Bugging out .. to the USA? Trump to sell $5mn gold cards

[pmbug]

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he wants to begin selling gold cards for $5 million to foreigners who want to move to the U.S. and create jobs.

Trump said the immigration program, which he said was legal, could start in about two weeks. He added it is possible Russian oligarchs could qualify for the gold cards.

Trump wants to sell $5 million gold cards to foreigners who will create US jobs

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he wants to begin selling gold cards for $5 million to foreigners who want to move to the U.S. and create jobs. Trump said the immigration program, which he said was legal, could start in about two weeks. He added it is possible Russian oligarchs could...

www.yahoo.com

 

[nickndfl]

Good idea. Other countries do the same thing.

 

[Fatrat]

While being an American has value, 5 million?....

 

[Viking]

I'll take 5 Million to stay.

 

[searcher]

Donald Trump's Gold Card Visa: Elon Musk Gives New Update​

Billionaire Elon Musk on Sunday confirmed through a post on X, formerly Twitter, that the previously discussed $5 million "gold card" immigration visa will be rolled out sooner than later as the government finishes a "quiet trial" of the system.

Newsweek reached out to the White House by email outside of normal business hours on Sunday for comment.

Why It Matters​

President Donald Trump focused heavily on illegal immigration during his 2024 presidential campaign, promising to enact mass deportations after taking office—a promise he kept, and with much public backing even as polling indicated that he was losing public trust on other issues.

However, while trying to deport illegal immigrants, the administration has looked at expanding certain legal avenues of immigration—most famously encapsulated in the fierce debate around the H-1B employment-based visa for high-skilled workers.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...S&cvid=3c1e534f10e1434495d9a6e5cff02797&ei=24

 

[Joe King]

That's a great idea.

 

[searcher]

Trump isn't the the only one doing this.

Rich Americans flock to apply for New Zealand’s ‘golden visas’ after rules relaxed

Coalition government loosened requirements for its Active Investor Plus visa in bid to boost flagging economy

www.theguardian.com

 

[pmbug]

^^:

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The new rules, which came into effect in April, lowered investment thresholds, removed English-language requirements and cut the amount of time applicants must spend in the country to establish residency from three years to three weeks.

Immigration New Zealand says the scheme has attracted 189 applications, representing 609 people, under the new rules. Prior to the changes, the visa attracted 116 applications over 2.5 years.

Nearly half the investors who have applied hail from the US, representing 85 applications, followed by China, 26, and Hong Kong, 24. Residents from countries across Asia and Europe make up the rest of the applicants.

“Nearly everyone who is applying is applying because of the changes they’re seeing under the Trump administration,” said Stuart Nash, a former Labour party minister, who now runs Nash Kelly Global, an immigration and relocation consultancy.

Under the new rules, 149 applied under the visa’s “growth” category, which requires a minimum $5m investment over three years, and 40 applied under the “balanced” category, which requires a minimum $10m investment over five years.
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Meanwhile...

The number of people leaving New Zealand last year to live overseas reached its highest on record, according to new figures.

According to Stats NZ, there were 127,800 migrant departures (up 28%) in the year to November 2024 — "provisionally, the highest on record for an annual period".

A total of 72,900 New Zealand citizens left the country to live overseas during that period, with 56% going to Australia.

At the same time, the number of people moving to New Zealand dropped to 158,400, down 32% on the same period in 2023.
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Number of people leaving New Zealand hits 'highest on record'

The number of people heading off to live elsewhere reached its highest on record last year, according to new figures.

www.1news.co.nz

New Zealand is experiencing a significant exodus of its citizens, with new data from Stats NZ revealing record-breaking migration losses. In the year leading up to April 2024, a net migration loss of 56,500 citizens was recorded, exceeding the previous high of 52,000 set in the year to March 2024.
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Olsen also highlighted that many are making permanent moves in search of better living conditions. He warned that the ongoing issue of housing affordability and job prospects could make it challenging to attract New Zealanders back, posing a ‘brain drain’ risk as the population ages.
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Why New Zealand is seeing a record number of its citizens leaving

New figures reveal that New Zealand citizens are departing the country in record numbers, with a significant portion moving to Australia. According to Stats NZ’s provisional international migration data, an estimated 1,30,600 people left the country in the year leading up to April, marking the...

www.firstpost.com

 

[Casey Jones]

I'd rather have these kinds of immigrants, than the kind that pResident Alzheimer welcomed.

But I think they'd be making a mistake. We're on the cusp of civil war - at least one observer (filmmaker J. J. Carrell over on Coffee & a Mike, Mike Farris, Rumble) predicts no solution to this poisoning of the culture - it's either cultural surrender and destruction, or violent, house-to-house civil war.

He's not a bombthrower. He makes a rational case for it.

Me, were I a Euroweenie zillionaire, buying my way into the Untied Skates...I'd feel a bit uncomfortable, given our present situation.

