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Easy, Israelis have been murdering Palestinians since before 1948...poisoning well, bulldozing school children, spraying crops with herbicides, and many many evil deeds...burning and bombing churches...
As to the arch, city officials condemned poor people houses, stole the land and built the arch to glorify them selves, called Urban Renewal.
Irrelevant.

If you're dumb enough to attack someone who has the ability to use overwhelming force against you, you should probably think twice before jumping the fence to murder and kidnap people.

Prior to Oct 7th, Gaza wasn't being invaded.

All they had to do was to stay on their side.
 
Irrelevant.

If you're dumb enough to attack someone who has the ability to use overwhelming force against you, you should probably think twice before jumping the fence to murder and kidnap people.

Prior to Oct 7th, Gaza wasn't being invaded.

All they had to do was to stay on their side.
Why do you think israel created Hamas, the leadership lives outside of Palestine so they never get hurt, and yes, prior to Oct 7th, Gaza was being invaded by settlers hiding behind idf soldiers...
 
Why do you think israel created Hamas, the leadership lives outside of Palestine so they never get hurt, and yes, prior to Oct 7th, Gaza was being invaded by settlers hiding behind idf soldiers...
TheN the people in Gaza are stupid for following them.

The attack on Israel came at the hands of people in Gaza.
 
Israeli lies..." Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth" Joseph Goebbels
They did so. They killed people and took hostage's. Then killed a bunch of them, too. No one made them do that. They chose to do it.
 
Yes, exactly what Israelis have been doing since 1948...
Israel has been being attacked since day one. All they've done is to respond to it.


For better or worse, Britain got control of that land after WW1. They used it to create Israel. Was their choice. They could have created a Palestinian State instead, but they didn't. Was their call.
 
Israel has been being attacked since day one. All they've done is to respond to it.


For better or worse, Britain got control of that land after WW1. They used it to create Israel. Was their choice. They could have created a Palestinian State instead, but they didn't. Was their call.
You are really missing it, Israel can't be attacked, it's the invader and enslaveor of Palestine and Palestinians.
 
You are really missing it, Israel can't be attacked, it's the invader and enslaveor of Palestine and Palestinians.
The Brits owned it. Before that it was the Ottoman Empire.

The Palestinian people haven't had control of it since the time of the bronze age.

They've essentially been little more than renters on the land.

What you seem to want, is for the Brits to have given it to them instead.

Perhaps they should have.
....but for whatever reason, they didn't.

Nothin' we can do about that now.

It'd be like telling you and me and everyone else in America today that we gotta leave because the people who lived here before all of our ancestors got here, would like to have it back due to the fact that some of our ancestors killed some Indians prior to 1776.

Oh well. Too late now. You don't/can't hold it ? Then you don't really own it. Sorry 4. Time to get over it.
.....or figure out a way to take it back.
.....but that requires attacking Israel.
.....and if attacked, you gotta expect Israel to defend itself.



The fact is, Israel got created. Time to learn to deal with it.
.....and same applies to them too, as far as having to hold it to own it.

Let's see what happens with this talk of cutting their aid.

If Trump actually does that, what will your new complaint about Israel be?

Just askin', as it seems like no matter the thread, you find a way to turn the subject to Israel.


My opinion is that both sides over there seem kinda f'ed up.
....but with all the attacks over the decades, along with all the suicide bombings, I can kinda see why Israel takes the hard stance on things that they do. They've been being attacked since day one.



Israel doesn't have the cleanest of hands, but neither do the "river to the sea" people have clean hands.
....but both sides portray themselves as nothing less than Saints
.......and we all know that that sure as f' ain't true.
 
It remains Palestine, cut off the stolen American tax money and it dies...
 
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