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Fatrat said:
Trump announced all the Iranian sea mines were gone, gas prices should collapse any day now...
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Yup.

Because it's all manipulated. And controlled by the algos.

The algos see buzzwords in the nooze feeds, they react by dumping or panic-buying, as programmed.

It's so GD obvious, it's apparent they don't even care that we know, anymore.
 
Fatrat said:
Trump announced all the Iranian sea mines were gone, gas prices should collapse any day now...
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It's been $3.65 for awhile now, but I saw $3.56 last night.

If things were even half as bad as the detractors would have us believe, gas would be going up. Not staying the same or going slightly lower.

We had over $5 gas during Biden's term and it was downplayed.

Now we got actual shooting going on over there and gas is under $4?

Seems like it's being blown out of proportion to me.
 
That's the same logic as, "The stawk markets are going up, so everything must be AWESOME!!"

That overlooks a few (a lot of) critical factors.
 
Fatrat said:
Will Israel let Trump run away? Will Trump build up missiles and re-engage? Stay tuned for our next thrilling episodes of As The World Turns...
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Does Trump even WANT to. Everything I see, suggests he's smashing things for the sheer brain-stem joy of it.
 
Casey Jones said:
That's the same logic as, "The stawk markets are going up, so everything must be AWESOME!!"

That overlooks a few (a lot of) critical factors.
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Yea, like the factor of Iran having nukes.
....and yea, I know the, "but they been sayin' that for years", trope.

The IAEA said they were 6 months to at most a year from having them. I don't know 'bout you, but in my World, 6 months from having nukes is the definition of "imminent".
 
Casey Jones said:
They've been six months from having them for forty years.

About as long as the Republicans were going to balance the "next" budget.
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It was never "they are 6 months from having a nuke". It was "they are working towards it".


The IAEA draws a sharp distinction between having the necessary raw materials and actually building a deployable weapon:

The Fissile Material (Days to Weeks away): According to the IAEA's baseline metrics before recent military strikes, Iran's "breakout time"—the time needed to enrich its existing 60% uranium stockpile to the 90% weapons-grade threshold—was close to zero, likely a matter of days or a week.


The Weaponization Process (Months to a Year away):

IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi explicitly denied that Iran was "days or weeks away from building a bomb". The IAEA reports that Iran still lacks a viable nuclear weapon design, a tested explosive detonation system, and the metallurgy experience required to cast uranium into a missile warhead. Security analysts estimate this weaponization process would take nine months to a full year


They've never been so close.

Trump moved when he did because there wasn't 6 months to year to be able to wait.
 
"That novel coronavirus represents an existential threat towards all humanity. And with Project Warp Speed, we can beat it. But none of us are safe unless all of us are vaccinated."

How many of their lies am I expected to believe?
 
Casey Jones said:
"That novel coronavirus represents an existential threat towards all humanity. And with Project Warp Speed, we can beat it. But none of us are safe unless all of us are vaccinated."

How many of their lies am I expected to believe?
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I'm just looking at what the most recent IAEA report said.

It would explain why Trump didn't wait until after the election to do this. He didn't think we had a year to put it off.

A lotta peeps against all of it, use the IAEA report to say they don't have one. Yes currently that is true, but they skip the "6 months to a year" part of the report.


I have no way of knowing if its true or not, but it's all we have to go by.
 
Cover the current situation in Iran & deep state

Iran's Regime Isn't Fighting Anymore, They're Negotiating EXILE​

00:00 The embassy staff are going back
01:38 "Iran won" — and the peace treaty that isn't coming
05:26 Scott Bessent's financial D-Day
06:28 Saudi, Turkey, Pakistan — and the Abraham Accords
09:10 The casualty numbers nobody is showing you
11:50 Shutting the money off
14:04 Was it already a done deal?
16:57 Cutting bait: the men above the senior managers
19:18 Arrogance, Comey, and why truth is easier
21:12 Which CCP are we talking about?
22:31 The ARC — America, Russia, China
26:36 Lavrov at the Vatican
28:53 Andy Burnham and the missile blueprints
31:59 Why Ireland is the laboratory
37:03 Q, and the technologies they kept from us
39:09 How do you tell everybody?
42:46 The clean-up war after this war
45:12 The apocalypse optimist
 


  • Iran and Oman said they are approaching a deal to secure safe transit through the Strait of Hormuz.
  • Oil prices extended declines, despite traffic on the Strait falling by two-thirds from their 10-day average.
  • The U.S. has held off on extending significant secondary sanctions under “economic D-Day” after China’s retaliation threat.