 

[searcher]

The Price of Trump's Gold Card and Where Else You Can Live​

Jun 29, 2025
The US has had a version of an investment visa since the early 20th century, so what’s new about President Trump’s "gold card" and how does it compare with other countries’ investment immigration programs? LSE’s Kristin Surak explains different incentives of countries' golden visa and passport programs and why some countries have shut them down. New Zealand’s Former Minister of Economic Development Stuart Nash explains country’s revamped investment immigration program. Cato Institute’s Alex Nowrasteh takes a different approach to immigration and says that the market is best placed to determine the right price of immigration.


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[Casey Jones]

Imagine being a business mogul from Trashkanistan, getting the Gold Card...and going to Gnu Yark, and finding that someone WORSE than your Grand Poobah is running the city right into Idiocracy.

The joke's on them. This nation is done.

All that's left is to figure out where to hide. I can't afford the Caymans....

 

[nickndfl]

Try Albania, Panama, NaTrang, Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, or Thailand.

 

[Casey Jones]

Except for Albania, they're all non-white.

Which doesn't bother me, much. It WILL concern THEM - I'll be loved mostly for the dollars that can be liberated from me. And when the dollar dies, white-devils who bring dollars, will probably die in their midst.

Die nasty. The third world, and most of humans in most of history, is/are TRIBAL. I'll be the outsider forever. When I'm in a wheelchair - which may be soon, the way things are going - nobody in those places will be concerned with protecting my property or rights.

It is what it is. And what it is, is an ugly time...this is no time for old men.

 

[Fatrat]

Imagine being a business mogul from Trashkanistan, getting the Gold Card...and going to Gnu Yark, and finding that someone WORSE than your Grand Poobah is running the city right into Idiocracy.

The joke's on them. This nation is done.

All that's left is to figure out where to hide. I can't afford the Caymans....

40 below keeps the rifraf out...

 

[nickndfl]

I have an opportunity to buy some inexpensive acreage up in the mountains of east TN. Would be a good place for cooler weather than FL in the summer.

I was thinking of touring SE Asia in 2 years, but might not be inexpensive anymore considering the planned devaluation of the $USD. The dollar will still be transactional, but no longer the long term storage of wealth which is being replaced by PMs and BTC.

I believe the next big change will be after the midterm elections when the FED chair is replaced and growth is ignited again.

 

[Fatrat]

Lots of Floridians retire up north...sell now overpriced land here and buy 20-200 acres in Tennessee, Kentucky, or Georgia....not bad.

 

[Viking]

I have an opportunity to buy some inexpensive acreage up in the mountains of east TN. Would be a good place for cooler weather than FL in the summer.

I was thinking of touring SE Asia in 2 years, but might not be inexpensive anymore considering the planned devaluation of the $USD. The dollar will still be transactional, but no longer the long term storage of wealth which is being replaced by PMs and BTC.

I believe the next big change will be after the midterm elections when the FED chair is replaced and growth is ignited again.

Do it.

 

[Casey Jones]

Lots of Floridians retire up north...sell now overpriced land here and buy 20-200 acres in Tennessee, Kentucky, or Georgia....not bad.

Interesting. Floriduh Man retiring North. Damn-Yankees heading to the Land of Swamps and Skeeters, to await their own final destinies.

...and, as noted moar and moar often, regretting it. Summers can be fearful - witness Eww Toober Michael Bordenaro, former realtor, who moved to Florida as a young man starting out. Now, fifteen years later, he's ambiguous about it - land-prices have exploded, and with it, tax liabilities. And the hot-hot summers.

Know what this smells like? Like a century ago. When the Summer Season, for the upper castes, was to pile into a railway train, and go north in summer. To various parts of New York or Vermont or Maine. To the Rockies, if you had even moar money.

For almost 70 years, we've been able to just turn the thermostat up, stay in, afternoons, and forget the heat. Until we got Global Warmers with their WEF-amplified histronics.

We're going back - except that railroad passenger trains are now run by da gubbermint, with all the service-compromises expected. Cars are now designed by gubbermint regulators, and are less reliable than kids' 1960s go-carts. Airlines demand government papers (Real-ID) and, soon, rationing of airline usage.

Anyway, the pilots all got gubbermint injections, and are dying at speeds that have gubbermint doctors "baffled." And DEI ATC professionals are finding "unprecedented situations" around busy ports.

Maybe Jim Kunstler and Dave Collum are right - when we start reverting, we won't stop at 1800s-levels of technologies. We'll go right to Jamestown-Colony lifestyles.

 

[nickndfl]

I have worked all over the SE USA and CA, but exclusively in FL now. I been ready to downsize for 2 years, but my wife is very active. I figure to build her a small studio for yoga and sound bowl therapy to where she could work the entire SE USA teaching and get.out of my hair once a month.

I also figure being out in the woods and out of traffic will increase my lifespan. We did the beach thing for 5 years and although it is second nature I am ready for some new adventures. I might build in Hobe Sound, FL too way out by Pratt & Whitney away from everybody.

I watch a few people on YouTube traveling through SE Asia on $1500/month living expenses which would be great for me, however my wife is not a light traveler. She is more like bring the whole house in 10 suitcases which is a problem.