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Its all very well the controllers deeming all info to be classified 'in case it panics the sheep' but the end result is that it gets blown out of all proportion on the internet.

Oh wait, they like it when we are fearful ............

This sounds like something to question though -

 
Well, depends on what you mean there. Some things really should be classified. For example, that book of nuke spectra, if revealed, would result in the more or less immediate deaths of the agents who provided some of the info on adversary ones. They'd know right away who leaked the info. Not many have access, here or elsewhere.

This is NOT to say I have any sympathy with the current intelligence community. They are clearly out of control. But even they aren't killing those who aid us, at least not deliberately.

The real issue with the Japanese seems to be the sort of pride they call "face". It's more like hubris than the sort of pride that makes you want to excel in whatever you do, in "face" more important to look good than be good.

I know it's a fine distinction for some - not those here - but really, it's not bragging, if as Cassius Clay said, you really and reliably can knock the guy out in the predicted round. That's just an honest assessment - it would be hubris-pride if you or I said that.

The Japanese version (face) is what's causing the ongoing problems here, IMO. They clearly know more than they're telling, and also don't know it all - count on it. If they were more forthcoming about what they know - and the gaps in that - they could get more help from others. But they are too proud to really ask, or to turn it over to people who don't care where the cards fall and would just fix things (which might be contractors who aren't Japanese). Fix the problem, not the blame! They don't seem to be cool with that idea, at least the government or TEPCO...another result of their culture, as their normal (not state) businesses have that as their motto - Just fix it.

I kind of doubt the China syndrome is going to happen, which is not to say there's not still enough decay heat in the junk to make a steam explosion. Fission requires a moderator to go critical (other than in very carefully refined bomb-grade stuff that fissions well with fast neutrons). You just can't do it with reactor fuel. People should read up on why and how Fermi has so much respect for figuring out you had to "lump" fuel and moderator to get the reaction to "go". It's not simple at all, even with the somewhat-enriched fuel they were using.

I'm not sure, having kept and bred fish myself, that a pic of one sick fish means too much. Some of mine got pretty ill with no rads at all...you'd need enough fish to get a statistically significant sample there. And I've not yet managed to get to the sushi place with a geiger counter, so I don't know if there's risk (even on the east coast). It's a long drive to a very expensive place - something I only treat myself to now and then. I'd not try that at a place where I'm not pretty good friends with the owner anyway, as I am in that case. I do know they get their fish flown in from wherever, which could well include the pacific, so it's worth doing, but I have a long TODO list.

FWIW, I logged in from my raspberry pi for this post. Dunno if the reduced-feature browser it runs slowly will remember my login, we'll see next time if it did. Nice not to need much power at all for this...
 
Once again you are the voice of reason Fusor.

I agree its Jap pride that gets in the way of developing the best fix.
What will it take for them to swallow their pride and effectively surrender ?

its ironic that it was a couple of nuclear blasts last time .........

Good to learn that the melting fuel rods, that have apparently escaped the container vessel, cannot really do much beyond polluting the ground water.
 
Even WWII nuke didn't stick. Abe just caused a major fluffle at the WWII memorial, remember.

A culture takes a long time to change. The Japs are more xenophobic than we ever were racist - and it took us quite awhile - if you can say we're there even now, some would say otherwise, though now, in the US, there's more anti-white racism than the other way around as a %. Don't hold your breath on the japs. Not this lifetime.

They are not even having sex with each other these days, and losing population...they're goin' down, like Kyle Bass says. Just a matter of time.

That mess won't end the world, but it's going to take a long time to stop stinking. It could well be the signal for the end of their world, though.

They need more bushido, and less face. They won't see that. You can't help, they won't accept it.
 
hey there , I was wondering if anyone has any recent news about our favorite nuclear disaster , credible news that is

I cannot find any News that is recent , it’s all like 2-3 years old News , what the feck?
 
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hey there , I was wondering if anyone has any recent news about our favorite nuclear disaster that is credible?

