Medical preps - natural defenses for the flu

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Since mutated flu strains are in the news again:
http://news.yahoo.com/deeply-concerned-mutant-bird-flu-041057122.html

I thought it would be appropriate to share this bit of research I found back when H1N1 was all the rage:
http://www.cytokinestorm.com/

Looks like Oil of Oregano might be helpful:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2233768


http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/05/prweb383231.htm
 
Outstanding.

For those who read Rawles, his site sports a contribuying MD who will do an e-interview and let you buy survival antibiotics as well.

The info you just provided may well save a life Bug. Thank you.
 
Good info, Bug.
I don't know if other Bugs agree, with respect to the flu, I would stay away from flu vaccines. There is just too much info out there that indicates that even the vaccines themselves are either tainted or tampered with.

Glad to see the Oil of Oregano on the list. Oil of O is some incredibly good stuff. It should be in everyone's medicine chest and bug out bag. It is probably one of the most useful natural medicines. The first time I had heard about it was several years ago on Rawles' website that Ancona mentions, survivalblog.com.

This is not the common oregano that one has in their spice cabinet. Rather Oil of Oregano is derived from the wild Mediterranean oregano plant. The active substance in Oil of O is carvacrol which is a natural phenol that contains powerful anti-microbial activity. It is anti-fungal, anti-viral and anti-bacterial.

It can be applied topically or ingested. Some people mix it in water, milk or orange juice, but I just put a drop or two under my tongue.

Here are a couple of good vendors:
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Another excellent natural health remedy is colloidal silver. We used to use this, which was very good,
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However off-the-shelf colloidal silver is expensive so we decided to start making it ourselves:
http://www.silverpuppy.com/
OR
http://www.atlasnova.com/
ALONG WITH THIS METER
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It is quite easy to generate very high quality colloidal silver yourself.


Also, a good way to remove heavy metals that accumulate in our bodies is with a cilantro pesto:

Cilantro Pesto
1 clove garlic
1/2 cup almonds, cashews, or other nuts
1 cup packed fresh cilantro leaves (and smaller stems)
2 tablespoons lemon juice (a professional chef recommends just one Tbl of lemon juice)
6 tablespoons olive oil
Sea Salt to taste


And lastly, another very good oil to have on hand is virgin unrefined coconut oil.
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This can be used for cooking, but I think its best use is as a skin moisturizer for hands, feet, scalp, face, etc.

I had been looking for something other than the commercial moisturizers that always seem to have lots of extra chemical in them.

Not only is the coconut oil a pure natural product, but IMHO it moisturized much better than any off-the-shelf moisturizer.

In addition, it is highly stable and if stored in a cool dark place, can have a shelf life of multiple years. Most other cooking oils have shelf lives of only about a year.
 
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There is also a connection with insufficient sunshine and the flu. People that get sunshine in the Winter seldom get flu in the Winter. Most people get plenty of sunshine the rest of the year, and the flu pretty much does not exist then.

Since I learned that, I make sure I get at least a half hour of sun every day. And I have not had the flu in years.
 
Outstanding.

For those who read Rawles, his site sports a contribuying MD who will do an e-interview and let you buy survival antibiotics as well.

The info you just provided may well save a life Bug. Thank you.

I can get meds from Dr. Bob?
 
Also - wash your hands, man! That's #1. #2 - don't be in crowds you have no control over so you can catch it in the first place.

I ran a small software shop here for many years. When all the people were guys who basically just came to work and went home, odd trip to the grocery store - we went years with no illnesses of any kind for any of us. We then hired on a local college student (who turned into a real superstar) but gosh, he was always bringing in some bug from the campus, which is nearly the ideal location to catch things - dense there, and people traveling to and from their remote homes a few times a year to pick up non-local bugs.

Like they say with nukes - don't be there with it goes off. Playing constant touchy-feely with the other monkey people is a sure way to catch things - you're constantly breathing the aerosols they produce and ingesting their dead skin as it flakes off with whatever else in it. And general good health goes a long way too - in most cases. The on-topic strain I understand is so devastating because it uses your immune system against you...

