”

Read the rest here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...ruth-social-post/ar-AA1JKxpT?ocid=socialshare
 
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In my opinion the above post shows exactly what T thinks of the military and the men and women who serve.
 


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Dutch Lawyer Suing Bill Gates & Pfizer CEO Arrested in Military-Style Raid — WEF Authoritarianism on Full Display

The Netherlands has crossed a dangerous line.

Arno van Kessel, the attorney leading a historic lawsuit against Bill Gates, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, and former WEF chair Klaus Schwab over COVID vaccine injuries, was arrested in a late-night military raid on June 11, 2025.

Blindfolded. Taken away. Locked up without formal charges.

His alleged crime? "Suspicions of anti-institutional activities and potential violence."

In reality? He challenged the architects of pandemic policy—and they silenced him.

Just one month before trial, Dutch special forces raided his home, extending his detention 90 days without due process—erasing habeas corpus, the bedrock of Western justice.

As Jimmy Dore put it: "This is textbook fascism. The regime jails critics, crushes dissent, and shields its corporate allies. Gates, Bourla, and Schwab get impunity while the lawyer fighting for victims disappears into a cell. The ‘free’ West is now the authoritarian West."

The trial moved forward with co-counsel Peter Stassen, but the message couldn’t be clearer: Question COVID orthodoxy, and you will be punished.

Dr. Peter McCullough, whose early warnings about the vaccine were proven right, called it "a chilling, Soviet-style suppression of truth."

The elites would rather imprison you than face accountability.

Will the world stand up—or look away?
 
1.75X Armstrong: "Stable Coins are War Bonds"

Gold Signals War – Martin Armstrong​

Less than two weeks ago, legendary financial and geopolitical cycle analyst Martin Armstrong warned his “Socrates” predictive computer program showed a “100% Chance of Nuclear War.” Since then, a war of words has flared up between President Trump and Russia, and he said Russia “has entered very dangerous territory.” President Trump then,“Orders US nuclear subs repositioned over statements from ex-Russian leader Medvedev.” “After Trump sends nuclear subs near Russia, Putin responds with hypersonic threat — what Oreshnik missiles can do.” If this is not enough to confirm some sort of nuclear exchange is coming soon, add what Secretary of State Marco Rubio just warned this past week. Rubio said, “In case of war with the US, Russia will rely on tactical nuclear weapons due to the weakness of its army.” A top Russian official also “Issues nuclear annihilation warning” and said Russia would “hit back with a devastating blow.”
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Goldhedge said:
1.75X Armstrong: "Stable Coins are War Bonds"

Gold Signals War – Martin Armstrong​

Less than two weeks ago, legendary financial and geopolitical cycle analyst Martin Armstrong warned his “Socrates” predictive computer program showed a “100% Chance of Nuclear War.” Since then, a war of words has flared up between President Trump and Russia, and he said Russia “has entered very dangerous territory.” President Trump then,“Orders US nuclear subs repositioned over statements from ex-Russian leader Medvedev.” “After Trump sends nuclear subs near Russia, Putin responds with hypersonic threat — what Oreshnik missiles can do.” If this is not enough to confirm some sort of nuclear exchange is coming soon, add what Secretary of State Marco Rubio just warned this past week. Rubio said, “In case of war with the US, Russia will rely on tactical nuclear weapons due to the weakness of its army.” A top Russian official also “Issues nuclear annihilation warning” and said Russia would “hit back with a devastating blow.”
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Martin has noticed the same thing about trump as some of the rest of us. Something is definitely wrong in DC. Would he take us into a nuclear war to prevent the release of the Epstein files if his name was on them?
Nuclear war will be the end of the world as we know it. Thats Trump legacy, not that anyone will be left to care.
 
Cigarlover said:
Martin has noticed the same thing about trump as some of the rest of us. Something is definitely wrong in DC.
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I could post in the "Trump goes wacko" thread, but I guess any place is okay.