Iran and Oman prepare Hormuz deal as U.S. holds back on secondary sanctions

Iran and Oman are approaching a deal to secure safe transit through the Strait of Hormuz and future administration of the vital economic artery.
www.cnbc.com
 
I can't speak as to the veracity of this but it is probably true.

 
Note: This a short vid in which Rachael Maddow brings up Heggie (and T's) lack of foresight in starting the war with Iran.

 

BOOM! Pete Hegseth just CALLED OUT the media: "These cameras have a choice. You either inform the American people of the truth or your are not."

"Here is a fact you don't hear on the networks that we know."

"Many of the Iranian military factories and bases that we are destroying were paid for by the pallets of American cash that Barack Obama flew into the Tehran under the Iran deal. You might call it an inconvenient truth."

"Iran took our money and turned it into weapons, bunker, ammo. Now we're destroying the weapons and you are righting that grievous wrong. Make no mistake, we had to act. Objectives clear. No nukes, no Navy, complete dismantling of the missile program and defense industrial base."

"We're here to win and we are full speed ahead."

WINNING!
 
What we believe might be incorrect...

Trump's FAKE War Just TRAPPED The Globalists​

00:00 Why He Calls the Iran War Fake
00:20 Narrative First, Actual Second
03:26 What "Fake and Gay" Actually Means
05:54 Trump Says the Outrageous Thing on Purpose
07:25 The Discombobulate
08:33 But People Have Died — How Is That Fake?
11:04 The Global Disentanglement Operation
13:08 Iraq, Vietnam, Libya: When Washington Lied Before
15:18 What the End of This War Would Have to Look Like
17:08 A Child Protection Worker Reads the War
19:00 The Middle East Builds Its Own Security
20:40 Venezuela: The Fake Regime Change
25:22 Both Sides Have to Save Face
28:00 4,000 Civilians and What Official Numbers Are Worth
32:45 "I Don't Care. This Has to Be Done."
34:42 Could Anyone Actually Coordinate This?
39:34 Why Is London Panicking?
42:22 Ukraine, the Cartels and the Same Apparatus
44:39 A Wartime Treasury Secretary
45:31 What the Pauses Were For
 
Goldhedge said:
"Many of the Iranian military factories and bases that we are destroying were paid for by the pallets of American cash that Barack Obama flew into the Tehran under the Iran deal. You might call it an inconvenient truth."
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I do not dispute this.
Goldhedge said:
"Iran took our money and turned it into weapons, bunker, ammo.
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I do not dispute this. But they also had a huge income from selling their oil. This income seems to not benefit their citizens and rather expand their offensive military capability.

I oppose the military junta in Iran in 1942 (?) and the west installing the Shah as a dictator.

The 1979 revolution was even worse. Did the DS choose the Aytatollah or did they just lose grasp of their project?
 
Casey Jones said:
That's the same logic as, "The stawk markets are going up, so everything must be AWESOME!!"

That overlooks a few (a lot of) critical factors.
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It just seems like if it were truly going as badly as some are saying, that it would be reflected in the price of oil and gas.

If we could have told virtually anyone a year ago that in one year there would be war in the Persian Gulf and that the average US gas price would be $4.10 per gallon, they'd have called us cRaZy.

Heck, I woulda called us cRaZy too. I am amazed it isn't, and didn't go higher than it has.

It was $3.19 a year ago. Up today by merely .90 cents.


Personally, I don't really care a whole lot if gas is $2.50, or $5.00, or the current $3.65 I saw about 45 minutes ago.
.....but I realize a lot of others do. I'm just sayin' it's not nearly as bad as it coulda been.
 