Dunno if this works for others, (could be one of those if you believe it it works things) but I've had to knowingly go in and work with the sick - and before I do, I take some real vitamin A (not beta carotene), some zinc, and some C. I never seem to catch what they've got. But I don't seem to get sick much anyway. Probably genes? I've never liked being in big crowds and tend to avoid them anyway, unless they are all "out there" and I'm up on the stage doing one of my other professions.

I do keep some antibiotics in my stash, have to refresh them from time to time as they get old. I'm luckily not allergic to any of them - but you should be careful...
 
From PMBug's clip:

"Cat’s Claw (Uncaria tomentosa)- Decreases the production of the cytokine TNF-a. Also boosts immune system. The number of white blood cells was significantly increased during treatment. No toxicity was noted.
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...arch&DB=pubmed) Active constituents can be found in the leaves, bark, vine, and roots. Water extraction from bark used."


Cat's Claw is super-respected in Peru, where it comes from. It is found from Bolivia to Venezuela and to Panama as well. There are other roots and barks that have traditional medicinal uses as well. Some of these are also found in the famed "Siete Raices" (Seven Roots) concoction, where those plants are macerated (soaked) in sugar cane liquor. We have Cat's Claw here at the house.

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Re essential oils, I read sometime back that grave robbers in the Middle Ages would rub their hands (etc.) in a mixture called "Thieves Oil", which was part clove oil, rosemary oil, cinnamon BARK (not leaf) oil and eucalyptus oil. This helped them prevent getting sick while grave-robbing. Many of these oils are well known for being very antiseptic.

One thing I now do when I have to fly is soak a hanky or paper a bit with my own mixture:

2 parts eucalyptus oil
1 part cinnamon bark oil

Rub a little on my mustache and put the rest in a pocket or above the top button of my shirt while on board. BOTH of those oils are serious microbe killers (of all types). That way if there viruses going around the plane, the oils may kill off a bunch of them as I breathe them in...
 
A virus isn't alive, so you can't kill it. It's just a fancy chemical that causes cells to replicate it (it's a program, not the whole computer) - it has to be in a cell, hijacking the cell's machinery to have even a semblance of life, and the only way to kill it is to kill the cell at that point.

Anything strong enough chemically to take a virus apart on the way in is probably going to be moderately bad for you...as it will have to disrupt the viral RNA or DNA (depending on which type virus it is) - you'd not want a DNA destroyer around you.
 
I was just reading about a guy who was fighting pneumonia, had been eating levaquin like tic-tacs, and had no response. His wife bought a nebulizer and somme colloidal silver solution, administered it for four days and cured the man. While this is certainly anecdotal in it's genesis, I think it is worth looking at twice. Silver has been used in medicine for centuries, yet modern pharma wants to have it outlawed at worst, and at least regulated. Get a generator while you still can.
 
Awesome stuff here.

Learnt over 30 years ago that the doctors have not always got the tools to fix and those they have, are not really meant to fix, only maintain a reduced effect, expensively.

There really are so many natural remedies, its impossible to know where to start.

I get Dr Mercola's daily newsletter. Ok its often a scare with a solution that $ benefits him but its also a great way to discover so many free, natural ways to health and he is rabidly against anyone having a flu shot .

http://www.drmercola.com/

And I only need a small nudge ( like gold to $1700 ) and I will purchase a blood doser that also makes colloidal silver from -

http://www.sota.com/

Home grown food and the best quality fresh water you can source, is what we are designed to run on. Its really that simple.

Be Well
 
Take a look at what big pharma is trying to get outlawed (colloidal silver and a host of other natural remedies),and make sure to get those into your medicine chest.

In fact this principle translates well into other areas too. In many occasions, just listen to what the bigtime media is telling you to do, and do the opposite.
 
I listen to these guys on the radio. They're pro western-med, but have quite a lot of info on home remedies that actually work.

http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/

I think having your mind right is just as important as the other stuff, maybe more so. But then, I'm the son of a research psychologist who proved that "faith healing" really works. But her report and subsequent book more or less peed off almost everyone, because - you didn't have to be Christian, and in fact the more meditative Buddhists did better...and you didn't need psychology or western medicine so much as discipline and attitude, and well, you can imagine - it was quite a crap storm since almost no ox was left un-gored in it. But it works!
 