My gut feeling, my sense, my vibe is that Trump actually intended to do many things he thought would dig out corruption and solve problems in DC. And then at some point, he learned that he had a powerful master, and that master told him in no uncertain terms that he would walk away from those promises. "Find a reason! Or else!"

My vibe is like a store manager makes promises to customers and is suddenly hit with a demand from corporate that he immediately refutes those promises or face immediate termination. Again, "Find a reason!" And the manager escapes into a bad temper, both rage against his new orders and how he must be a traitor to those who believed his promises and supported him. Or he will be terminated and replaced by another who will cheerfully screw his customers once he is out of the way.

I get this feeling about Trump. That he now sees and understands that he is NOT the master of his destiny. A humble man will react one way, but a conceited man will show differently. I suspect that this "fracture" is causing Trump to act in ways that appear schizophrenic as he tries to reconcile his personal "awesomeness" with the pressure from his masters who are fully able to demand and force his obedience.
 

Why did Obama and Hillary like Blackberries? They (thought they) were FOIA proof, for one thing​

The answer to the question of why Hillary and Obama and the like were obsessed with Blackberry phone devices at the time gives you even more insight into what they were doing to undermine Trump.

Remember that story of Hillary's people smashing blackberries with hammers?
This backstory will tell you why.

 
Cigarlover said:
Martin has noticed the same thing about trump as some of the rest of us. Something is definitely wrong in DC. Would he take us into a nuclear war to prevent the release of the Epstein files if his name was on them?
Nuclear war will be the end of the world as we know it. Thats Trump legacy, not that anyone will be left to care.
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If you follow Q, it's said that misdirection is necessary.

Sun Tzu strategies are at work. Appear weak when you are strong...?

Just like Lindsey Graham was pleading for boots on the ground in Iran? Trump goes along with the DS and bombs Iran's nuke refining at their behest and then... nothing. No escalation. No boots on the ground.

Just as NKorea was controlled by the CIA until Trump stepped over the DMZ after collapsing NK's nuclear mountain hideaway, Trump wiped out those that were controlling Iran via Israel.

Prevent the release of the Epstein files?? If they were all so important why didn't Biden release them? Think about it... IF Trump really was involved why didn't they release the files and torpedo Trump 47? My SWAG is they manipulated them to implicate Trump as being at the island. It would be easy to do then right? What's to stop them from doing it? Is there a special lock on them? How would you know? That's why Trump said he'd release the pertinent information from the Grand Jury files.

Trump mentioning he was going to position the nuclear subs... does anyone think those subs aren't already positioned for all possibilities already?? Of course they are! The media and all those folks freaking out - FREAKED OUT!

Bunch of nut jobs iffn you aks me!

And Schumer wants $1B to approve appointments and the MSM crickets?
 


That's not what it shows at all. The New York Times is straight up lying.

1) The Durham annex never states at all that the specific intelligence was “fabricated.” It says the opposite, that his office was never able to “determine definitively whether the purported Clinton campaign plan [intelligence]…was entirely genuine, partially true, a composite pulled from multiple sources, exaggerated in certain respects, or fabricated in its entirety.”

2) At the time the intel which Ben Smith says was “fake” was received, John Brennan took it so seriously that he briefed Obama about it, took notes about it, and stashed the notes away in his safe.

3) James Comey specifically went under oath and cited the Clinton plan intelligence as one of the major reasons he chose to unilaterally usurp the authority of Loretta Lynch and to declare that the U.S. government would not charge Hillary Clinton for her use of an illegal private email server.

4) Comey told Congress that he believed the Clinton plan intelligence was “genuine.” “So far as I knew at the time, and still think,” Comey testified on December 7, 2018, “the material itself was genuine[.]”

5) FBI general counsel James Baker said he was “greatly concerned” about the intel and specifically Lynch’s reaction when confronted with it. Durham’s report said Baker “did not dismiss the credibility” of the intel reports. Andrew McCabe likewise said he was struck by Lynch’s “odd” reaction to the allegations.