I cannot find anything in the last 2-3 years , what the feck?
well, we've not seen either a Godzilla or any of his enemies come out of the sea yet, so, that's a good thing


and besides, if we don't know about it, it must be o.k., o.k.?

sarc
 
hey there , I was wondering if anyone has any recent news about our favorite nuclear disaster , credible news that is

I cannot find any News that is recent , it’s all like 2-3 years old News , what the feck?
Because it would be really nice for those in charge if we the little people would just forget about it.
....but had it happened in a nation they want us to see as the enemy, we'd never stop hearing about it.
 
it's Hot!


last i read, they had determined to release some of that water they had in some of those tanks, idk if they ever did or not



Ten years later, here's what Fukushima's damaged reactors look like today​


Cleanup is in its early days, and some communities near the disaster are still unable to return​




from 2021


watched it...kinda says 'nothing new'
 
the video said they would run out of storage space for the contaminated water in 2022

stay tuned
 
I remember a recent report which said they were going to start releasing the water into the ocean.
 
I remember a recent report which said they were going to start releasing the water into the ocean.


maybe the start of the Third Plague mentioned in Revelations





Then the third angel poured out his bowl on the rivers and springs of water, and they became blood.
 
important news is being buried and kept out of view globally , maybe just the locals know what is going on

another important news story that has been buried for over 5 years is the Insurance File on Anthony Weiners laptop

i have been trolling Mayor Guilianni on FB and ask him every chance i get what is he going to do with the evidence on Weiners laptop

so if i come up missing , blame Rudy

a lot of older important news is being purged from the records
 
Oct 19, 2022:
 

 

 

"Currently, the plant stores over 1.3 million tons of water treated by ALPS. The water discharge is set to begin this summer and will take decades to complete, which Japanese officials view as an unavoidable step in the decommissioning process."

anyone know why they can't let the water evaporate thus reducing the amount of contaminated water?
 
"Currently, the plant stores over 1.3 million tons of water treated by ALPS. The water discharge is set to begin this summer and will take decades to complete, which Japanese officials view as an unavoidable step in the decommissioning process."
Because there is a limit as to how much water can be stored.


anyone know why they can't let the water evaporate thus reducing the amount of contaminated water?
Because it is the water itself that is contaminated. This is not a situation similar to water with salt in it, where the water is evaped off while leaving the salt behind.

If it were that simple, you don't think they'd already be doing that?
 
After "Trust the science!" I'm not sure they would....
 
After "Trust the science!" I'm not sure they would....
But Fukashima happened before "trust the science".

Per my understanding, the problem with evaping the water, if that it has tritium in it. Tritium is an isotope of hydrogen and with oxygen, forms HTO.

HTO is like water, but contains one atom each of hydrogen tritium and oxygen and is radioactive.
....and it will evaporate along with the H2O water.

I have read that evaporating the water will leave behind most of the fission products, just not the tritium.
 
The USA should purchase Fukushima and move Congress to it.
 
SEOUL, June 29 (Reuters) - South Korean shoppers are snapping up sea salt and other items as worry grows about their safety with Japan due to dump more than 1 million metric tons of treated radioactive water from a wrecked nuclear power plant into the sea.

 

South Korean shoppers hoard salt and seafood ahead of Japan’s release of treated radioactive water​

Yesterday 11:59 PM

In many supermarkets across South Korea, one item has conspicuously vanished from shelves: salt.

For the past month, the country has struggled with severe sea salt shortages as shoppers snap it up in bulk, reflecting heightened public anxiety ahead of the planned release of treated radioactive water from Fukushima, Japan.

Japanese authorities and the United Nations’ nuclear watchdog agency have insisted that the plan is safe, meets international standards and matches what nuclear plants do around the world, including those in the United States. The treated contaminated water will be highly diluted and released gradually into the Pacific Ocean over many years.

More:

 
Which will lead to a worse ecosystem disruption, releasing radioactive waste into the seas or deep sea mining (dredging of the sea floor)?
 
TOKYO, Aug 20 (Reuters) – Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida said he will meet fishermen as soon as Monday to seek their understanding of the government’s plan to release radioactive water from the wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant into the Pacific.

Getting the tacit approval of organizations representing the fisherman is considered the final hurdle for the plan to release the treated waste water, a move the government says it wants to begin this summer.

 
Which will lead to a worse ecosystem disruption, releasing radioactive waste into the seas or deep sea mining (dredging of the sea floor)?


I can't see either one of them being good for the environment.
 
Which will lead to a worse ecosystem disruption, releasing radioactive waste into the seas or deep sea mining (dredging of the sea floor)?

I'd have to go with dredging if the relative levels are basically normal background levels as implied.

They love to seed fear with nuclear anything, now that is a genuine phobia in many peoples minds as apposed to the much touted sexual 'phobias' of identity politics. Nuke inspire genuine irrational fear. Nukeaphobia!
 



 
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