Colloidal Silver! the stuff is magic. i have used it on an injured dog that had a festering wound, and it was clear and healing in 2 days.
 

Yup the power of ego-less 'intention' is truly amazing.
Waste of time arguing with anyone about it though.

And another really powerful demonstration of where healing comes from, is the power of placebo .....

generally trotted out by those desperate to show that homeopathy cant possibly work ( cos theres nothing there ) but fortunately totally ignored by the animals, who respond so well when treated homeopathically.

Our vet was so impressed by what we did with an old ewe, that he was confident wouldnt make the night after producing a lovely set of triplets, that he signed up his whole practise to go on a course.
 

As sunshine is needed for the body to process Vitamin D, consider also increasing your D intake during the flu season. Vitamin D is an anti flu pro immune system fuel.

98% of Americans are Vitamin D deficient.
 


I was a skeptic.

Then burned my hand well, and burns are my least favorite pain. Very difficult to turn off the pain message, for me.
I do not mind pain, as it is only a message for attention and care. Pain messages are as easy to master as laughs, cries, or a warm smile feeling one CHOOSES to feel.

Was offered a homeopathic remedy for burns... and holy shite!
In 20 seconds the pain was gone, along with apprehension.
I believe it was Hypericum.
For those of you who physically work/exercise; bellis perennis works wonders on deep tissue ache.
 
dragonfly said -
As sunshine is needed for the body to process Vitamin D, consider also increasing your D intake during the flu season. Vitamin D is an anti flu pro immune system fuel.




Gotta be D3 though.

I take it as drops this time of year.

Possible to have too much acording to Dr Mercola who recommends testing for D3 levels.

We test using kinesiology or muscle testing, which a surprising number of people use when food shopping. Weak = dont consume. Strong = good shit man.
 
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Pain messages are as easy to master as laughs, cries, or a warm smile feeling one CHOOSES to feel.

Exactly right.

a few years ago i held off a nasty tooth abcess for a couple of days whilst waiting for an appointment, simply by hanging onto the thought 'I FEEL NO PAIN'

eventually realised that even this holds negative conotations and now simply use I FEEL GOOD.

And good that another skeptic has discovered an example of what big pharma doesnt want you to know.
 
Crataegus monogyna (common hawthorn berry)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_hawthorn


A good friend of mine was fairly close to the edge, after a big heart op. He was on lots of different meds simultaneously, was in poor health for some time afterwards. His wife tried to get him off the meds but he wasn't having any of it. He started deteriorating. Eventually she binned the meds (except for one - it was unavoidable in this case) and put him on a course of hawthorn, made by skimming the oil from boiled berries and administered in tiny amounts each day.

That was 15 years ago. He had recovered near fully within a 8 months of the changes and never resumed the meds.

(This is a grossly simplified version of the story - there were specific things wrong with his heart, relating to damaged nerves and beat coordination after surgery which is pretty hard to repair. The meds were regulating this in various ways, but not repairing anything. The hawthorn seems to be effective at encouraging actual self-repair in the muscle/nerve interface in the heart.)

Again its dangerous if used carelessly but there's a long history of it being used to treat this sort of thing.


Oil of buckthorn (or 'sea buckthorn') - which is a kind of orange berry bush sometimes found near beaches - is very useful for mucous membrane problems, including stomach lining (ulcers, erosion etc).

I could list a bunch of others which I have encountered (or have had forced upon me! but the two above are worth a mention.
 
Everything we need to be well, is given to us by nature.

Then along come the scientists to distill out ( and patent !!!) what they think is the active ingredient so it can be synthesised and sold for profit.

We do well to learn / re learn what is available and avoid big pharma / big ags offerings.
 
With all due and sincere respect, while Mercola has some great and very valid solutions, he can and does offer dangerous solutions to problems that should be left to modern technical medicine. Other than that, I do like what he offers regarding natural and holistic medicines.
 
while Mercola has some great and very valid solutions, he can and does offer dangerous solutions to problems that should be left to modern technical medicine.


Im curious Ancona ?

and im open minded about modern technical medicine ..............
 