6) Everyone on earth knows the Clinton campaign launched a scheme to falsely claim that Trump colluded with Russia. This new claim that somehow it was a fabrication that the Clinton campaign ran an op to falsely tie Trump to Russia is beyond insane. It's sociopathic.
 
‘Clinton Plan’ Emails Were Likely Made by Russian Spies, Declassified Report Shows ……

Anyone remember when that old Russian spy, Skripal, who had retired to Amesbury near Porton Down in uk, was novochik’d by other Russian spys ?
When someone spotted a tie to Misfud / Christopher Steel on Linkdin, the uk gov issued a ‘D’ notice that made it illegal to even mention the link ……

The speculation before the D notice was issued, was that some content in the dodgy dossier was very much written in the style of Skripal and he needed to be shut up because he was demanding more money or he would tell the media what he had been asked to do.

So on this basis, one could claim it was a fabrication created by Russian spys.
 
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The speculation before the D notice was issued, was that some content in the dodgy dossier was very much written in the style of Skripal and he needed to be shut up because he was demanding more money or he would tell the media what he had been asked to do.
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I have long thought exactly this.
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So on this basis, one could claim it was a fabrication created by Russian spys.
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Make that "ex-spy". Sergei Skripal was pretty much inert, probably on a modest UK pension, and occasionally "on call" to give advice on Russian intelligence reports. I think he was given the task of adding to the Steele dossier and later discovered it was way more important than he was told.
 


TRUMP drops post indicating, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that this was TREASON.

Treason conducted at the highest levels of our own U.S. government by the globalist deep state.

They knew exactly what they were doing and even continued the coup after their own intelligence proved otherwise.

There is no way out of this. We have it ALL.

Remember, we do everything by the book. There are no shortcuts. Just hard evidence and the rule of law.

Pay attention to what Trump is specifically showing you along with other in the administration.

Think about what other doors will open related to what other information was in the leaked DNC emails.

Everything has meaning and is all connected.
 


This is what I've been waiting for:

From Drop 586:
What would happen if texts originating from a FBI agent to several [internals] discussed the assassination (possibility) of the POTUS or member of his family?
What if the texts suggest foreign allies were involved?
Forget the Russia set up [1 of 22].
This is only the beginning.
Be careful what you wish for.

From Drop 1589:
LL IS KEY to CONNECTING TO WH / HRC/BC/JB/JC/SP/EH…..
Where are the JC / AM text messages?
Gmail messages?
Burner phone messages?
Call pulls?
Coming soon to a theater near you.
PS/LP texts are only scratching the surface.
Threats of assassination?
They are preparing for this by activating progressive activists.
RED LINE.
Once the documents are supplied and viewed by Senate and Congressional leaders (& the public), they LOSE.
 
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For all the Q doubters who still think Q was a LARP... LOL

Funny how this "Q" nonsense keeps popping up almost as if Q followers had an inside track to what was going on in real time...

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Wait til all the child sacrifice, panda eyes, and abuse REALLY hits the charts! As Q says: "60% must remain private [at least] - for humanity."

Can you imagine what humanity will think if they EVER learn what was really going on with children? Human hunting parties on EU estates. Child sacrifice blood rituals. Morbid stuff that will retch your every being....
 

What Martin Armstrong Said Off-Camera Left Us Speechless…​

Martin Armstrong joins me to break down the real motives behind global war escalation, the multi-trillion dollar racket behind every major conflict, and the AI-powered machinery now driving U.S. policy from the shadows. We also dive into:

The 50-day window Russia is watching
Why Zelensky won’t survive politically—or physically
Macron’s insane plan to seize $75 trillion in Russian assets
NATO’s false flag ambitions to invoke Article 5
Why “Putin is the most responsible leader alive”
The return of the Ottoman Empire?
And yes… how Google is algorithmically suppressing the truth
Martin doesn't hold back. And this time, neither do we. This is the stripped-down, essential version of our interview, trimmed for clarity and maximum impact.
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