Strait of Hormuz Brief: 27 August, 2026

Rising tanker and gas carrier traffic pushed total Strait of Hormuz transits to their highest weekly level since the collapse of the memorandum of understanding, despite weaker bulker activity. Preliminary data show 108 transits during August 17-23, up 27% week on week. Volumes remain well below...
www.lloydslistintelligence.com
 
searcher said:
Note: This a short vid in which Rachael Maddow brings up Heggie (and T's) lack of foresight in starting the war with Iran.

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Nothing would make me trust Petey, and The Donald, moar...than having that lying, deceitful, obnoxious dyke tell me they were wrong, mistaken, foolish, or whatever.

She/It has ZERO credibility with anyone who's willing to assess the messenger.
 
Quick, short read that makes a lot of sense, imo.

 
And it turns out Iran has decoy mines too....which means we spent a crapload of money to defuse shit that was never going to blow up anyway.
 
Is that really true? I don't mean the ships.

Recalling the Suez deliberate-blocking...there were, what, a dozen?...ships trapped; but crews rotated on and flew off. Ferry launches took fresh crewmen onboard and sent the guys who'd done the time, back home and to another assignment.

I expect that's being done here, also. I can't see it NOT being done; if they were literally left stranded, they'd get onboard a lifeboat (they're powered, these days) and just abandon their ship, maybe scuttle it.
 
Casey Jones said:
Is that really true? I don't mean the ships.
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Good question. Maritime Executive is a good source of information, but I decided to ask co-pilot.

Stranded Ships and Seafarers in the Persian Gulf Amid the Iran–U.S. Conflict​

The Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz have been effectively blockaded for months, trapping up to 20,000 seafarers on around 70–400 ships depending on the source The Guardian+2. The crisis began in February 2026 when the U.S.-led war on Iran escalated, and Iran’s naval and missile activity has made safe passage extremely risky The Guardian.

Current Situation​

  • 70 ships remain stranded in the Gulf, including 29 tankers, after earlier numbers of 160 tankers were reduced as some departed during a June ceasefire USNI News.
  • IMO and the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights report 6,000–11,000 seafarers stuck, with many on smaller vessels or unaccounted for Marine Insight+1.
  • The Strait of Hormuz has seen repeated attacks: recent incidents include a bulk carrier hit by a projectile, oil tanker near-misses, and confirmed strikes on civilian vessels The Guardian.
  • 17 seafarers have died since the conflict began, mostly from Iranian strikes The Guardian+1.

Humanitarian Crisis​

  • Some crews have been abandoned at sea by shipowners, left without food, water, fuel, medical care, or communication OHCHR.
  • Prolonged isolation and uncertainty have caused mental health breakdowns and ongoing fear of further attacks The Guardian+1.
  • The UN has called for consular assistance, essential supplies, and safe evacuation for all stranded seafarers OHCHR.

Political and Security Context​

  • Ceasefire agreements in April and June were short-lived, with Iran re-imposing restrictions shortly after The Guardian+1.
  • The IMO has urged coordinated action to restore freedom of navigation through the Strait Marine Insight.
  • International actors, including Denmark, France, and the UK, are reportedly working to reopen the Strait, but risks remain high nationalsecurityjournal.org.

Outlook​

While some ships have left during brief lulls, no permanent resolution has been reached. The situation remains volatile, with continued maritime threats and unresolved political disputes. For seafarers, the uncertainty about when they will be able to disembark or return home continues to be a major concern.

If you need to follow developments, watch for updates from the IMO, UN Human Rights Office, and maritime intelligence sources, as the Strait’s security and shipping lanes are central to global energy and supply chains.
 
Color me skeptical.

I don't trust AI and we've seen we cannot trust "official" outlets. TDS is ragingly infectious. This war was the move of an idiot, but equally idiotic are the demented attacks that, like thrown cow-pies, never stop coming from the controlled mediuh outlets.

Which is all of them.

I don't have contrary evidence; I just don't think it's logically possible. They obviously have ferries servicing those boats, restocking them - again, if they didn't, the crews would have abandoned the vessels long ago.

Is it hard to keep going that way? Surely. Are they isolated and not able to rotate crews, get supplies? That's not possible, and not imaginable. The men would have bailed, as I said.
 
Trump is so gutless, he allowed Israeli blackmail to get America involved, now he can't quit.
We need to leave.
 
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