Cancer for one instance. Radio tactic therapy for brain tumors comes immediately to mind, because out bookkeeper had/has brain tum ors that were helped/healed with something called focal beam radiation therapy. Brain tumors cannot be cured ocmpletely with fundoscopic invasion.
 

Gamma knife surgery? It has it's potential downsides too.
 
gut health is THE best defense. the trillions of bacteria in your intestines are a God given miracle

our immune system identifies invader, then builds it's own bioweapons to deal with it. it then stores the recipe for taking out that invader, should it encounter it again. it is mind boggling how many recipes the system has stored and uses them constantly.

the bioweapons that the (redacted) unleashed on us were built to fool the immune system. the weapons were moderately effective -- their trick caused the immune system to initially build the wrong defense bioweapons. but this was only temporary, as the system, after the delay, figured out the (redacteds') trick and properly destroyed their lab created bioweapons. that delay is why so many immune-weak people died.

many lives were saved by doctors not going by the book. they gave their patients drugs to suppress the initial, and wrong, immune response. this gave the immune system valuable time to manufacture the correct response to kill off the attackers. steroid/prednisone was one popular drug that was used. our amazing immune system just needed a little more time to figure out what the (redacted) did

supplements do help, as does sunshine and exercise - as they give this awe-inspiring system raw materials and cleansing, allowing it to do it's amazing work

build your immunity through gut health

1. eat the bugs
2. feed the bugs
3. protect the bugs

knowing how the system works makes a complete mockery of how the (redacted) lie and say that people/children are getting sick/hospitalized because of covid lockdowns, etc. this is patently false -- yet the (redacted) spew this crap every day in the (redacted) media
 
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I picked up a respiratory virus from my granddaughter this week. I started extra C, D and zinc once I was exposed. When I work up with a sore throat I started some herbals. Andrographis, Wormwood, Turmeric, oil of oregano and an antiviral called monolaurin. One thing I leaned form all our covid research was many herbals fight not only covid but other viruses too. I only had one bad day with this virus. I was tired and had a fever and sore throat and by the second day it started reversing. Also like Cheka said it all starts in the gut. That has to be worked on full time.
 


more receptors in the gut than the brain

what is redacted?….huh?
 
I'd really just prefer folks be respectful to everyone and no one use epithets/slurs so there is no need for any substitutions or lessons about the Golden Rule.
 
I would add Quercetin as an ionophore to help zinc into your cells. I take it twice a day anyway, but only add zinc if I feel like I am getting sick since zinc inhibits copper absorption if over used.

Another thing to consider for us older (over 60) folks is cystanche, an herb. it helps to stave off the naive immune cell decline that hits after 60. Roundworm studies show an 8% increase in lifespan. Again, I take it twice a day.
 
Do we have an 'Herbal Remedies' thread yet?
 
Outstanding.

For those who read Rawles, his site sports a contribuying MD who will do an e-interview and let you buy survival antibiotics as well.

The info you just provided may well save a life Bug. Thank you.

That post is from over 10 years ago. It would be interesting to know the name of that doctor and his/her experience during the "pandemic" and to date. Since off label use of any prescription drug was a no-no during the pandemic and in our current era, that doctor probably has been sanctioned (if he offered help during the pandemic). Any mention of his name or his treatments will probably be moved to the "Hot Takes" forum as the forum owner doesn't want the public to see such misinformation (if indeed, said doctor offered help to anyone during the pandemic).

(never mind that off label use of drugs has been standard practice for decades.... it's verboten nowadays)

The times, they are a changin'

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the problem ive had with the china flu 1 and now 2 is the nausea

both times i could not even hold water down let alone a bunch of pills

i suppose if i took an anti nausea meds it may help
 
the problem ive had with the china flu 1 and now 2 is the nausea

both times i could not even hold water down let alone a bunch of pills

i suppose if i took an anti nausea meds it may help
Interesting how people are affected differently. My big issue with Covid was that I couldn’t get anything down. Wanted to eat. Knew I needed hood nutrition. Tried hard to eat. Just found it almost impossible to get anything down my throat. Dunno why, the body just wouldn’t let it go down. Lost a lot of weight.
 
that's one of their so-called strains. the stomach disturbing strain went through my parts in novemeber/early dec
 
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