Civil Asset Forfeiture

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If the ptb have their way probably won't be any cash in the near future.
 

Been following since this happened. Steve L's vids on this are always good. Wonder if the peeps will ever get their stuff back or will the gov keep fighting.

What's that saying........don't keep all your eggs in one basket.
 
Been following since this happened. Steve L's vids on this are always good. Wonder if the peeps will ever get their stuff back or will the gov keep fighting.

What's that saying........don't keep all your eggs in one basket.

The govt. has deep pockets (thanks to our tax dollars) & will always fight to the last. Then if they lose, they'll just figure another way whether lawful, semi-lawful or completely unlawful, to get what they want.
 
Civil asset forfeture is just the .gov's way of punishing people for not holding "their" money via a third party that reports to them.


I say "theirs", because the gov doesn't see the people the money is taken from as actually owning the physical cash. Ultimately, the .gov sees that as their property that has misbehaved.
 

Should You Replevin Your Flivver?​

Feb 15, 2023

A question we've been asking now for a hundred years. 11:12
 

 
Fantastic news (from 2021? it's not clear if this is recent or not):
 
Fantastic news (from 2021? it's not clear if this is recent or not): ...

I consider the Institute for Justice and extremely worthwhile group in my book. They took on a fairly small Illinois city, Granite City to be exact, about one of the City's harass the landlords situation. Landlords these days seem to become fair game for politicians seeking more controll and more fees. The IFG won the case and after that I send in a small annual contribution to their cause. I seems like all their cases are for the small guy and are not devoted tp some sort of anti white agenda many other groups are.
 
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Man Gets MOST of His Money Back After CAF Seizure​

Mar 2, 2023

It's a win - sort of. 10:10
 


The FBI just went after the contents of a storage vault and decided to keep as much treasure as they could. Makes you wonder about using gold vaulting services if they are located in the USA...
 
Institute for Justice once again



Linky stuff:

Andrew Wimer · March 20, 2023

ARLINGTON, Va.—Following a two-and-a-half-year legal battle, the $39,500 seized from small business owner Jerry Johnson at the Phoenix, Arizona, airport was finally returned to him this weekend. Jerry was never charged with a crime, but the state attempted to take his savings through civil forfeiture. After a trial court judge ruled Jerry did not even have standing to contest the forfeiture of his money, the Institute for Justice (IJ), a nonprofit public interest law firm, intervened and successfully appealed Jerry’s case.


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Civil Asset Forfeiture Victim Gets His Money Back​

Mar 23, 2023

Another win for the Institute for Justice. 12:35
 
A Detroit man has filed a federal civil rights lawsuit alleging county prosecutors illegally retaliated against him after he challenged the seizure of his car under asset forfeiture laws.

The lawsuit, filed Thursday on behalf of Robert Reeves by the Institute for Justice, a libertarian-leaning public interest law firm, claims that Wayne County prosecutors twice filed baseless criminal charges against him after he joined a class-action lawsuit in an attempt to get his seized car back, violating his First and 14th Amendment rights.

 

9% interest is a nice touch
 


1st paragraph =
 
1st paragraph =
It's but one more symptom of what happens when the People allow those into power who hate and hold contempt towards the principles and ideals enshrined in our nations Founding Documents.

It's also what ya get when the why's and how-fors of how those Documents should work and why they were written in the first place, are no longer taught in public schools for the past few generations.


If only Americans guarded their Rights as well as the Muslims defend their faith at the slightest perception of attack, we would not be in this spot.
For far too long, and primarily due to ignorance, too many have been more than willing to allow their Rights to be whittled away in the name of going along to get along.
 
From the .PDF:
Preach.
 
What it comes down to, is that for the most part, reps that people have elected to represent them in government view the Peoples Rights as enshrined in the Constitution, with contempt.

Civil asset forfeiture is just their way (they wrote the laws creating it) of shitting all over the 4th and 5th Amendments.
...and then they shit on it again when they see the abuse, but refuse to fix the situation.

If they actually cared about such things as due process, and making sure the gov never takes anything without exceedingly good reason to do so, and without compensation, they wouldn't even consider treasonous "laws" such as these.



Edited to add:....but everyone be sure to keep supporting the so-called mainstream politicians who write laws like this. Anything else would be radical. Or so we're told anyways.
 

 

Texas jury rejects trucker’s claim to seized money​

MAY 23, 2023

A jury has ruled against a truck driver whose money was seized as he was traveling to purchase a second tractor-trailer.

The trial started last Tuesday, May 16. The jury delivered its verdict Monday afternoon. More than $40,000 was seized during a traffic stop on Interstate 10 in eastern Harris County, Texas.

Deputies from the Harris County Sheriff’s Office said Ameal Woods was following a box truck too closely in his rental car on the morning of May 14, 2019, so they stopped him.

More here:

 
Years ago I found the following story that I recall occurred in Pennsylvania.

(from memory)

An individual was arrested and found to have gold coins in his possession. They were booked into evidence. At this point everything is fine. Then the watch captain found out or heard of the evidence taken in to police handling for safe keeping. The captain then writes a personal check for the face value of the gold coins. The detaining was released but found out that his property was converted and his subsequent complaint was rejected and he got basically nothing.

Imagine getting an ounce of gold for $50. What a windfall.................
 
That's what happens when the People keep voting for traitorous f's to run their nation.
 


 

Public Interest Advocates Applaud Nevada Lawmakers for Increasing Transparency in Forfeiture Process, Call for More Reforms​

June 2, 2023

ARLINGTON, Va.—Today, Nevada Gov. Joe Lombardo signed AB 350, a bill that will increase transparency in the state’s forfeiture process—a process through which police seize and the state keeps property without charging property owners with a crime, let alone convicting them.

The Institute for Justice (IJ), the nation’s leading advocate against civil forfeiture, and other advocates applaud the new law and call for lawmakers to continue to reform the state’s forfeiture laws in future sessions.

Police will now be required to report additional detailed information to the Attorney General for each seizure and forfeiture done under state law, and the Attorney General’s office must publish that information on its website. Among the information that now will be required:

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